Are these good questions for Liberals and Muslims?
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1) if banning religions is bad why do 16 Muslim countries ban Israelis because of their religion? 2) if Islam is culturally compatible with the west, why do 11 Muslim countries still execute gay people? 3) if Islam is culturally compatible with the west, why do Muslims in the UK think homosexuality should be criminalized? 4) if Islam is culturally compatible with the west, why do supposedly modern countries like the United Arab Emirates block transgender people from entering the country? 5) if Islam is culturally compatible with the west, why do they something literally called the rape game? 6) why do you fall to speak out against Islamic terrorism, but have mass protests when someone draws a cartoon our Mohammed? 7) why do you complain about everyone blaming all Muslims for radical Islamic terrorists, then shout down and intimidate ex-Muslims who speak out against radical Islamic terrorism? 8) why do you say that all of Islam shouldn't be collectively blamed for terrorism, then collectively blame all westerners for what the actions of our governments in Muslim countries? 9) why do you insist Islam is a religion of peace then threaten to kill me when I say it isn't? 10) if Islam is a religion of peace, shy did the Koran contain 109 passages about waging war against non believers? 11) if Islam is a religion of peace, why do police continuously find caches of weapons inside mosques across Europe? 12) if Islam is a religion of peace, why do Muslims support suicide bombings? 13) if Islam is a religion of peace, why is there no popular Muslim peace movement? 14) if Islam is a religion of peace, why do I routinely receive messages from Muslims who agree with me but are too afraid to speak out because they may be killed? 15) if terrorism is a response to western foreign policy, why are the majority of victims Muslim? 16) why do you constantly invoke the crusades (a 600 year old defensive war) to make apologies for modern day terrorism? 17) why do you complain about France banning the burqini when if women from western countries came to Islamic countries wearing what they wanted to wear they would be attached and imprisoned? 18) why do you try to shout down criticisms of Islam by calling it racist when Islam isn't a race? 19) why is it that after every terrorists attack your primary goal is to prevent backlash against Muslims? For insurance, if a far right troll killed a Muslim should our primary goal be to prevent backlash against fat right trolls? 20) if the west is so selfish for not taking in enough Syrian refugees, why have the 5 wealthiest Muslim nations taken in virtually no Syrian refugees? 21) if the west is so evil, oppressive, and islamaphobic, why do 50 million of you live here? Side: Good questions
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Come now Con. Why would I go through a giant diatribe of 20+ questions that wouldn't fit on the page when here is a person summing it up in a few minutes. You are here all of the time, so you have time to watch it. Besides, Cartman provided the questions on the other side in written form. Do you care to address said questions? Side: Not good questions
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I will address every question if someone takes the time to transcribe them. I think there is a lot of self righteous fingerpointing at atocities committed by muslims and demonizing of muslims so the public will support more military involvement in foreign countries. I dont aim to defend violent behavior of any sort but with the chorus of anti-muslim sentiment in the west I hope to take the unpopular approach and encourage collective self criticism over fingerpointing and demonizing other groups. Side: Not good questions
1) if banning religions is bad why do 16 Muslim countries ban Israelis because of their religion? 2) if Islam is culturally compatible with the west, why do 11 Muslim countries still execute gay people? 3) if Islam is culturally compatible with the west, why do Muslims in the UK think homosexuality should be criminalized? 4) if Islam is culturally compatible with the west, why do supposedly modern countries like the United Arab Emirates block transgender people from entering the country? 5) if Islam is culturally compatible with the west, why do they something literally called the rape game? 6) why do you fall to speak out against Islamic terrorism, but have mass protests when someone draws a cartoon our Mohammed? 7) why do you complain about everyone blaming all Muslims for radical Islamic terrorists, then shout down and intimidate ex-Muslims who speak out against radical Islamic terrorism? 8) why do you say that all of Islam shouldn't be collectively blamed for terrorism, then collectively blame all westerners for what the actions of our governments in Muslim countries? 9) why do you insist Islam is a religion of peace then threaten to kill me when I say it isn't? 10) if Islam is a religion of peace, shy did the Koran contain 109 passages about waging war against non believers? 11) if Islam is a religion of peace, why do police continuously find caches of weapons inside mosques across Europe? 12) if Islam is a religion of peace, why do Muslims support suicide bombings? 13) if Islam is a religion of peace, why is there no popular Muslim peace movement? 14) if Islam is a religion of peace, why do I routinely receive messages from Muslims who agree with me but are too afraid to speak out because they may be killed? 15) if terrorism is a response to western foreign policy, why are the majority of victims Muslim? 16) why do you constantly invoke the crusades (a 600 year old defensive war) to make apologies for modern day terrorism? 17) why do you complain about France banning the burqini when if women from western countries came to Islamic countries wearing what they wanted to wear they would be attached and imprisoned? 18) why do you try to shout down criticisms of Islam by calling it racist when Islam isn't a race? 19) why is it that after every terrorists attack your primary goal is to prevent backlash against Muslims? For insurance, if a far right troll killed a Muslim should our primary goal be to prevent backlash against fat right trolls? 20) if the west is so selfish for not taking in enough Syrian refugees, why have the 5 wealthiest Muslim nations taken in virtually no Syrian refugees? 21) if the west is so evil, oppressive, and islamaphobic, why do 50 million of you live here? Side: Not good questions
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Most everything you just said was true and made good sense. Now I will ask you this simple question. Why whenever I or others on this site bring up the exact same points concerning the biased rhetoric from the Left towards Muslims, do you ALWAYS find fault rather than agreeing with the point being made? You constantly do to us what you just described this person is doing for Muslims. This is why you get banned. No matter what we say, you will find fault. We have mirrored many of your points in your post, but still you find fault! You live your life as a devil's advocate. You spend your life looking for something to refute rather than ever supporting arguments you actually agree with. Please spare us the ludicrous excuse that this is a debate site, and therefore we are suppose to find fault. A debate site is suppose to express honesty whereby we agree or disagree depending on what is said. Side: Good questions
1) if banning religions is bad why do 16 Muslim countries ban Israelis because of their religion? Because they buy in to the divisive "our cultures are fundamentally jncompatible" rhetoric so many celebrities (like Paul Joseph Watson) are spewing. 2) if Islam is culturally compatible with the west, why do 11 Muslim countries still execute gay people? because compatibility is not a black and white issue. Two cultures having serious differences to work out doesn't mean they are utterly incompatible 3) if Islam is culturally compatible with the west, why do Muslims in the UK think homosexuality should be criminalized? because not all segments of Muslim society are as readily compatible with western culture as others. 4) if Islam is culturally compatible with the west, why do supposedly modern countries like the United Arab Emirates block transgender people from entering the country? because even though adjustments often take a long time, the claim of incompatibility assumes they can't or won't happen 5) if Islam is culturally compatible with the west, why do they something literally called the rape game? In the west we call the practice "gang rape" or "sexual abuse that occurs in crowds". 6) why do you fall to speak out against Islamic terrorism, but have mass protests when someone draws a cartoon our Mohammed I think Muslims mistakenly understand "Islamic terrorism" as a neccesary defensive response since facing our military directly would surely be a fatal tactical mistake. As to the SEGMENTS of the Muslim population that feel like violent responses to cartoons and causing a ruckus in the streets actually defends Islam, They're as misguided as our foreign policy makers who sell bombing campaigns as "defensive measures" that make us safer. 7) why do you complain about everyone blaming all Muslims for radical Islamic terrorists, then shout down and intimidate ex-Muslims who speak out against radical Islamic terrorism? Stereotyping Muslims (or any cultural group) according to the worst of those who identify as such, is demonization 101. The problem of violent extremism can be addressed without cultural fingerpointing. The dominant ideologies within both cultures are busy justifying violence using "demonization 101" we clearly, should not support this There is no use shouting down people who are clueless of their role in cultivating ill will, but cultivating ill will between cultural groups should be vigorously and unequivocally resisted, not at the expense of free speech, but by decent people being intolerant of indecency which decent people MUST by definition do. 8) why do you say that all of Islam shouldn't be collectively blamed for terrorism, then collectively blame all westerners for what the actions of our governments in Muslim countries? People have a problem not recognizing their hypocrisy. 9) why do you insist Islam is a religion of peace then threaten to kill me when I say it isn't? To say "Islam is not a religion of peace" isnt as obviously stupid as saying "no true muslims are peaceful" You shouldn't be threatened or killed for saying it, but you shouldn't be left unchallenged either. 10) if Islam is a religion of peace, shy did the Koran contain 109 passages about waging war against non believers? Because despite these texts most muslims are peaceful, bloody violent histories in the name of religious self righteousness are shared on both sides. Ask yourself why you insist on defining Islam by its worst segments. better to consider the most admirable segments of muslim culture who in light of our shared violent history have embraced a nonviolent philosophy as the standard bearers of what should be considered "true islam" than to look to the most violent segments to define it 11) if Islam is a religion of peace, why do police continuously find caches of weapons inside mosques across Europe? Muslims see themselves as under attack. We could define the problem as "Violent Extremism" and ally with muslim cultures fighting it but instead these dipshit pundits here in the west insist that we replace "Violent" with "Islamic". They want us to view our cultures as fundamentally incompatible, nevermind that peceful Muslims have lived beside us quite compatibly for a long time...! 12) if Islam is a religion of peace, why do Muslims support suicide bombings? those that do (I have never met any that do.) Have been mislead by the worst representatives of Islam The ones, that, should this "cultural incompatibility" rhetoric prevail, will define Islam 13) if Islam is a religion of peace, why is there no popular Muslim peace movement? If the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community Isn't popular enough for consideration...how large does it have to be? 14) if Islam is a religion of peace, why do I routinely receive messages from Muslims who agree with me but are too afraid to speak out because they may be killed? Wait..Those couldn't really be Muslims. If they were, they would be pro-violence. Remember how you insist Islam is fundamentally violent (aka "not a religion of peace) 15) if terrorism is a response to western foreign policy, why are the majority of victims Muslim? Because violence corrupts so thoroughly 16) why do you constantly invoke the crusades (a 600 year old defensive war) to make apologies for modern day terrorism? Isn't it rotten when a group is so self righteous that they think it's their duty to violently force the world to fit their culture's image of righteousness.. This is the crusader spirit, and more power to those who find creative and non-violent ways to resist it. 17) why do you complain about France banning the burqini when if women from western countries came to Islamic countries wearing what they wanted to wear they would be attached and imprisoned? Because many of those seeing middle eastern dress laws as overly restrictive, still notice when a country like France makes overly restrictive dress laws 18) why do you try to shout down criticisms of Islam by calling it racist when Islam isn't a race? It's not a race, but it is a group of people. People claiming to criticize Islam are taking the worst, out of those identifying as Islamic, and holding them up as definitive of the culture generally. It's religious bigotry, its not racism but it's just as bad. 19) why is it that after every terrorists attack your primary goal is to prevent backlash against Muslims? For insurance, if a far right troll killed a Muslim should our primary goal be to prevent backlash against fat right trolls? Pardon my sarcasm, but that's a really well thought out question. 20) if the west is so selfish for not taking in enough Syrian refugees, why have the 5 wealthiest Muslim nations taken in virtually no Syrian refugees? They are WORSE THAN US !! If you take nothing else away from the Muslim demonization campaign, remember the message..we have moral high ground. They are fundamentally violent so we should stop with all the politically correct nonsense and accept that the best way to address our cultural differences is by making our attacks more devastatingly violent. -sarcasm 21) if the west is so evil, oppressive, and islamaphobic, why do 50 million of you live here? The west hasn't historically been as islamophobic as it is today and badmouthing muslims is becoming more and more acceptable. Calling their faith incompatible with our culture despite the many that live peacefully among us is the kind of ignorance is that is becoming a new norm Side: Not good questions
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