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Prolife. Prochoice.
Debate Score:83
Arguments:109
Total Votes:85
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 Prolife. (27)
 
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Are you prolife or prochoice?

I am prolife due to science, not religion.

Prolife.

Side Score: 29
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Prochoice.

Side Score: 54
1 point

Have you ever noticed how the ''Pro-choicers''have already been born? I wonder how they would have liked to have been flushed down into the sewers as embryos.

Side: Prolife.
3 points

They wouldn't like or dislike it. That "argument" is made all the time, and is always nonsensical.

Side: Prochoice.
Cuaroc(8829) Disputed
1 point

ah yes because pro-choice people encourage everyone that is pregnant to get abortions.

Side: Prochoice.
1 point

Have you noticed how all the Pro-lifers are, for the most part, all male and will never have a personal need for abortion?

Side: Prochoice.
Sitar(3680) Disputed
1 point

Women can be prolife too. Feminists For Life would disagree with you.

Side: Prolife.
1 point

I have noticed that too. I believe that abortion is the worst form of age discrimination.

Side: Prolife.
GenericName(3430) Clarified
1 point

Out of curiosity, do you believe that sentience has any importance on this topic?

Side: Prolife.
1 point

When you kill someone, why is killing them wrong? What makes the act of murder so appalling and one of the worst crimes one can commit? The answer is simple.

When you kill someone, you aren't just denying them that point in their lives, you are denying them a future. You're taking their lives and consciously cutting it off immediately.

If you understand this, you will understand how abortion is morally wrong. You can hide behind the definition of life, or the difference between a zygote, fetus, and baby, but you can't hide behind the basic reason why murder is wrong, and how this applies to someone before and after birth.

An abortion should only occur when it's the life of the mother in question and when there are no alternatives. When such a situation happens, the child should be given every opportunity possible to survive the ordeal just as we do for the mother.

Here is an example of someone who survived an abortion attempt, was abandoned by her mother, and is here to tell the tale. Abortion is never good, folks, not even in response to a rape.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBB8BPZ4R2g

Side: Prolife.
Cartman(18192) Disputed
1 point

If you understand this, you will understand how abortion is morally wrong.

A law will not make anyone understand that principle, so you have failed.

Side: Prochoice.
0 points

Abortion is the worst form of age discrimination. .

Side: Prolife.
Nomoturtle(857) Disputed
4 points

i think so too. but it is more than that. the woman should be able to choose whether she will spend the next 20 years and about 200,000 dollars raising children she may or may not even be responsible for conceiving. birth is an arbitrary milestone. the real matter is sentience (ignoring the potential to be human) and aborting the fetus is better than killing the child. in addition to this the fetus is dependant on the mother and (ignoring the potential to be human) the fetus is little more than a parasite. then there is the scenario where the child is abandoned by the parents. there aren't enough families to take up kids, otherwise, there would be far fewer abortions.

Side: Prochoice.
Cuaroc(8829) Clarified
3 points

shame she won't even read this argument.

Side: Prolife.
Sitar(3680) Disputed
1 point

If a woman does not want a baby, she needs to use contraception. Abortion kills a living child. The child is not part of the mother's body. What about the child's right to choose?

Side: Prolife.
Cuaroc(8829) Clarified
2 points

Consent to sex is not consent to child bearing.

Sound familiar? It should you wrote it.

Side: Prolife.
3 points

I think the pro life movement is the wrong way top reduce abortions.

Side: Prochoice.
VecVeltro(412) Clarified
1 point

Why is it wrong? In what way has does a ban on abortions fail to reduce abortions?

Side: Prolife.
1 point

Banning alcohol didn't get rid of alcohol.

I don't think banning something helps express why the thing is being banned. I think education add to why abortions are wrong and how to avoid situations that end in abortions helps explain the why.

Side: Prochoice.
JustIgnoreMe(4290) Clarified
1 point

"Highly restrictive abortion laws are not associated with lower abortion rates."

ref

Side: Prolife.
1 point

If abortions are banned many people would still have them it would just occur on some backstreet meaning they would not be safe. It is better people are just allowed to have them safely.

Side: Prolife.
3 points

are you going to start re-posting all your debates now?

Side: Prochoice.
2 points

I dislike the division of this debate into "prolife" and "prochoice" because neither describes my perspective. I am an advocate of legalized abortions consequent to a utilitarian consideration of the inefficacy of abortion prohibition laws. I think the important question is not choice or life, but the minimization of unwanted pregnancies. When we debate abortion we are entertaining the issue far too late in the game, which is why abortion prohibition is largely ineffectual and just pushes most women off the medical grid for their abortions.

The most effective way to reduce abortions is not to ban them, but to prevent them from occurring in the first place. This means addressing more difficult issues such as poverty, education, access to family planning resources, human trafficking, etc. Too many people have become distracted by the successful bipartisan campaign to distract voters from the deeper issues in our society by pitting them against each other on a highly polarizing and inevitably dead-locked issue. Way to go sheeple, way to go.

Side: Prochoice.

It's same it's pro-choice a woman has the right to choose whether or not to go for it;sometimes on the doc's consult she goes for it being fully aware of the risks involved in not going for abortion

Side: Prochoice.
1 point

Stop arguing about this! It's none of anybody's business what a woman chooses to do, it is 100% their choice what they decide and you need to respect it.

Side: Prochoice.
Jace(5222) Clarified
1 point

One question only: Why?

Side: Prolife.
GraniteHope(6) Clarified
1 point

So, if a woman wants to murder someone, that should be her choice?

Side: Prolife.

I think even if you don't think abortions should happen, you should be pro-choice, for the simple far that it is impossible to get rid of abortions completely. Pro-choice simply means the option should be available, which means the options will (hopefully) be safely available.

If you make abortions illegal, women will still get abortions. They will simply get them in more dangerous circumstances, endangering more lives than if abortions were legal.

Side: Prochoice.
VecVeltro(412) Disputed
1 point

You fundamentally do not understand the pro-life position. If you did, you would not make such an argument.

For pro-lifers, the unborn is a human being with the right to life. To them, abortion constitutes murder. What you're essentially saying is that ''Well, people (mothers) are going to murder others (unborn) anyway. So, we might as well make sure that at least the murderer doesn't get hurt.''

There is nothing wrong about making murder more difficult and dangerous for the perpetrator. In fact, it is a very good deterrent.

Side: Prolife.
Cartman(18192) Disputed
1 point

There is nothing wrong about making murder more difficult and dangerous for the perpetrator. In fact, it is a very good deterrent.

It isn't a deterrent. That's what he is saying.

Side: Prochoice.

The embryo/fetus is a parasite. If something is inside your body, attached to it and feeding off it then you have a right to remove it. It is your body after all.

Side: Prochoice.
1 point

I am newly prochoice. I believe that life begins when the baby has brainwaves..

Side: Prochoice.
1 point

I am newly prochoice. I believe that life begins when the baby has brainwaves..

Great! Why do you believe this?

Side: Prolife.
1 point

Thank you for your support. I believe that life begins when the fetus has brainwaves. Scientifically, brainwaves are how you tell if someone is alive. Brainwaves stop when someone dies.

Side: Prolife.
Cartman(18192) Disputed
1 point

Do you think there should be a law banning abortion after brainwaves are detected?

Side: Prolife.
1 point

Yes with the exception of the life of the mother or if the baby will die anyway.

Side: Prolife.

Does a woman have the right to an abortion under the U.S. Constitution? If someone is a strict constructionist who interprets the Constitution word for word, the sanction for abortion is given under the Fourteenth Amendment.

The Fourteenth Amendment of our U.S. Constitution defines a citizen “a citizen” at birth. If a woman is carrying a fetus in the womb, the U.S. Constitution does not designate the fetus as “a citizen.” It would take an amendment to the U.S. Constitution to declare a fetus a citizen. You have to be born in order to be recognized as a citizen. Therefore, a woman does have the right to choose. A fetus inside the womb is not designated as a citizen according to the U.S. Constitution so by default is not entitled to life, liberty, or prosperity. You have to be born in order to be endowed with those privileges. To conclude, neither the Federal government nor any of the States can deny a woman the right to choose.

If abortion is murder, abortion would have been terminated years ago due to the cruel and unusual punishment clause under the Eighth Amendment. Again, proof that a fetus is not recognized as a citizen of the United States of America.

Side: Prochoice.