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Atheism is Islam Atheism is not Islam
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Atheism Islam, two sides of same coin

Atheism and Islam are conjoined twins, and I have made a facebook page to prove it.

https://www.facebook.com/Atheism-The-Devils-Religion-346260492436827/

Atheism is Islam

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Atheism is not Islam

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Atheism AND Islam are both non-belief in Jesus Christ (unto Salvation) they BOTH deposit the believer (in Atheism and/or Islam) in the same place ..... eternal torment and destruction .... Jesus: the ONLY Savior of the World .... http://dadmansabode.com/b/23/230210.mp3

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Iacov(68) Disputed
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So your argument is that because they are not Christianity then they are two sides of the same coin. You're gonna need a bigger coin.

Side: Atheism is not Islam
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Much of Christianity is on the coin. Jesus warned about enemies within the church more than any other enemy.

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dadman(1441) Disputed
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BOTH sides of that coin headed for Hell ........

is the one who makes the bigger splat deader than the not so as big as a splat ??

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Iacov(68) Clarified
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So I can't seem to open the link care to tell me generally what is says?

Side: Atheism is Islam
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Atheism and Islam share symbols and are united politically in the West. They also share the same enemy. Christ. It kills the "anti-religion" theme of Atheism. It kills the "We deal in reality and reason" claim of Atheism. It kills the liberal "defense of women, lgbt's, etc" as is a prominent claim of Atheism. Thus, seeing the alliance is illogical, it's fair to say the alliance must be supernatural, or the Atheist claim of intellectual superiority is simply a lie. And... Atheistic Satanists and Witches practice self mutilation just like Muslims.

http://godfatherpolitics.com/10-highest-iqs-least-8-theists-least-6-christians/

Side: Atheism is Islam
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Basically you've defined everything that is not Christianity as being of the same coin. So everything in the world, other than Christianity itself, is the same thing.

It would be naive if it weren't simply so stupid.

Side: Atheism is not Islam
NowASaint(1068) Clarified
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You're on the right track here, though you probably don't want to admit it.

All religions and philosophies like your own, are attempts to be self-justified, trying to keep yourself out of Hell. What God did for you in Jesus Christ is His offer to justify your life in that His blood was shed to cover your sins so that in His resurrection He justifies those who come to Him seeking mercy and receive Him as He is, the Lord God the Only Savior.

It's what you do VS what God did for you. You are going your own way to death while God made the way for you to be saved. Jesus Christ is all about what God did for mankind. All religions, including atheism, are about what mankind can do for themselves which adds up to nothing but death.

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Cartman(17749) Disputed
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All religions and philosophies like your own, are attempts to be self-justified

Right, including Christianity.

trying to keep yourself out of Hell

That's Christianity.

What God did for you in Jesus Christ is His offer to justify your life in that His blood was shed to cover your sins so that in His resurrection He justifies those who come to Him seeking mercy and receive Him as He is, the Lord God the Only Savior.

You are describing self justification that you implied was bad.

Jesus Christ is all about what God did for mankind.

Yes, but Christianity hasn't been about Jesus for centuries.

All religions, including atheism, are about what mankind can do for themselves which adds up to nothing but death.

Christianity is a religion.

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It would be stupid if they didn't all share strong traits and stand united against Christianity in a united front politically in the West.

https://www.facebook.com/Atheism-The-Devils-Religion-346260492436827/

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Atheism: disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods.

Islam: the religion of the Muslims, a monotheistic faith regarded as revealed through Muhammad as the Prophet of Allah.

Given these definitions I conclude that Atheism is not Islam.

Side: Atheism is not Islam
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"RELIGION"

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/religion

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: a personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and practices

3

archaic : scrupulous conformity : conscientiousness

4

: a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith

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Cartman(17749) Disputed
2 points

None of those fit atheism.

Side: Atheism is not Islam
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Now you'll have to explain sharing symbols and uniting politically with them when it isn't logical. Is it........ supernatural?

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jeffreyone(794) Clarified
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Actions speak louder than words.

The definition of atheism is different from the conducts of people who categorize themselves as such.

Per definition, then there are no atheists on CD as far as i know.

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Cartman(17749) Disputed
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Right here.

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I'm an Atheist. There is little I like about Islam (or for that matter, Christianity). I consider THEM "two sides of the same coin"! The two sides that have, for centuries, killed millions "in the name of their "god"! Atheists as a "group" have not done this ... because they have no "god" to do it FOR! A few radicals (we have THEM in ANY group including Muslims, Christians AND Atheists), but, like the radical conservatives of todays America, they have to build their strength by taking over the thoughts of the masses. Religions already have the masses that are easily swayed. Tell them GOD wants them to kill and they'll, as Blaise Pascal said, "....commit evil so fully and joyfully [with religious conviction]"! Christianity/Islam ... flip the coin!

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dadman(1441) Disputed
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Atheists as a "group" have not done this .... um, some education for you

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When Christopher Hitchens observes that .. “Religion is violent .. irrational .. intolerant .. allied to racism and tribalism and bigotry .. invested in ignorance and hostile to free inquiry .. contemptuous of women and coercive toward children" .. he is both right and wrong . . . . . Hitchens is right because humankind is sinful and selfish .. Indeed .. I believe it was G.K. Chesterton who said that the one Christian doctrine that was demonstrably provable .. even to casual observers .. was the sinfulness and depravity of man .. Thus .. human expressions of the religious impulse will inevitably produce some religious practices and beliefs that would fit Hitchens’ rather grim description . . . . Human history is replete with such flawed expressions of religious faith

However . . this would be true of all secular philosophies and ideologies as well .. Three of the most heinous and barbaric ideologies .. which produced the greatest cruelties and violations of humanity in the 20th century .. were fascism .. Nazism and communism . . . . all secular

Hitchens is wrong in that he condemns all religious expression to the category of such violent and negative expressions . . . Many of the noblest expressions of humanity throughout the centuries have been performed in the name of religion . . . One thinks of William Wilberforce and his long campaign to end the slave trade in the British Empire . . . Both the British and American abolitionist movements were founded .. nurtured .. financed and led to victory against the horrific evil of slavery by people who were most often inspired and motivated by deep religious conviction

The great social reform movements of the last half of the 19th and the first half of the 20th century ( child labor reform .. etc ) were often led by people of deep religious faith .. Protestant and Catholic

And of course .. in the lifetime of many of us who were born in the last half of the 20th century .. the most successful and greatest reform movement was the civil rights revolution .. led by a Baptist minister .. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr .. who often said that the movement and the faith that inspired it could not be separated . . . As many will remember .. the civil rights revolution was supported by and led to victory in large part because of the leadership of clergy .. black and white ............ Dr Richard Land

Side: Atheism is Islam
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Secular communism/fascism is the number one mass murderer, religion is number two proving only one thing: It is the evil in the hearts of men abusing power.

When an atheist claims atheism is good, they are obviously self-deluded and not likely to listen to any reasonable challenge to their world and life view.

I think Adolfi is one of those so closed minded they will never see a ray of hope in the gospel. I sure would like to be proven wrong about that but I doubt it will happen

Side: Atheism is Islam
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Atheism is bigoted, intolerant, misogynistic, etc.

https://www.facebook.com/Atheism-The-Devils-Religion-346260492436827/

Side: Atheism is not Islam
1 point

Actually Atheism has more in common with Islam than Christianity.

https://www.facebook.com/Atheism-The-Devils-Religion-346260492436827/

Side: Atheism is Islam
AveSatanas(4099) Disputed
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It has nothing in common with either of those things. Absolutely nothing. It is the polar opposite of both those things.

Side: Atheism is not Islam
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Mohammedans are commanded to kill or enslave atheists; they are not the same though they are both religious attempts of self-justification. The atheist insists he is justified to exist outside of Hell simply because he did not ask to exist and therefore believes God does not have the right to leave them frying like an eternal sausage in Hell. The Muslim believes he is justified to exist outside of Hell by causing God to owe them something based on what they do.

Islam has a god which is an idol, atheism's god is an atheists own mind. They both worship idols, but they are not the same. An atheist recognizes no idol-god other than their own mind, a Muslim's idol-god is a thing called "Allah" which is the devil in disguise.

Side: Atheism is not Islam
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It's more apt to say that Christianity and Islam are two sides of the same coin. Both have a belief in God, both had done terrible things in that name. To deny that is ignorance.

Atheism isn't even a coin if you try to compare the two.

Side: Atheism is not Islam

All you did was define everything that isnt Christianity as the same thing. So according to your bullshit definition then yes atheism is islam. But that also means absolutely nothing because atheism is also buddhism and buddhism is also jainism, and hinduism is islam, and on and on. It means absolutely nothing.

If i define all haircuts that are not an afro as "baldness" then that means having a mullet means your bald. Which strips both the word "mullet" and "bald" of any and all meaning.

Playing word games doesn't make you correct.

Side: Atheism is not Islam
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Abraham Lincoln, two sides of the same coin

Side: Atheism is not Islam