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Atheism AND Islam are both non-belief in Jesus Christ (unto Salvation) they BOTH deposit the believer (in Atheism and/or Islam) in the same place ..... eternal torment and destruction .... Jesus: the ONLY Savior of the World .... http://dadmansabode.com/b/23/230210.mp3
Atheism and Islam share symbols and are united politically in the West. They also share the same enemy. Christ. It kills the "anti-religion" theme of Atheism. It kills the "We deal in reality and reason" claim of Atheism. It kills the liberal "defense of women, lgbt's, etc" as is a prominent claim of Atheism. Thus, seeing the alliance is illogical, it's fair to say the alliance must be supernatural, or the Atheist claim of intellectual superiority is simply a lie. And... Atheistic Satanists and Witches practice self mutilation just like Muslims.
Basically you've defined everything that is not Christianity as being of the same coin. So everything in the world, other than Christianity itself, is the same thing.
You're on the right track here, though you probably don't want to admit it.
All religions and philosophies like your own, are attempts to be self-justified, trying to keep yourself out of Hell. What God did for you in Jesus Christ is His offer to justify your life in that His blood was shed to cover your sins so that in His resurrection He justifies those who come to Him seeking mercy and receive Him as He is, the Lord God the Only Savior.
It's what you do VS what God did for you. You are going your own way to death while God made the way for you to be saved. Jesus Christ is all about what God did for mankind. All religions, including atheism, are about what mankind can do for themselves which adds up to nothing but death.
All religions and philosophies like your own, are attempts to be self-justified
Right, including Christianity.
trying to keep yourself out of Hell
That's Christianity.
What God did for you in Jesus Christ is His offer to justify your life in that His blood was shed to cover your sins so that in His resurrection He justifies those who come to Him seeking mercy and receive Him as He is, the Lord God the Only Savior.
You are describing self justification that you implied was bad.
Jesus Christ is all about what God did for mankind.
Yes, but Christianity hasn't been about Jesus for centuries.
All religions, including atheism, are about what mankind can do for themselves which adds up to nothing but death.
Christianity will not save you. It is a religion. The relationship to God through Christ needs no name. Christ's main warning to his own was those within the church itself. Much of Christianity serves the devil just as much as all other belief or lack of belief systems.
Anybody who really knows God's love wants everybody else to know that God loves them. Few will believe it; it's natural to believe God does not love you.
This is why God doesn't love you. I say that God didn't love you and you turn it around to say that I don't want God to love me. You are wasting your time telling me God loves me. You should just spend your time getting God to love you again. He used to love you, but now He doesn't.
Cartman, you don't want God to love you, so in Hell there will be nothing to indicate that God loves you and you will have exactly what you want, complete inability to believe God loves you. I feel sorry for you.
I guess you don't care that He died for you to save you from Hell, you are rejecting Him, not caring what He did for you, so you are being rejected. You will have only yourself to blame if you end up in Hell, and God won't hear your cries there and blaming Him or anybody else won't help.
You're just wasting time, and since you have heard the gospel many times telling you how you can be saved from Hell, it's a waste of time for me to listen to you.
U can be saved, you can have all your sins forgiven...but you choose not to.
I am saved, I am blessed, I'm on my way to Heaven and it's my home. You are making your choice...you are damned by your own sin, you can be forgiven but you will not repent of your sin and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ.
You sound awful miserable and bitter....naturally.
I'm thinking truthfully of you. You are trying to say the Judge is guilty for calling your actions criminal. Your actions have made you unworthy of being in the presence of the Judge and He does not want you to be imprisoned in Hell forever or you would be there now. He's giving you time desiring you be reasonable and admit your guilt, and seek His mercy to be pardoned so you don't have to suffer the consequences of your actions.
This is not my logic, it is the truth. I do not own this logic, it's free to all who seek the truth.
Wow. What a strange coincidence. The guy who believes in God doesn't need evidence.
Supposed to mean what?
I've seen how you answer your questions on such topics, its strategic.......
You don't think atheists actually exist. Here you are not laughing sounding paranoid.
Me paranoid? You are the one complaining not me....
And how do i laugh on CD?..sound recording?
God is not our enemy. His fan club is dangerous though.
I guess the fan club is as dangerous as it's owner(you hate and deny)......thats why you have problems with it or else you shouldn't care or try to close it down.
I don't believe cinderella existed but i don't try to campaign against publishing of the books, movies or talks.....
So much for you not getting hysterical and laughing.
It shouldn't be a joke to you's.
It's like Bin laden presenting a bomb to America, Bin laden(Me) will be laughing but it will be no joking laughing about issue for America(atheists)......
Picture it that way...
Dumb arguments are the best.
Ah.
Ok.
Then i guess the dumb is on your side of account......have fun
Me paranoid? You are the one complaining not me....
And how do i laugh on CD?..sound recording?
Please explain how anything I have said sounds like complaining more than what you have said. You could try telling a joke if you wanted to laugh on CD.
I guess the fan club is as dangerous as it's owner(you hate and deny)......
See, that's a huge problem. You claiming your perfect God is just add bad as evil humans makes no sense.
thats why you have problems with it or else you shouldn't care or try to close it down.
I think the biggest problem I have is that I listen to the garbage you spew and I try to understand how a perfect being is as bad add imperfect beings. I am trying top have an intelligent conversation and you are making it impossible. Other than that I don't care about God.
I don't believe cinderella existed but i don't try to campaign against publishing of the books, movies or talks.....
You are against me giving my opinion about not believing in God. You don't think someone not believing in God exists. Plus, there are many examples of cases where Christians did exactly what you described. Some Christians complained about Harry Potter.
It shouldn't be a joke to you's.
It's like Bin laden presenting a bomb to America, Bin laden(Me) will be laughing but it will be no joking laughing about issue for America(atheists)......
Picture it that way...
It doesn't bother you that the only metaphor you could come up with involved you being Bin Laden?
Please explain how anything I have said sounds like complaining more than what you have said. You could try telling a joke if you wanted to laugh on CD
"His fan club is dangerous..."(cartman,2017).
"We are angry at people like you....."(cartman, 2017).
See, that's a huge problem. You claiming your perfect God is just add bad as evil humans makes no sense.
You said he is wicked or evil not me, you said he is dangerous not me....
You introduced it and i was pretending to be playing along and now you want to put those words on me?
I think the biggest problem I have is that I listen to the garbage you spew and I try to understand how a perfect being is as bad add imperfect beings. I am trying top have an intelligent conversation and you are making it impossible.
Intelligence is reciprocal.
Garbage in, Garbage out.
Other than that I don't care about God.
You don't care enough to be attacking his fan club....yeah right.
You are against me giving my opinion about not believing in God.
Me? It is seems you were the one who said you were angry at and against his fan club.....awkward!...
I only said there are no atheists on CD which you seem to be against also.(my opinions)
Christians complained about Harry Potter.
I have never protested though but i have own issues with it too.
Only a real christian can identify those things about the movie.
There were a lot of real things they were promoting there.
It doesn't bother you that the only metaphor you could come up with involved you being Bin Laden?
No, not all.
Bin Laden was born an innocent child.
Not a monster descending from the sky.
He became that for reason.(It doesn't justify his acts though).
Its just a perfect example.
Thanks for this one.
But you're not welcome....to my fan club until you throw away your pride.
So, you don't even understand the possible answers to the question you claim to have answered.
You first said "here"(as in you're atheist)
I said self acclaimly yes but not per definition.
And there came your first question, "where in the definition do you not fit?"
I answered, everywhere because you atheists talk paranoid when talking about God whom you's claim you don't believe in and it's weird.
That draws the line.(It closes here)
The rest is you defending yourself.
Like asking when you ever talked paranoid.
I said you don't talk long enough to expose it and to my surprise,
You exposed yourself by saying
You are angry at christians(paranoia), also the fan club is dangerous(and i don't know how)...clear paranoia...
Adding a few more rants which i was not willing to accommodate.......so i drew down the curtains.....but it seems you want to reopen the curtains with a sharp blade(forcing it) but am sorry it still wouldn't work.
Ok. So, you claim I meet none of the parts of the definition for atheist. To demonstrate that you attempted to show that I am paranoid and you added that I hate Christians. So, according to you the definition of atheist is someone who isn't paranoid and loves Christians. If that isn't an indicator to you that you like to change the definition of words you are insane.
Ok. So, you claim I meet none of the parts of the definition for atheist. To demonstrate that you attempted to show that I am paranoid and you added that I hate Christians. So, according to you the definition of atheist is someone who isn't paranoid and loves Christians. If that isn't an indicator to you that you like to change the definition of words you are insane.
I'm an Atheist. There is little I like about Islam (or for that matter, Christianity). I consider THEM "two sides of the same coin"! The two sides that have, for centuries, killed millions "in the name of their "god"! Atheists as a "group" have not done this ... because they have no "god" to do it FOR! A few radicals (we have THEM in ANY group including Muslims, Christians AND Atheists), but, like the radical conservatives of todays America, they have to build their strength by taking over the thoughts of the masses. Religions already have the masses that are easily swayed. Tell them GOD wants them to kill and they'll, as Blaise Pascal said, "....commit evil so fully and joyfully [with religious conviction]"! Christianity/Islam ... flip the coin!
Atheists as a "group" have not done this .... um, some education for you
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When Christopher Hitchens observes that .. “Religion is violent .. irrational .. intolerant .. allied to racism and tribalism and bigotry .. invested in ignorance and hostile to free inquiry .. contemptuous of women and coercive toward children" .. he is both right and wrong . . . . . Hitchens is right because humankind is sinful and selfish .. Indeed .. I believe it was G.K. Chesterton who said that the one Christian doctrine that was demonstrably provable .. even to casual observers .. was the sinfulness and depravity of man .. Thus .. human expressions of the religious impulse will inevitably produce some religious practices and beliefs that would fit Hitchens’ rather grim description . . . . Human history is replete with such flawed expressions of religious faith
However . . this would be true of all secular philosophies and ideologies as well .. Three of the most heinous and barbaric ideologies .. which produced the greatest cruelties and violations of humanity in the 20th century .. were fascism .. Nazism and communism . . . . all secular
Hitchens is wrong in that he condemns all religious expression to the category of such violent and negative expressions . . . Many of the noblest expressions of humanity throughout the centuries have been performed in the name of religion . . . One thinks of William Wilberforce and his long campaign to end the slave trade in the British Empire . . . Both the British and American abolitionist movements were founded .. nurtured .. financed and led to victory against the horrific evil of slavery by people who were most often inspired and motivated by deep religious conviction
The great social reform movements of the last half of the 19th and the first half of the 20th century ( child labor reform .. etc ) were often led by people of deep religious faith .. Protestant and Catholic
And of course .. in the lifetime of many of us who were born in the last half of the 20th century .. the most successful and greatest reform movement was the civil rights revolution .. led by a Baptist minister .. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr .. who often said that the movement and the faith that inspired it could not be separated . . . As many will remember .. the civil rights revolution was supported by and led to victory in large part because of the leadership of clergy .. black and white ............ Dr Richard Land
Secular communism/fascism is the number one mass murderer, religion is number two proving only one thing: It is the evil in the hearts of men abusing power.
When an atheist claims atheism is good, they are obviously self-deluded and not likely to listen to any reasonable challenge to their world and life view.
I think Adolfi is one of those so closed minded they will never see a ray of hope in the gospel. I sure would like to be proven wrong about that but I doubt it will happen
The first link is predicated on the bullshit stance that atheist "movements" represent what atheism is. You dont need to be part of the "new atheist" movement to be an atheist. And atheism is not defined as membership in that group. So an atheist group could be rampantly mysogenistic but that doesnt mean that atheism is. Just like the KKK (a self proclaimed christian group) is rampantly racist and that doesnt mean christianity is what the KKK espouses. Most atheists in fact wholly reject these atheism movements which try to merge atheism with feminism and other movements when it makes absolutely no sense to do so.
The second link is fucking buzzfeed. That is a rebuttal in itself.
The third link is the same rebuttal as the first. Atheist groups do not speak for atheism and all atheists. These are atheist movements which have taken on an additional goal of opposing christianity of their own volition. That does not mean atheism itself has those goals.
And the last link is the same exact shit. A couple butthurt people do not speak for atheism or what atheism is.
All you found were mysoginistic, biggoted, and intolerant PEOPLE. This does not in any way show that atheism itself espouses these beliefs. I refer you to the KKK example.
Mohammedans are commanded to kill or enslave atheists; they are not the same though they are both religious attempts of self-justification. The atheist insists he is justified to exist outside of Hell simply because he did not ask to exist and therefore believes God does not have the right to leave them frying like an eternal sausage in Hell. The Muslim believes he is justified to exist outside of Hell by causing God to owe them something based on what they do.
Islam has a god which is an idol, atheism's god is an atheists own mind. They both worship idols, but they are not the same. An atheist recognizes no idol-god other than their own mind, a Muslim's idol-god is a thing called "Allah" which is the devil in disguise.
It's more apt to say that Christianity and Islam are two sides of the same coin. Both have a belief in God, both had done terrible things in that name. To deny that is ignorance.
Atheism isn't even a coin if you try to compare the two.
All you did was define everything that isnt Christianity as the same thing. So according to your bullshit definition then yes atheism is islam. But that also means absolutely nothing because atheism is also buddhism and buddhism is also jainism, and hinduism is islam, and on and on. It means absolutely nothing.
If i define all haircuts that are not an afro as "baldness" then that means having a mullet means your bald. Which strips both the word "mullet" and "bald" of any and all meaning.