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Atheism caused West's decline Atheism did not cause decline
Debate Score:35
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Atheism caused the West's decline

Atheism has caused the major decline and chaos of the West. This video sums up Atheism.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sEZmMeH96Q&feature=youtu.be

Atheism caused West's decline

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Atheism did not cause decline

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Side: Atheism caused West's decline
Cartman(18192) Disputed
1 point

He described Christianity. Belief in nothing (a God that only exists in the imagination), people without hope (going to Hell), and easy to control.

Side: Atheism did not cause decline
1 point

1)Hope for what?

2)What is "hell"?

3)If a political machine has the choice between trying to control the religious or the secular, guess which one Hitler found was easier to control.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-CpS6nvBh9kk/TM4EEs20gI/AAAAAAAABjw/6T-pA7SduTA/s1600/ Adolf+Hitler+quotes+on+faith+quotation+on+knowledge+quotes+on+knowledge+is+power.jpg

Side: Atheism caused West's decline
3 points

What decline?

Side: Atheism did not cause decline

The decline in the number of religious nuts like himself and FromWithin/Saintnow

Side: Atheism did not cause decline
1 point

Well... let us take a peek.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bp4NkItgf0E

hmmm... not so crazy eh?

Side: Atheism caused West's decline
1 point

More people were killed in Chicago this year than soldiers were killed in the Iraq War. Please do keep up.

Side: Atheism caused West's decline
Cartman(18192) Disputed
1 point

Christians killing other Christians in larger numbers than Muslims can kill Christians had what to do with Atheism?

Side: Atheism did not cause decline
2 points

Debt caused the West's decline, spurred on by poor management for two centuries. Religion vs atheism has nothing to do with debt.

Separate from the $$$$ factor the West is otherwise free and vibrant compared to absolutely everything else which doesn't fall within the "West" reference.

Side: Atheism did not cause decline
1 point

Sure it does. The Bible says not to go into debt. (ROMANS 13:8) for example.

Side: Atheism caused West's decline
Grenache(6053) Disputed
1 point

Super. So we've been told repeatedly on this site this nation started predominately Christian and is so today. Why do those Christians have debt? Sounds like they must be really really bad at being Christian then.

Side: Atheism did not cause decline
sylynn(626) Disputed
1 point

If this were true it seems pretty shady for Christian colleges to charge so much for tuition basically causing people to go in debt. Also must be nice to simply pay cash for a house.

or...

You could read this in proper context (not even context, just learn to read) and notice it says do not let debt remain outstanding. This doesn't mean you can't go in debt.

Side: Atheism did not cause decline

There is not that many atheists. Vast majority believe in Christianity. So, by statistical support- since Christians have been at the helm for hundreds if yeArs it must be Christianity that caused our decline

Side: Atheism did not cause decline
1 point

Which would make sense if tv, the media, the schools, etc were controlled by Christians...

Side: Atheism caused West's decline
Cartman(18192) Disputed
1 point

It's not run by atheists, though. Can you at least agree with that fact?

Side: Atheism did not cause decline

Atheism is a strength, not a weakness. Atheists don't accept things on "faith", instead atheists question things and think critically. Also, atheists as a group, commit less crime than religious people and many more scientists are atheists than are religious.

Side: Atheism did not cause decline
sylynn(626) Disputed
1 point

This image actually proves our point. When people form their beliefs (I am not using "beliefs" in a religious context here) in knowledge, their minds can easily be changed when new evidence is presented. Those who believe on faith, doesn't matter what evidence is shown to them, nothing that goes against their faith can be true.

Supporting Evidence: Ray Comfort response to if there was no god (i.imgur.com)
Side: Atheism did not cause decline
1 point

The same scientists that are typically "wrong" a decade later? The same scientists that say now that the construct of the universe is dual block self error correcting code?

Explain this to the scientists-

“666”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rs09o5jpY

Revelation-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F47uAKG-k-s

Image of the beast-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TheBeast(Revelation)#Imageofthebeast#Imageofthebeast)

Bowing to the image-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGukAoiGhZU

What they actually are bowing to-

http://www.crystalinks.com/blackstoneofmecca.html

Beheadings-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkKQRFo6IQ

http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/10/05/report-syrian-christians-cry-jesus-isis- mass-beheading/

Mystery Babylon-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WhoreofBabylon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F47uAKG-k-s

Side: Atheism caused West's decline
Cartman(18192) Disputed
1 point

Why is it ok to believe in non scientists who have been wrong for millennia?

Side: Atheism did not cause decline
1 point

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Side: Atheism did not cause decline