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Serious problem, duh... EXCUSE
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Autism, serious problem or excuse?

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Serious problem, duh...

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4 points

Are you kidding me? My cousin has severe autism he's twelve and has the emotional and intelligent capacity of a 5 year old.

Read up on autism http://www.autism.org.uk/about-autism/autism-and-asperger-syndrome-an-introduction/what-is-autism.aspx and rethink the question. I can only assume you confused autism with ADHD.

Side: Serious problem, duh...
Sarawrr Disputed
1 point

Although I agree with you on the fact that it is a serious problem, I have a mild form of autism and most people think that it is just an excuse for being different. When I explain that I'm autistic, they don't believe me because they see autism as people acting up and pissing about, when actually it's where you can't express your emotions that well and you don't know how other people are feeling from their body language. When you have severe autism you do act up, but I'm guessing that the question isn't about severe autism. it's about mild autism.

Side: Serious problem, duh...
ptosis(244) Disputed
1 point

Reread what you said and change your viewpoint from disputed to support. That in itself is evidence that autism is a different way of thinking that is not common.

I agree that autism is real, that there are many degrees of seriousness and types. Each one is a one of a kind. A catagory unto itself.

Enuf said.

Side: Serious problem, duh...
ptosis(244) Disputed
1 point

What your beef with ADHD? Do you think that they are all pretenders?

Side: Serious problem, duh...
catticus90(360) Disputed
2 points

No, ADHD however still has some grey areas as well as 'naughty' children being labeled with the disorder despite not having it. I'd understand that debate.

Side: Serious problem, duh...
Idiotobx914(1341) Clarified
1 point

Your source is biased...

Side: Serious problem, duh...
1 point

How can it even be termed an excuse? Even the slightest effect of autism leaves one's life intolerably traumatic. It is evil sensed. It can never be an excuse. This is really stupid. Is there something you are trying to say?!

Side: Serious problem, duh...

Believing Autism is an excuse is like saying that Turrets is an excuse. Such a claim holds no validity.

Side: Serious problem, duh...
2 points

Some folks who are hawks - pretend to be pigeons. Not only for atuism but any condition, (poor, needy, disabled, etal). But people should not look at the pretenders who are an exception and then judge the majority as fakers.

Try to discern over time to understand the truth in each individual.

Side: Excuse-sometimes
1 point

It is an excuse. Autism is the most diagnosed disorder by doctors. A lot of children are "diagnosed" with Autism at a early age. They just turn out to be late bloomers. JUST because a doctor diagnoses a person with Autism does NOT mean they have it. It's just a opinion.

Side: excuse
catticus90(360) Disputed
2 points

Most diagnosed disorder? No it's not. Do you have any evidence because the only evidence I can find is that mental disorders are the most misdiagnosed. (Just type it into Google).

Severe autism or even mild is not an excuse, it is has a negative impact on emotional and intellectual intelligence for the sufferer. In fact mild sufferers that I have known prefer not to have people know of the disorder, so how are they using it as an excuse?

Then severe sufferers, they have severe learning disabilities, really severe. This is from first hand experience of family members. You cannot say it is not a serious problem.

Side: Serious problem, duh...
Sulith(508) Disputed
2 points

Honestly, it's lack of parenting. People who have "autism" weren't raised right.

"I'll tell you what autism is. In 99 percent of the cases, it's a brat who hasn't been told to cut the act out. That's what autism is. What do you mean they scream and they're silent? They don't have a father around to tell them, 'Don't act like a moron. You'll get nowhere in life. Stop acting like a putz. Straighten up. Act like a man. Don't sit there crying and screaming, idiot."

most misdiagnosed.

Yes, it is still a diagnosis.

It is a problem. People need to stop bitching and grow up. Or they just don't want to because of the "disability advantages".

Side: excuse
iamdavidh(4856) Disputed
2 points

Heart disease I think is more common.

Autism has become a bit more common than it used to be due to a combination of the drugs we give children at a young age and a new understanding of the difference between a genuine idiot and someone with an actual brain disorder.

You for instance. I'm not a doctor so to me you're just an idiot. However, you may have autism.

Side: depends
Sulith(508) Disputed
2 points

God, I wish insults made me win debates.

Adhominem is a falicy; it's not a valid form of arguing.

You know the word "Idiot" actually use to mean a individual with a mental disorder. So your using it derogatory?

For clarification, are you arguing that the diagnosis of Autism is a bit more common due to these two factors you have stated?

It's not a accurate clear thought.

So, then are the drugs causing Autism or the diagnosis?

Cause and effect.

And where is this "New Understanding" documented from? What have you been reading? Have you just read a article on the difference between a screw up and a individual with a brain disorder?

Side: excuse
Peekaboo(704) Disputed
1 point

Just because the disorder is sometimes wrongly diagnosed on healthy people, that doesn't mean the disorder itself is an excuse. All it means is that doctors should try to be more careful with their diagnosis, and healthy people shouldn't hide under the label of a disorder they don't have.

Side: Serious problem, duh...
Sulith(508) Disputed
2 points

I don't see what this has to do with my post?

But I'll give it my best shot.

The disorder is perhaps a excuse for bad parenting or a bad environment.

I mean just the meaning of Autism sounds ridiculous. A person that has problems with social relations and communication? That sounds more like a problem being raised.

Example, when I was a baby my parents still read to me every night either though I couldn't understand. But because of that I was able to read and understand speech, vocabulary, letters, words, etc. at a early age. I have been in the top of all my English classes. All the way till senior year of high school. I grew up without drugs or alcohol being used in the household also. Very high standards.

On the other hand let me list examples that could make a child have "Autism"

1. Parents only perform their legal responsibilities for the child.

2. Neither parent is telling them to act straight.

3. Lack of social interactions with family and friends. In other words the child wasn't around enough people when it was young. (Autism supposedly takes effect at age 3)

4. The child was abused.

All listed above as you can see have to do with parenting.

Side: excuse
1 point

It has to be an excuse because it 100% complete bullshit.

Side: EXCUSE

I think there might be something to "autism", but I honestly think most of it is just BS. I feel that most of the "symptoms" are too easily recognizable and justifiable.

Side: EXCUSE