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Of course NOT If they're BROWN, fuck yeah
Debate Score:35
Arguments:24
Total Votes:48
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Baby's born in the USA ARE citizens. Should their UNDOCUMENTED parents be taken from them?

Of course NOT

Side Score: 20
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If they're BROWN, fuck yeah

Side Score: 15
3 points

Anyone that commits a crime can and in most cases should be separated from their children. As an american citizen, if you shoplift or drive intoxicated you can be arrested and separated from your children. Being arrested in this country or any country for breaking the law commonly means you will be separated. So either you have laws regarding our boarders or you don't.

Or are you suggesting that anyone that breaks the laws of the land and has children should not be separated from them? No... there is another option.... The whole family can go to jail together. Can you imagine what our county jails would look like if the entire the families was put in jail with their father, who got arrested for drunk driving?

Se, so separating the kids.

Side: Of course NOT

You already answered this debate the same exact way I was going to.

Excon already knows they separate children from criminal parents. He spends all his time being a puppet to fake news and The Democrat Party.

If you are going to think exactly as I think, then we will have to take turns enlightening these Leftists :)

Side: Of course NOT
Nom_Chomsky(846) Disputed
-1 points

Anyone that commits a crime can and in most cases should be separated from their children.

Oh shut up you idiot. You literally sound like a fascist.

Or are you suggesting that anyone that breaks the laws of the land and has children should not be separated from them?

Suggesting? I'm outright asserting that you sound like a fascist. Obey me or else. That is the extent of your reasoning skills.

Side: If they're BROWN, fuck yeah
Marine_Sgt(29) Clarified
2 points

I asked a very reasonable question. Not once have I questioned your intelligence. Not once have I used profanity on you.

Give me a straight answer (yes or no).

Do you think a person that breaks a law, be they an American citizen or not, should they be arrested and separated from their family.

Side: Of course NOT

Baby's born in the USA ARE citizens.

True.

Should their UNDOCUMENTED parents be taken from them?

No. That's why Trump is going for the mass deportation of illegals who are violent criminals.

Side: Of course NOT
excon(18261) Disputed
0 points

That's why Trump is going for the mass deportation of illegals who are violent criminals.

Hello again, bront:

I have trouble with that term.. Under NO set of circumstances, including the most LIBERAL of policies, is a VIOLENT criminal undocumented person ALLOWED to be in the US..

If he's been CONVICTED of a violent crime, ICE is REQUIRED to place a DETAINER on him, and pick him up the day his sentence expires.. That happens even in sanctuary cities.. In fact, the city isn't involved in that transfer at all..

If he's been CONVICTED of a violent crime, and is walking our streets, and ICE KNOWS where he is, and they HAVEN'T gotten him BEFORE today, they are DERELICT in their sworn duty..

excon

Side: If they're BROWN, fuck yeah
1 point

,If he's been CONVICTED of a violent crime, and is walking our streets, and ICE KNOWS where he is, and they HAVEN'T gotten him BEFORE today, they are DERELICT in their sworn duty

That's what happens when Democrat politicians warn them about raids.

ICE says Oakland mayor's warning to illegal immigrants protected convicted criminals

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/ice-says-oakland-mayors-warning-to-illegal-immigrants-protected-convicted-criminals? amp=true

Okay. Here's where you need to switch positions to stay with the hive and not get targeted and destroyed by them for dissent.

Side: Of course NOT
0 points

I have trouble with that term.. Under NO set of circumstances, including the most LIBERAL of policies, is a VIOLENT criminal undocumented person ALLOWED to be in the US.

No shit. That's why we are trying to get them out. Of course you welcome them in faster than we can round them up.

Side: Of course NOT
outlaw60(15368) Disputed
0 points

SUPER STUPID you are the TYPICAL leftist IDIOT that knows no facts !!!!!!!!!!!!

How many people have been deported under Obama?

President Barack Obama has often been referred to by immigration groups as the "Deporter in Chief."

Between 2009 and 2015 his administration has removed more than 2.5 million people through immigration orders, which doesn’t include the number of people who "self-deported" or were turned away and/or returned to their home country at the border by U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP).

How does he compare to other presidents?

According to governmental data, the Obama administration has deported more people than any other president's administration in history.

In fact, they have deported more than the sum of all the presidents of the 20th century.

President George W. Bush's administration deported just over two million during his time in office; and Obama’s numbers don’t reflect his last year in office, for which data is not yet available.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/obamas-deportation-policy-numbers/story?id=41715661

Where was all the LEFTIST outrage when the "Deporter in Chief" was in charge you IDIOT ??????? Nothing but CRICKETS there STUPID !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Side: Of course NOT
Nom_Chomsky(846) Disputed
0 points

True

Nothing you say is EVER true. The very fact you have said it at all qualifies as evidence that it is not true. You are the textbook definition of a pathological liar, and you sit here all day using puppet accounts to upvote your own vile fascist hate speech.

Side: If they're BROWN, fuck yeah
1 point

Nothing you say is EVER true.

Sure they are. I even made a debate about how Noam Chomsky contradicted half of your claims. You ignored the debate all together.

The very fact you have said it at all qualifies as evidence that it is not true

You literally claimed we had a conversation 180 days ago, and I literally provided my waterfall showing I made no comments 180 days ago. You also have only been a member for 43 days.

Side: Of course NOT

If they're BROWN, fuck yeah

Cut the crap Con. If a brown or black person dissents from the left for a second, they'll be called every name in the Jim Crow playbook by leftists.

Side: Of course NOT
2 points

Even though babies born in America automatically qualify as U.S., citizens they must be removed from their criminal parents.

ILLEGAL = ''CONTRARY TO, OR FORBIDDEN BY LAW''.

Therefore ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS ARE BY DEFINITION, CRIMINALS.

All criminals, including incarcerated adult American citizens are not allowed by law to have their children stay with them in the clink.

So, this begs the counter question;- Why should immigrant CRIMINALS receive special privileges and be allowed to have their babies accompany them in slammer?

Side: Of course NOT
1 point

No. Conservatives have proven time and again to NOT be profamily.

Side: Of course NOT
3 points

A shoplifter got arrested. She was with her kids. They didn’t go to jail with her. She is still innocent until proven guilty. If she stole a lot and/or she is a flight risk (eg from another state), she may be held for a while. Without her kids. Is that ok?

Side: If they're BROWN, fuck yeah

Yes, it's okay. The left feigns concern when they hear the dog whistle. Until then they are busy.

Side: If they're BROWN, fuck yeah
Marine_Sgt(29) Clarified
2 points

Help me better understand your position.

It is a fact that there is hardly a country in the world that you will not be arrested and detained if you chose to cross its boarders illegally. That’s not just the United States, both Canada and Mexico have similar laws.

As is the case in most countries, if you break the law, you are subject to arrest. Illegally crossing a county’s boarder is no small issue. It's hardly the same as J-walking. In nearly all cases and in nearly every country, you are going to be separated from your children when you are arrested. Domestically, American Citizens are arrested every day for committing crimes. And when that happens, they are separated from their families.

As to those seeking asylum, there are legal provisions for them and done legally they will not be separated from their families. The only people being separated from their families are those that attempted to come into the country or stay in the country illegally.

So, the question I posse is, should a person that enters the country illegally (they broke the law), be arrested and separated from their family just as an American citizen can be arrested and separated from their families if they break the law?

Side: Of course NOT
Amarel(5669) Clarified
1 point

Domestically, American Citizens are arrested every day for committing crimes. And when that happens, they are separated from their families.

Yeah, that’s the point of my example

Side: Of course NOT