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Debate Score:26
Arguments:29
Total Votes:26
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Because Jesus was a male, Mary couldn't have been a virgin.

Science

Side Score: 11
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Religion

Side Score: 15
2 points

The only way a non-virgin birth can occur is if the mother freakishly has a clone or slightly mutated clone of herself as a baby in her womb.

But it is pretty much impossible for the X of a woman to mutate into the Y of a man within the space of time it takes to have a functional baby.

If Jesus had been a female, I would honestly consider New Testament Bible a possible scenario.

Supporting Evidence: Asexual reproduction in animals. (en.wikipedia.org)
Side: Science
riahlize(1573) Disputed
1 point

It doesn't matter anyway, parthenogenesis is not a human ability.

Side: Science
Del1176(4974) Disputed
1 point
Side: Religion
timber113(796) Disputed
1 point

the whole story is a miracle and Science has no business in meddling in miracles. Even if Jesus was female, there would be something else preventing you from believing.

If Jesus had been a female, I would honestly consider New Testament Bible a possible scenario.

So the issue for you is gender. Not when he rose from the grave after being dead three days; not when he fed the 5000+ with bread. Not when he calmed the storm, or told Lazarus to wake up from the dead; not when he cast out demons (which is as farfetched as virgin birth). Not when he told the future of Peter's betrayal. These all fall under the same category of virgin birth and gender issue so if Jesus was female, you would have another obstacle blocking your belief.

Side: Religion

She was not a virgin. It's a wrong translation from Aramaic young to Greek virgin....

Side: Science
Del1176(4974) Disputed
1 point

Greek =/= Hebrew

Side: Religion

You know Mary was fucking someone whether it was Joseph or not .

Side: Science
2 points

That is why it is religion. Do you think science explains how earth was made in 1000 years? Or how walls of water literally split the sea? Its religion.

Side: Religion
Del1176(4974) Clarified
1 point

Putting blind faith in science isn't any better.

Side: Science
1 point

Science explains what ever is necessary and can be shown to you in front of your face.

Side: Religion
charlesisboz(9) Disputed
1 point

I would like to point out that you are not making any arguements, you are just stating your opinion without any real life or logic backing.

Side: Science
2 points

It's called a imaculate birth it was a miracle. God just basically planted the child in marry is a mirical people don't think about it too hard.

Side: Religion

I don't believe in that stuff.

But if we pretend its true, then sure Mary could have given birth to him and still be virgin.

I mean come on if God can walk on water, rise people from the dead and save people from hell then why not also make a virgin pregnant with a boy?

Side: Religion
Del1176(4974) Clarified
1 point

Because Jesus only walked on water as a ghost, not a human. Mary was 100% human. God made human women only capable of having female virgin births. You are asking why we assume God isn't a hypocrite and that's because if God is a hypocrite he might as well not give any moral codes.

Side: Science
1 point

If God is, as the bible says, Almighty, then he set certainly must be able to make a virgin pregnant with a boy, and still be a virgin

Side: Science
timber113(796) Disputed
1 point

Where did the text say he was a ghost? Can ghosts even be proven by Science? If it can't and Science is your yardstick you would not consider new testament theology.

Mary was 100% human. God made human women only capable of having female virgin births.

this is an if a woman gave a virgin birth scenario. God never made women capable of virgin births at all. If they were capable show me a documented successful account where a woman gave a virgin birth. I searched and I found none at all.

I can understand why the virgin birth is so incomprehensible, because it is strictly a miracle. i.e. it only occurs by god's intervention. God doesn't do miracles half-hazardly because if he did it would provide a great detriment to prove his existence. Have you ever spoken to an atheist about a personal experience and he explains a possibility to it? That is what would happen in the virgin birth if there was enough evidence. Yes that's right he goes hard or goes home with his miracles. So dont try to explain them, just accept them or leave tem alone

Side: Religion

Oh great, another one of Prodigees prodigal arguments. AMEN!

Side: Religion
Del1176(4974) Clarified
1 point

You misused the term 'prodigal'.

Side: Science
1 point

The God of Christianity either goes hard or goes home so its either you can explain it or you can't. he doesn't have a middle man.

Side: Religion