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johnbonham32 JakeJ
Debate Score:48
Arguments:29
Total Votes:50
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Between these two debaters, who would win?

johnbonham32

Side Score: 21
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JakeJ

Side Score: 27
4 points

it's not much of a challenge, dude. but that's cause jake is more ideological than he is focused on the issue. and he resorts to the ad hominem (like jessald) and the down vote (like janus complex).

johnbonham knows all of this, so he put himself up against jakej. also, he's a pretty good debater.

Side: johnbonham32
jessald(1915) Disputed
3 points

There are times when you need to look at the person making the argument. For example, it's wouldn't be worthwhile to research a claim by Neo-Nazis that Jews are inferior people.

Strictly speaking I do use ad-hominem sometimes, but that's just as a crap-filter. I don't have time to research every bs claim spouted by every idiot on this site. If I was debating someone with a reputation for honesty, someone who actually did a little research from time to time, only then would it be worthwhile to address their arguments and ignore everything else.

Side: JakeJ
ThePyg(6743) Disputed
1 point

you can do the intellectual thing and ignore the morons. i do it all the time.

makes me feel way better than calling someone a moron.

Side: johnbonham32
2 points

Perfectly said. I totally agree. Not only because johnbonham is the one who created this debate, I agree anyway

Side: johnbonham32

I don't think this is fair but have at it boys! In my heart of hearts it would be johnbonham ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Side: johnbonham32
1 point

Is this going to be an actual 1-on-1 debate? I remember Lawnman suggested he moderate that kind of thing, but I don't know if it was actually started. I'd love to see this happen, and since two people are mentioned here, let's let them have at it :]

Side: johnbonham32
2 points

Well, Lawnman has been doing some pretty innovative things with debates recently, I wouldn't be surprised if he did start something like that.

For the record, seeing or participating in anything like that would be awesome.

Side: GO
1 point

shameless point grab

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Side: johnbonham32
4 points

I'm gonna say Jake, cuz I've never seen John actually debate anyone. He mostly just posts chit-chat or he states an opinion and then leaves. No offense, John :)

Side: JakeJ

Boy Jess, I too have been guilty of that of late. I just cannot seem to concentrate on some of this stuff.

Side: johnbonham32

None taken, my friend. It's true, I don't debate other people individually that often, just opinions.

Side: JakeJ
3 points

No matter how well you argue, he will not agree and he will downvote you every step of the way... but you know what, if you make 222 arguments and he downvotes all of them, you'll be one point ahead of him ;)

Side: New Tag
JakeJ(3255) Disputed
1 point

Do you seriously think that I have never agreed with somebody I was debating against? I do that all the time! And I admit my mistakes. And I don't down vote every single reply.

So basically everything you just said about me is false.

Side: johnbonham32
Bradf0rd(1428) Disputed
2 points

I don't seriously think that you have never agreed with somebody you were debating against. You do that all the time! And you admit your mistakes. And you don't down vote every single reply.

So basically everything I just said about you is true?

Side: JakeJ
2 points

Okay, so there are 2 people on the other side tagged as johnbonham32 and the say nothing about why I would lose and he would win so...... I guess I can do the same over here.

Side: JakeJ

I see what you mean Jake and you're right BUT...as I said in my post, which I than added on to, this is not a fair debate. Naming names never is and what for. There are always better debaters than you or me and always will be. From my end, please don't take it personally but I do think that Tony is a better debater than you are overall. No offense at all meant.

Side: johnbonham32
1 point

I haven't seen many of johnbonham32's posts, so I can't see why he wouldn't win. However, I've seen many of Jakej's posts and view him as a good debater. I can see why Jakej would win.

Side: JakeJ
0 points

I'm with Kukla, less asking who WOULD do better, more debating. :P

So....uh....Bush. haha. I love opening cans of worms. :)

Side: GO