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Bill gates is among 'gods' atheists deny
Say he never gets so proud to call himself one, I can classify bill gates the god of material dreams/wishes...
do you wish to travel to space?, have a certain shirt, artwork, house, car, book, etc..... you name it and all will come true with just a snap of his fingers.
Leonardo da vinci god of painting.... just go into the deepest part of your imaginations and have him paint it best than any other painter would.
Etc......these gods can be replaced in any strong competition or the birth of a talent or idea unlike the Almighty God.
Why do atheists deny the existence of gods??
If you make 20000000 of your currency a year and keep praying for an increase and bill gates makes it 1bn a year for no work/effort*load*distance/impact? is that not supernatural??
by the way the way there are also non human gods.
Cheetah's, Whales, Eagles etc........
and spirits(you don't like it)
The position of a *god* is common and can be assumed by any even.a moron as long as he/she can beat/bully his fellow of the same field either of needs or skills.
Usain bolt.
Such as mr. corey carter stage name Jay Z says he is the godmc Jayhovah.
Messi claimed to be god of football when was on top....
Ronaldo said he was sent by god/God
of football and Messi replied saying" i didn't send anyone"
all of these exist under competition...if you appear to be the best but not permanent since you can easily be replaced.
spirits are supposed to be stronger, faster, bigger and better than humans in all talents and even if they aren't God because they bully the entire human race in every competition they are gods.
who is the god of Create debate? bronto or Tzpepe?
And now that i have clarified how moronic atheists can be,
who is the god of all moronic atheists? i think dermot...
You might be able to make a case that Dermot is the devil, but the god of atheists is really arbitrariness. Arbitrariness follows quite naturally from serving the creature rather than the creator.
How about gravity? Gravity is the god of the atheist. Little do they know, there is nothing that has more gravitas than God All mighty.
"Therefore seeing we have this ministry, as we have received mercy, we faint not; but have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty, not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully; but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man’s conscience in the sight of God. But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: in whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus’ sake. For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ."
Again your confusion is rather sad as the entity called the devil is yet another fiction and atheists do not have ' gods ' , this seems to be an incredibly difficult concept for you too grasp , whys that ?
You seem to be yet another so called believer who actually does not believe otherwise why do you and your fellow ' believers ' spend your entire day attempting to convince each other there's a god ?
Anyone who disputes the undeniable fact that there is God is a fool. There is no debate. You can make claims all you want, but if you do in fact deny the existence of ultimate reality, everything you say can be discounted as deception. You do not believe in truth, so if you are trying to convince people, it isn't because you are trying to convince them of the truth.
You say that there is no god, but at the same time you are incapable of saying, "I believe that there is no ultimate reality.". If you cannot say this ,can you say, "I believe that there is ultimate reality"?
I'm asking you to clarify your position, and you are being evasive. Why? Because you know you are in a trap. Apparently, you aren't clever enough to escape either.
Well, you can't get out of this by being evasive. The fact that you are being deceptive is going to be plain for all to see.
Why don't you make your position clear?
Do you or do you not believe that there is ultimate reality?
I'm not asking you about "gods", I'm asking you about "ultimate reality". Do you believe ultimate reality exists or not? I'm not asking you about "gods", so don't pretend you've answered the question by denying gods again.
A personal loving "god" can be a parent to a child.
An impersonal being can be the government.
An eternal truth or principle that governs the earth could be causality.
You are not the one who gets to decide what "ultimate reality" means. You or anyone elses ability to know ultimate reality is irrelevant as far as ultimate reality existing. The fact that there is reality at all... The fact that there is reality at all is proof enough that there is ultimate reality. One cannot exist without the other.
To claim ultimate reality....
Reality according to merriam-webster is defined as "the quality or state of being real."
Here are some definitions of "ultimate" according to merriam-webster
"the best or most extreme"
The best or most extreme state of being real
"arrived at as the last result"
The state of being real arrived at as the last result
"basic, fundamental"
The basic, fundamental, state of being real.
"original"
The original state of being real
"incapable of further analysis, division, or separation"
The state of being real that is incapable of further analysis, division, or separation.
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What do you think "ultimate reality" means? How can you claim that faith in ultimate reality is nonsense? Clearly not having faith in ultimate reality is nonsense.
The alpha and the omega, the beginning and the end. There is only One True God.
Incorrect , a parent to a child is a parent nothing more .
Government isn't a ' being ' impersonal or otherwise.
Causality is the relationship between cause and effect and hardly an ' eternal truth '
I gave you the only valid positions for ' ultimate reality ' now you're saying reality is in fact ' ultimate reality ' ; you're too cowardly to pick your position but you've already said ' ultimate reality ' is God which again is an assertion without proof
You said, "a personal loving god"(with a little "g"). A little "g" "god" is defined by merriam webster as "a person or thing of supreme value", which could definitely describe the relationship between a child and their parent(s). A little "g" god is also defined as "a powerful ruler". I do believe that the authority parents exercise over their children is evident.
"Being" is defined by merriam-webster as "the quality or state of having existence". You are saying that the government doesn't exist?
If you do not believe that causality is an eternal truth, do you believe that phenomena occur without cause? Do you believe that events occur for no reason? Are you incapable of seeing that there is continuity clearly present in creation? Truly, eternal truth is only in The Holiest Name. The Ultimate Reality is by definition "eternal truth".
Your reality is contingent on observation. The ultimate reality does not require an observer to exist. There is no authority you have on your own. If you have any real authority at all, it has been granted to you by ultimate reality. If this wasn't the case, you would not actually have any authority. Everyone has been granted the authority they have by ultimate reality. The authorities that are revoked from us are also done so by ultimate reality. It is the evident truth that no authority can ever be greater than ultimate reality. There is nothing you can say or do that can possibly undermine ultimate reality. If you state that you believe there to be no ultimate reality, you are elevating yourself to the level of ultimate reality. You are admitting that you do in fact have a god, and that you place that god before ultimate reality.
So if you say, "there is no ultimate reality", you are openly adopting the position of arrogant fool. You are arrogant because you are taking yourself as a god equal to or greater than ultimate reality. You are a fool because you are taking yourself as a god equal to or greater than ultimate reality.
If you remain in denial of this, it makes no difference. It makes no difference if my observations are true or not. The point is, the rightful judge is ultimate reality. The authority is with the ultimate reality. All the power and glory goes to the ultimate reality. The ultimate reality never had a beginning, will never have an end, is always there. The ultimate reality is king of kings, lord of lords. If you deny ultimate reality, you have nothing else to stand on. Ultimate reality is the solid foundation.
So are you really saying, "I believe there is no ultimate reality"? Is that really what you are saying?
I am not ashamed to believe on the name of Jesus Christ. God is Salvation. The Ultimate Reality is Salvation. The Truth is what Saves You.
You do not determine what ultimate reality must be.
You can't say, "I believe there is no ultimate reality", because you really do believe that there is ultimate reality. You are too proud to admit it. Either that, or you know exactly what such an admission will do to your credibility. Your magic will be exposed for what it is.
But can you say, "I do not believe that there is ultimate reality."? Can you say, "I believe that there is ultimate reality."?
Can you even say, "I do not know if there is ultimate reality."?
Can you even say, "I do not know what the ultimate reality is."?
You can't say "There is no ultimate reality."
So in other words, you have an aversion to the word "God", but your battle is really against gods. You say that the government doesn't exist, which is by definition consistent with the idea that you are an atheist.
Sure, my faith isn't in created things either. The God I believe in is the uncreated creator of all creation. All of these "gods" come and go, they are transient beings. They die. They are all creation. The ultimate reality is uncreated and exists eternally.
You have no argument against the God I believe in.
It's pretty obvious to me that dermot is a time waster. It is fine by me, he represents the atheist position and its innate arbitrariness beautifully.
Maybe somebody will come to the realization of truth by watching our interactions. I believe the truth stands clear apart from error.
I am not trying to puff up my ego by winning an argument. I am simply acting as a witness to God. The one with all the answers is God, not me. I can only point to The One who is Salvation. I'm not really all that clever. I recognize God. My strength is God's. My weakness is my flesh. Where I fail, God will never. The God of righteousness stands eternal.
The fact that you do not believe there is ultimate reality is proof that you lack discernment to begin with. Your observations stand on nothing. You have embraced arbitrariness.
You say it is true that you don't believe in ultimate reality, and that this demonstrates that you are in touch with reality...
How can you say that I constantly contradict myself? Any statement of truth you make is rendered meaningless by your assertion that there is no ultimate reality.
It looks to me like you are simply projecting your own arbitrariness onto others.
Any statement of truth you make is rendered meaningless by your assertion that there is a god ; looks to me like you're trying to convince yourself of something you don't believe
Dermot is a filthy pagan. That's why he finds God obnoxious. He claims to run an art gallery. I imagine he would find this obnoxious...
"Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments."
He doesn't realize that as long as he is in denial of ultimate reality, he is bowing before his gods. He actually thinks he's an atheist. There are no atheists. Their god is the air they breathe. Their god is the food they need to survive. Their god is the clothes they need to wear. Their god is whatever satisfies their flesh. They are pagans through and through.
As has historically been the case. It isn't an unusual thing for idol worshiping pagans to deny the fact that they bow to gods.
You're a Christian hypocrite , I don't believe in god neither do you .
You're pretty judgemental aren't you .....
Matthew 7:1-3King James Version (KJV)
7 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
King James Version (KJV)
Public Domain
You're a hypocrite who does not believe in god or Jesus , if you did you would at least attempt to emulate the teachings on judging others but you're not a Christian or a believer you're a liar and a hypocrite .
You don't understand what you are talking about. I'm a human being. Human beings are innately creatures who exercise judgement. How else can one discern between effective and ineffective? Right and wrong? Short and tall? Little and plenty?
I recognize that my judgement isn't the ultimate judgement. The righteous judge is God, and God is the One Truth that I testify of.
"..shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect? God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged."
Well yes I do know of what I speak also I know the bible better than any Christian on this site .
You're a typical Christian hypocrite as in claiming I don't know what I'm talking about , you should be saying honestly you disagree with your bible as that's what I'm quoting directly from you idiot .
Like all hypocrites you cherry pick what suits you in the bible and ignore how a good Christian is meant to act and behave as you resort to slander ,lying and judging and call yourself a follower of Jesus , really ?
So you use a bible verse as a counter to what fate awaits those such as you who judge others , oh dear 😳
"Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you."
I'm not going to debate scripture with someone who doesn't believe in it. You don't know the bible. You will say anything as long as you think it might be convincing. You don't believe anything you say, that is the nature of your position.
You cannot debate scripture with me as I'm an expert on the bible and it's curious how your mind works as in you won't debate scripture with me because I don't believe , yet you will debate on belief in god with me which I don't believe in either , you are confused aren't you ?
The reason you cannot debate scripture is because you're a hypocrite who is now using the bible to contradict the bible , let me school you once again on the ways a Christian is meant to behave and maybe you should read your bible someday soon .....
Romans 2:1-3
Therefore you have no excuse, everyone of you who passes judgment, for in that which you judge another, you condemn yourself; for you who judge practice the same things. And we know that the judgment of God rightly falls upon those who practice such things. But do you suppose this, O man, when you pass judgment on those who practice such things and do the same yourself, that you will escape the judgment of God?
You are disingenuous. That is my point. You'll say whatever you think people will think is convincing. You don't speak from your own conviction. You aren't going to convince me that you aren't the one who is being wicked. Believe me when I say, the epistle you are quoting from has plenty to say about the things you are doing.
You are trying to tell me that I'm not allowed to practice discernment, despite the fact that discernment is one of the gifts of the spirit. It's ridiculous to think that it is possible for a human being not to judge.
I do not have the authority to condemn you. I engage you hoping that you will find conviction and turn from your wicked ways. That isn't something I can make you do. God is the one who hardens and softens hearts. Some vessels were made for dishonor, and some for honor. This is God's will. If you are a vessel made for dishonor, that is the way God made you. It's ok by me.
I am not the judge. There is only one rightful judge.
I feel no conviction out of your desperate attempt to paralyze me from rebuking you.
No I'm not I'm honest , you're not as you keep proving by changing meanings and terms to suit your ridiculous world view .
I couldn't give a fuck on whether people find my arguments convincing or not and it's remarkable I'm now ' branded ' wicked for disagreeing with you .... there's that judgemental streak again .
I'm glad you agree the teachings of Jesus on judging others are ridiculous , I agree 👌 Maybe that's why you don't even attempt to restrain yourself .
Your closing nonsense about God makes no sense whatsoever
There's that judgement again , so I'm morally very bad and this from a Christian who worships an evil god 👌
You say .... there is a difference between not making sense ..... yes , and you fail to recognise that you make no sense ..... and not making sense to me ...... yes thank you for acknowledging your bullshit makes no sense 👌
I believe in acts being morally good or bad , evil is a word loaded with religious connotations which I reject .
I'm far from disengenous thats your normal position .
People in the civilised world accept others who do not believe in god you're a tyrant who a couple of hundred years ago would have burnt people at the stake for rejecting horseshit .
You prove that a fair proportion of Christians are two faced , lying cowards
I'm pretty sure a couple hundred years ago, If anyone would be burning at the stake, it'd be me. It is not my faith to burn people at the stake. I do not have the faith to burn people at the stake. I call for no one's death.
So what is your standard of "good" and "bad", Mr. Arbitrary atheist?
Nonsense , you claimed you were Catholic yet a follower of the King James Version of the book of bullshit which is the protestants favourite version ; you certainly would have been one of the sheeple who merely follow orders .
My standard of morality is informed by my upbringing and society just like yours ,morality is a construct and is culturally relevant , morality is also ever evolving .
I follow the golden rule and that's good enough for me " Mr Arbitrary Christian "
You don't know what I mean by "catholic". It's obvious.
The King James happens to be an accurate translation that is public domain, accurate in terms of translation, and beautiful when read aloud with competence. Besides that, it also happens to have the largest vocabulary out of any English translations of the bible, and if you can't tell, I'm a big fan of vocabulary. Am I not always pulling out definitions? I digress.
You don't know why I do the things I do. You don't know what I believe. You assume too much to get an accurate impression of anything.
You say I'd be one of the sheeple following orders, but do you not say that morality is a a construct and culturally relevant? You say that morality is ever evolving, and that society and your upbringing inform your standard of morality. Sounds to me like you would actually be the one following orders like the sheeple, not me.
Christian morality has more to do with purifying the heart than it has to do with following an arbitrary list of dos and don'ts. The focus is on God, The Ultimate Reality. That focus allows us to see the idols that may be clouding our hearts and keeping us from being sincere.
The faith is about the relationship, not about the end result or arbitrarily following a formula. You don't understand Christianity, so you despise it. What you don't understand is that the Christian discipline is effective, and helps one to be more scientific in their thinking.
I know based on the lies you believe that this all sounds like nonsense, but that is because you do not believe the truth.
This is why sincerity of faith alone is not enough, but also charity. For without charity, we would never be able to sympathize with someone long enough to hear what it is they are actually about. Without charity, we would not be able to love someone even if we don't understand them, or worse yet, see them as practicing abominable things.
You have to understand, according to the gospels in the bible, Jesus was killed by the religious authorities. It is not very Christian to kill people over religion. You seem to think otherwise, but that is because you believe that simply saying "I am a Christian" makes you a Christian.
I tell you, only God knows the truth. It is not for a man to judge. There is a man laying on the sidewalk with a needle hanging out of his arm, hated by those better off who walk past him, who is ministering to the type of people that few would dare be around. There are people living in the bushes, under bridges, and in the alleys who are shunned and looked at as diseased never do wells who have in fact set themselves apart for the sake of God. God uses people of all types. God even uses you. Whether or not you accept God's sovereignty over all things has no consequence. This is simply how it is.
No I don't because when I was a a Catholic there was only one accepted definition ......
Catholic
ˈkaθ(ə)lɪk/Submit
adjective
1.
of the Roman Catholic faith.
noun
1.
a member of the Roman Catholic Church.
No doubt you possibly have some American version that suits your particular mindset .
The King James Version is not accepted by the Catholic Church as it's translated to fit Anglican theology ; the correct Catholic bible is the Latin Vulgate Bible which I know back to front .its the official bible of the Catholic Church ; so yet again you're lying and merely trolling ....again. .
If what you say about how I define morality is incorrect and morality is not ever evolving how come the morality of god changes from the Old Testament to the new ?
How come it was common place to own slaves in biblical times with Jesus even talking about how slaves should be treated and why do we not enslave people today ... because morality is ever evolving .
So that's two of your arguments destroyed again .
The rest of your babble about god is just you preaching to one who couldn't give a flying fuck about you or your god
Yet, the Orthodox Catholic Church is one of the largest religions on the planet. You might know it as the Eastern Orthodox Church.
You know, the people Jesus railed against the most tended to be people who were supposed to be educated in matters pertaining to scripture and theology. The pharisees knew scripture very well.
I'm not arguing the details of religion to you. You don't respect me as an authority. You are only going to contradict me. You aren't going to contradict me because believe anything you are saying either. You aren't looking to get educated. I already told you, you appear to be arbitrary to me. Obviously, you don't care about combating that impression.
I do believe I already told you that I use King James because it is free domain. I also believe it is a good translation.
But here is a scripture for you, one you will no doubt not receive, being the dog that you are.
"teach no other doctrine, neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do. Now the end of the commandment is charity out of a pure heart, and of a good conscience, and of faith unfeigned: from which some having swerved have turned aside unto vain jangling; desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm. But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully; knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, for whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine; according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, which was committed to my trust."
I couldn't give a fuck what ' brand ' of Catholicism you favour you're a compulsive liar and possibly the sites biggest troll .
Why would I give a fuck about the people Jesus railed against , Jesus approved of slavery , lied several times , disrespected his mother and was involved in theft , he also callled a Caananite woman a dog , now go scurry off to your Anglican version of the bible and look up the relevant passages that you're totally unaware off.
I don't respect you at all you're intellectually inferior , a compulsive liar and a cowardly dog .
You have been caught lying about the version of the bible Catholics favour , you stupidly don't agree that morality is ever evolving which is a fact and no doubt being an idiot never heard of evolutionary morality .
No doubt you will not receive this gift I give you being the cowardly Anglican cur you are ,
Jesus says that he has come to destroy families by making family members hate each other. He has “come not to send peace, but a sword.” Matthew 10:34
Yes you idiot I don't believe in god , you're a cowardly cur and I see everyone on C D has reached the same conclusion on your ridiculously flawed debate .
So liar Catholics now use an Anglican bible and morality is not ever evolving , no defence yet again have you ?
I would say it's a large dick you're chewing on thus your foaming mouth 😂
If I'm so retarded, how come you can't come up with an argument against the existence of ultimate reality without simply shouting, "It's meaningless!"
No, you like to wage proxy battles. You attack religion. You attack scripture. You attack created things. You have no argument against God. That is why you resort to this childish frothing at the mouth.
Look at you labeling me, as if you had any type of discernment whatsoever. You're so dim witted that you claim something defined as being the realest form of reality is non-existent. You can't even come up with a good argument why either. Why you so triggered?
Not if , you are retarded . Let's try again Korzybski pointed out the circularity of many dictionary definitions that's your only argument and it's circular most everyone else has pointed this out to you but to follow an old adage ". One cannot educate pork " 👉🐖
You attack atheism . You attack reason . You attack natural processes .You have no argument for a god . That is why you resort to constant cock sucking as a relief from your torment .
Look at you a liar and hypocrite attempting to hold forth on subjects you know nothing about ; you're well up there with the stupidest individuals on C D .
Realest reality 😂😂😂 what a stupidly typical mangling of the English language by you
You aren't making any sense to me, Dermot. I genuinely perceive you as an arbitrary person. I cannot be upset with you, as you happen to behave in a manner that I expect from someone who is in denial of the ultimate reality. You come off as mentally disturbed to me.
It is very difficult for me to take you seriously enough to be upset with you. I would much rather have meaningful conversation. I'm not sure if you are interested in meaningful conversation. As it stands, I do not see you as individual who has any respect. As before, this is the type of behavior I expect from someone who is in denial of the ultimate reality.
This is how things look to me. It would be a pleasant surprise to see you communicate in a manner that changes my impression of you.
Well yes I am as you cannot address even one argument I've made in a reasonable manner as your dishonesty is dreadful
Let's summarise......
1: You use ultimate and reality and define them separately as if this somehow makes a strong argument ; you then refuse to acknowledge that the accepted definition of ultimate reality from a religious standpoint is god ; you also use ridiculous terms like ' realest reality ' and ' highest authority .
Your argument is merely semantic as you're too cowardly to defend your favoured religion Anglicanism , your dictionary argument is also circular as I've pointed out .....Korzybski pointed out the circularity of many dictionary definitions .... seeing as your a fan of e - prime .
2: You claimed to be a Catholic ( a lie ) you claimed Catholics use the King James Version of the bible ( a lie ) you claimed morality is not nor ever has evolved ( a lie ) you set up three debates on this topic one involving you and your alt account in a private debate .
You banned me from your debate as you're a cowardly dog and finally you refuse to debate the bible because I've corrected you several times on it as you've never read or studied it .
Why would I give a liar any respect you also admitted you're yet another troll you're not worthy of respect
So denial is your game now when cornered , you're the delusional one stating morality is not ever evolving proving how dense you are , also Catholics use the King James Version of the bible proving yet again how stupid you are , also your whole argument is a semantic one which I've destroyed ...... next
And not one defence of your bullshit whys that big mouth ?
Yes a former magician , I still lecture on fine arts , I'm still a member of Mensa and I never claimed I was opening a restaurant you liar .
So tell me is this a battle of who's the most successful or something ?
Why is it when you and fellow Christians cannot fight your corner you resort to attacking ones credentials ?
Let's look at your C V ,
You claimed you were a CEO of a large music company
You claimed you had a published paper countering Evolution that even Dawkins could not refute
You claimed the speed of light was incorrect and you had a paper proving it
You claimed your father owned a fish pond ( I believe this 😂)
You claimed you passed your university exams and recently admitted you failed them
I could go on and on but I will let your apparent jealousy eat you up , I know you think I'm superman I guess that's another belief you didn't reckon on 👌🤗🤗
I'm delighted your jealousy is eating you up , I did warn you 👌
Well Mint and I have exposed your lies on C D several times and I've done so only earlier on this thread .
Return the aid money was a reference to the fact that me and my government have paid for your education and you let us down by failing abysmally in your recent exams
me and my government have paid for you education and you let us down by failing absmyally in your recent exams
1) My government and I.
2) Your education.
3) Abysmally.
How is it possible that you are stupid enough to demonstrate you have absolutely no grasp of your own language during a sentence in which you are attacking someone else's intellect?
The church is Holy and Catholic. Holy means it is Divine, as in "proceeding directly from God", and Catholic meaning it is universal.
Church means "congregation". Congregation means "the act or an instance of congregating or bringing together"
In other words, everyone is a part of the church whether they realize it or not. Universal means "including or covering all or a whole collectively or distributively without limit or exception"
I'm a former catholic so save the lecture , your new buddy Jeffrey detests Catholics as he's a penticostal who claims to speak in tounges ; yous are both equally insane
The Eastern Orthodox church calls themselves catholic. The Roman church calls itself catholic. Both of them are human institutions, and cannot possibly be Catholic. Human institution cannot have universal scope.
Only God can have universal scope. The Holy Catholic Church is the communion we all have with God. The personal relationship you are in denial of.
A human institution calling itself "catholic" does not make this the case. Catholic means "universal", which is defined by merriam-webster as "including or covering all or a whole collectively or distributively without limit or exception" or "present or occurring everywhere" or "existent or operative everywhere or under all conditions"
Clearly the institution in Rome does not fit the criteria of being "catholic". The catholic church is not a human institution, it is an acknowledgement that nothing that was created was created apart from The Word of God.
The pope in Rome carries the title, "vicar of Christ".
"Vicar", according to merriam-webster is "one serving as a substitute or agent"
According to Stong's Concordance, "anti" means "instead of, in return for, over against, opposite, in exchange for, as a substitute for, (b) on my behalf, (c) wherefore, because."
The title, "Vicar of Christ" literally means "anti Christ".
The real "Pope" or "Father" of The Holy Catholic Church is God almighty, the ultimate reality.
I forgive you. Maybe one day you'll come to terms with God. Maybe you won't. It makes little difference to me. You are the one who is going to suffer for it. You have chosen your suffering.
Let your education continue here's your evil god in action ......
“Take your son, your only son – yes, Isaac, whom you love so much – and go to the land of Moriah. Sacrifice him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains, which I will point out to you.” (Genesis 22:1-18)
No doubt if god appeared and asked you to do likewise you would gladly slaughter your own son
I'm not interested in debating scripture with a non-believer. You are only going to use scripture deceitfully. No amount of rebuke is going to satisfy you. Truth has nothing to do with why you hold the opinions you do. You have the opinions you do because you place idols before God.
I perfectly understand the intent of scripture evil god makes his intentions perfectly clear in scripture.
You're not interested in debating scripture with a non - believer but you will debate the god question what a coward you are ; I use scripture truthfully it's you who is deceitful in its use .
You have the opinions you do because you place importance on a fictional supernatural entity to give your sad life meaning
You call me a coward, but you can't even accept God. See, it looks different to me.
I don't care if my life has meaning or not.
You aren't really interested in debating scripture, you are just throwing as much crap against the wall, and trying to see how much of it sticks. I don't want to debate scripture with you, because you are clearly uneducated, and I don't believe you are genuinely interested in learning.
I don't believe in your integrity. That is why I am not interested in debating scripture with you. After all, you can't even come to terms with the concept of God. Scripture is clearly way beyond your level.
That makes no sense where does he become , baptist ,Pentecostal, Anglican or any of the other 30,000 different denominations and of course they're all correct ain't they 🙀
Me a time waster 😂 Proves you're getting sick of me correcting you God freaks .
I own an account and regards intelligible brains I think your debate topic which has the majority totally confused demonstrates you don't poseesss a brain , your recent abysmal failure of your exams speaks volumes
You constantly contradict yourself and I constantly correct you , this is true .
What truth ? Your speculation is now truth ?
You cannot even admit what you call ' ultimate reality ' is what I and you call god which I still don't believe in , your confusion is typical of the confused mindset of religious maniacs on C D
Another debate all aimed at me , how delightful ☺️ It's gives me great pleasure go see you and your ' crew ' of fellow believers constantly post up debates telling everyone who doesn't believe in god that they're a moron , why do you keep posting debates on the topic atheists don't believe in a god or gods you idiot , who are you trying to convince ?
Regards branding me a moron I care not for the inane babblings of a Ghanaian clown who recently failed his entrance exams for a second rate university , obviously prayerr didn't help you on that one 👌☺️
Okay this is true ....cos he wasn't well but examiners don't care....wasn't that bad too some B,C,D,E range
so this
for a second rate university
Yes but where you get it wrong is failing semester exams; never. you'd be surprised, i do more than regular on campus and online(alone 14courses divided over the months till next year).....more than every in class, 99.9&#xpo;ssible the whole country and will be in top 10 if whole world ranked...i give myself 5yrs.....enough honesty and boasting ....
How long does it take royalties to perfect climbing up and down long stairs majestically before they are finally ready to get to the top successfully....
Count their falls....people wouldn't be asking on the day of the party....all they care is the monarch can walk well majestically and he is at the top(the target).
If you were responsible for decoding some really bad grammar of a North Korean and America's survival depended on it………… it will be equal to not being warned at all.
I can imagine you having a good laugh about some bad grammar at work with ya fellows you when you realise only too late that 60 percent of companies including yours have been cyber attacked in America only to be followed by some nukes in the midst of the state's confusion.
Good job saving 40
percent.
Do you decode words of kids learning to talk with unclear pronounciations??(regular simple question).
No, typically I cut people who deserve it some slack. But when their main goal is just to tell me I'm an idiot then they better start off by making everything crystal clear.
