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Exactly this argument is whether or not black people (or African Americans, whichever floats your boat) are animals, and if this is what the question is asking then yes this is correct, they are part of the species Homo Sapiens as are all of us. Is this the type of animal we are referring to? I say this question is in need of some clarification, are we saying that black people are sub-human (wrong because they are the same species as us, see process of speciation in biology, we are the same species) or if black are part of the animal kingdom?
1. I love racist debates almost as much as religious debates. Only problem is I'm in the majority on these ones which isn't as much fun.
2. Sulith's knowledge of the world consists of internet sites that have viruses, so everyone taking it personal, don't, he's a moron.
3. Humans are all one race. This has been proven through everything from DNA, to Evolution, to the fact when two different color people have sex a kid is born.
4. As humans we are all part of the group of biological things that breathe and eat and don't have exoskeletons called animals.
5. All crime rates or whatever else Sulith is prattling on about has a direct correlation to education. Education is a social problem, not a racial problem. If the US were 18% caucasion, and the majority of these caucasions lived in the inner city with no positive influences, little access to education, racism, and 200 years of slavery hanging over their heads, 46% of the prison population would be... tada, caucasion.
People are animals. And if point 5 were true, Sulith would be a black guy saying whitey is demonstratably inferior.
White men rape, murder, steal and forge. Most men that break into the national security computers are white. Bundy was white. He murdered and raped people.
Alright, not only blacks do that. There are whites and all sorts of people that hurt others, just look at English and American history. And just because someone does something wrong it does not mean that they are an animal. Blacks are just the same as us, the only difference is the skin color.
Whether people do things like has nothing to do with the colour of your skin. I have seen plenty of white men or woman do things like that also. Idiots do that! No matter what colour your skin is.. You can be an idiot and do it!!
Why are black people the main ones that get accused of this?! White people do it to...Any other sex addict, predator regardless of whether they are black, white, blue or pink it wont matter!!!
Why are you on a debate site and you clearly have no clue about logic, or facts or history or basically any measure by which one would ever win or add anything of value to a debate. Blacks are the only people that murder? That's an insane absurd as are you. Kill yourself please..
The percentage of crimes committed by blacks is huge. lots of them don't have work and they are ok with living on donations from government. I pay taxes and this money goes on feeding blacks that just don't want to work. That's not fair!
if there not animals, then what are they, plants? everyone is an animal, you breath, you dont create your own food, and you reproduce, therefore, your an animal. imbeciles
why blacks are animals he should explain the reason why he said that if anyone think he / she is special should not travel to any black country for they are animals
OK, when I say animals in here I mean NON-Homosapien.
According to scientist the cell/DNA called FYA is not found in the black race and is found in all other races. The only other things that don't have it are animals.
Also, nigros have prominent eyes, iris and black and the orbits are large. Blacks eyes often have a yellowish sclerotic coat over them like that of a gorilla.
DO NOT REMOVE THIS.
Or it shows how cowardly people (mods) are of the truth.
According to scientist the cell/DNA called FYA is not found in the black race and is found in all other races. The only other things that don't have it are animals.
Which means nothing. Evolutionary relationships imply that diverging populations do so because they gain traits that separate them. All you've suggested is that we descend from Africa.
Also, nigros have prominent eyes, iris and black and the orbits are large. Blacks eyes often have a yellowish sclerotic coat over them like that of a gorilla.
Which is irrelevant because we share no ancestry with gorillas. We and gorillas share a common ancestor.
Or it shows how cowardly people (mods) are of the truth.
The truth is that you are a negro. We all have bloodlines that originate from a tribe in africa, the same tribe. We are all "black" and cannot escape that anymore than we can escape the fact that we are primates, and mammals. We simply look different due to population schisms over millennia. Discriminating against black people makes no sense because it's entirely superficial.
which is irrelivent because we share no common ancestry with the gorilla. We and Gorillas share a Common Ancestor
I'm sorry I actually agree with your position but, what the actual fuck is this? Your "argument" was making a factually untrue statement and then immediately contradicting yourself? Please tell me you didn't do this on prepose.
And to your last point. Your right that we all come from the African continent Ancestrally but we are not all Negros, allow me to explain, there are three races of humanity.
Negroids/Negros people who have darker colored skin and who's Ancestors evolved on the African mainland
Caucazoids/Caucasians people who have lighter skin (whites and Hispanics) and who's Ancestors evolved in the Caucasus mountain ranges of Mesopotamia,
And Mongoloids Asians, Pacific Islanders, and "Native" Americans. Ancestral place of origin (within Africa) unknown.
No one really knows what color Adam and Eve really were. Besides if your trying to take this view in a biblical sense, you would know that all people are related down the line somewhere. And all men and women descended from Adam and Eve, its just that we all adapted and evolved to fit into the environment that surrounds us.
Cain was the first man to commit a murder and god gave him a mark to show people that he was bad and cursed.
This became the first black person.
No, it doesn't work that way. Firstly, the bible reflects the stories of man, written down by man, thousands of years ago. It has no truth to it, and it just messes up your head to believe something to be infallible that was written three thousand years ago by ancient, primitive man.
Secondly, you can take a drop of blood from any two humans, no matter the race and find that they are distantly related. This implies a common ancestry, and if you take it further you find, like I said before, that all of the modern races came out of Africa.
I have much knowledge of the Mormon religion and I find by far they make the most sense.
There bible came from a thing called the "Golden Plates". The translator: Joseph Smith an uneducated farm boy. Tell me how can someone right something so big without any education?
Anyway, he explained what the golden plates looked like and said there were many many more of them but know one knows where they are.
Just recently "Golden Plates" have been found in Bulgaria well rather an old man donated them to a Museum he found them while working in a trench.
Why I am pointing this out is because, I am saying God and religions are real.
Now that I have provided evidence that Cain was the first Negro where is yours saying he is not and that the bible is a hoax?
I'm sorry but I have a family history book dating all the way back around Napoleans time and I have all European decent none have which have been mixxed with niggers, chicks, or muslims.
I have much knowledge of the Mormon religion and I find by far they make the most sense.
There bible came from a thing called the "Golden Plates". The translator: Joseph Smith an uneducated farm boy. Tell me how can someone right something so big without any education?
I really don't know what to say to this. The two do not correlate. For example, the bible is very long but it was written by many uneducated people. If you've ever read a blog, you can see how much uneducated people type. What exactly is the point?
Just recently "Golden Plates" have been found in Bulgaria well rather an old man donated them to a Museum he found them while working in a trench.
These plates date back to 600 B.C.
The small manuscript, which is more than two and a half millennia old, was discovered 60 years ago in a tomb uncovered during digging for a canal along the Strouma River in southwestern Bulgaria.
These are some golden plates. They are not the golden plates that Joseph Smith claimed to have found. Further, the theology of the Book of Mormon is erroneous. There is no genetic relationship between the Israelites and the ancient North American tribes which suggests the connection that the book postulates. Further, black skin is not caused by a curse, it's caused by increased melanin production, which itself was caused by an environment which had increased solar radiation.
Why I am pointing this out is because, I am saying God and religions are real.
The evidence you provided doesn't vindicate the theology, and even if it did that is a far cry from vindicating a god. Science works through small steps backed by evidence along the way, or great advances met with overwhelming evidence. It does not work based on unwarranted assumptions with minimal evidence, which is what you are making.
Now that I have provided evidence that Cain was the first Negro where is yours saying he is not and that the bible is a hoax?
This article is at your level. It gives a basic overview of the evidence which leads us to our African origins. The bible was written only around three-thousand years ago, along with more modern documents which are less than 1900 years old. Human beings have existed for tens of thousands of years before the bible, and there exist religions like Hinduism which are older than Judaism. Therefore the bible is not special, but a mere human creation.
I'm sorry but I have a family history book dating all the way back around Napoleans time and I have all European decent none have which have been mixxed with niggers, chicks, or muslims.
I said your great (times 800) grandparents. This means over 800 generations back, at least 12000 years ago. Genetic evidence places us as all related to ancient Africans. You are a Negro, my boy. You should accept and embrace your black roots.
You are a Negro, my boy. You should accept and embrace your black roots.
No I am not. You still haven't proved it. You can't and never will.
Genetic evidence may be close but it still does not mean we are all African. First humans were put here on earth by God in the middle eastern areas. Not Africa.
Also, I said in my argument that the plates found were SIMILAR to the ones Joseph Smith had. He also said there were many more out there but no one knew there whereabouts. Also, those plates were found in Bulgaria around 600 BC. Tell me what people are doing all the way up there when you say people originated from Africa?
We came from Adam and Eve who are white. There children were white except for Cain. I have come from the 'white' side of the family. Also, Noah's ark was not to far from the time Adam and Eve were first put on the earth. In the bible it tells you the genealogy all the way down to Noah and everyone on that boat was NOT at all related to Cain.
It also tells me throughout the Bible that the evil city's of men (Laminates) skin turned to dark colors. When they became good their skin turned lighter.
Since you are a materialist I would love to see what you throw at this?
Also, I said in my argument that the plates found were SIMILAR to the ones Joseph Smith had. He also said there were many more out there but no one knew there whereabouts. Also, those plates were found in Bulgaria around 600 BC. Tell me what people are doing all the way up there when you say people originated from Africa?
So do you think that humans came into existence when? Does it surprise you that humans migrate to different areas?
Genetic evidence may be close but it still does not mean we are all African. First humans were put here on earth by God in the middle eastern areas. Not Africa.
Says whatever religion you follow, you do not know for a fact that religion is true. You believe it to be true, however without evidence it cannot be factual.
Genetic evidence may be close
So where is your proof that is closer to being true than this? A book written thousands of years ago?
Noah's ark
You honestly believe something impossible ...?
It also tells me throughout the Bible that the evil city's of men (Laminates) skin turned to dark colors. When they became good their skin turned lighter.
Ok so if I go tanning outside I am becoming evil? ( Just trying to use your logic )
No I am not. You still haven't proved it. You can't and never will.
You can't prove you are right, still haven't proved it. You can't and never will.
Evil dose not stem from religion. Evil simply twists religion to fit its rhetoric thus making itself look good. Like a wolf in sheeps clothing. It's a propaganda tactic as old as religion it's self but evil predates Religion.
Not everyone is "negro" if I remember Adam and Eve were white?
We all came out of Africa from a black tribe. That's what decades of research backs up, along with years of genetic sequencing and comparing our mitochondrial DNA.
Who said I don't have freedom of speech on this website?
The "Terms of Use." You did read them before clicking "I Agree" right?
How am I saying from the FYA that we descend from Africa? People FROM Africa don't have FYA whites/asians/mexicans DO.
Because heredity works in a way that a new gene or mutation is passed along to future generations. Our oldest living ancestors, the Africans, wouldn't have it because when they migrated out towards Asia the migrating tribe got the mutation and spread it to those tribes which descended from them. You simply reverse the process by cataloguing mutations unique among races, and their relationships, and you find descendants by finding that tribe which has traits shared by everyone, but has no traits that the other tribes do not have (correcting for the most recent mutations gathered in the generations which passed since the tribes diverged).
Animals do not contain FYA either.
Again, evolutionary relationships.
With the Eyes, i'm saying if anyone believes that we came from 'monkeys' it was negros that came from them..not white people.
We are both monkeys, you and I. I thought this was common knowledge. Do you have two pectoral (mammary) muscles? A (vestigial) tailbone? A skeleton evolved for bipedal walking? Three sets of teeth? Opposable thumbs? Fingernails and toenails? Colour vision? You're a primate, if you answered yes. A primate is just a branch off of monkeys. However, we didn't come from modern monkeys, more like ancient monkeys millions of years ago.
White people aren't separate, or special. Not unless you're trying to tell me you have none of those features I listed just a moment ago.
So I guess what your telling me is that you are an atheist?
If Africans are what we are from then why are they not more advanced as we? (whites)
What does religion have to do with this? Evolution doesn't work that way, it simply causes divergence in populations. Also, advancement isn't measured in technology, in evolutionary terms it is about fitness towards an environment. Fitness is a measure of survivability.
So your telling me you think evolution is a fact and whoever does not believe that is a idiot?
You cant just go around in a debate and say that like it has been proven to the world.
Evolution is a fact, and it has been proven to the world. It amazes me that people don't understand that. Maybe you don't realise it, but evolution is as established as the Earth being a sphere, that the Earth orbits the sun, and gravity and so on. If you're questioning evolution and the relationship of races, your understanding of the world is no doubt based upon centuries-old misinformation.
Why haven't monkeys "mutated" yet? Why did it only happen back a couple thousand years ago (Like you say) and still not happening today?
Mutation happens so regularly that we don't take note of it except for pronounced cases. Mutation rates can vary between once every thousand or so base pairs to every million or so. It depends upon environment. Typically every child born has dozens of unique mutations due to the error rate of the DNA proof-reading mechanism. It's a very good mechanism but our genomes are tens of millions of base pairs, so even a small error rate leads to common mutations. The same holds true for monkeys and every other organism.
Also, this wasn't thousands of years ago, ancient monkeys split off into the group that would be primates many millions of years ago. We're dealing with vast time-scales here.
Evolution has not and never will be proven you cannot prove it.
Religion has everything to do with this because, religion is what tells me that evolution is false. I also know my self by just looking at it's so called 'evidence'.
If you want me to be more specific I'll say Darwin's theory of evolution?
So tell me what has been genetacally altered in the past 1000 years?
I think 1000 years would be noticably. If they're happening soo much like you say?
And before you provide me with any websites sighting 'evidence' don't give me any government funded bullshit sites.
That single article is just the tip of the iceberg and yet it clearly demonstrates beyond a shadow of a doubt that evolution is a fact. This is why you're a denialist, in the face of reality you are basically saying the earth is flat.
Religion has everything to do with this because, religion is what tells me that evolution is false. I also know my self by just looking at it's so called 'evidence'.
Religion is dogma, speculation and faith. It has nothing to do with knowledge. No wonder your image of life is so completely wrong. You believe that skin colour reflects magical curses, you deny evolution, and you can't seem to grasp heredity. This is all because you chose the religious path instead of the reality path.
If you want me to be more specific I'll say Darwin's theory of evolution?
We're talking about the modern synthesis. Darwin's theory of evolution pre-dates DNA and heredity.
So tell me what has been genetacally altered in the past 1000 years?
Thanks so much for showing how low the human race can fall. Perhaps you should consder how you would feel if someone called you an animal. If you don't care then at least think of all the words that have hurt you over the years and how that felt.
If you are going to post, make sure your information is credible. There is no such thing as a FYA cell or FYA DNA. It is an allele from the FY gene. Your argument should be removed because it does not make sense...how do I know this...I am a Biology major. And FYA is found in some groups of African Americans.
I'd have more respect for you if you just admitted that you are racist because you like feeling excepted by a group of white supremacists, and that your hatred really isn't logical but stems from a silly primitive need to belong.
The fact is, there is absolutely no general difference from one human to another. The only thing that separates us are social constructs.
Quit hiding behind your quasi logic. Racists only recruit from the weak, and you don't need to be part of it.
Were i live if a black or hispanic man says something about their racial power, the police probably brutally beat/murder him. Im not really sure were you're coming from on that one. No voices are ignored here. I personally pray for your soul. God has a very special place for your soul. Here's a hint: it's really hot......
Well if you look at the past white people don't feel as threatened for good reason, when have you last heard of a bunch of racist blacks beating white people up. Groups such as the Ku Klux Klan and other groups have been very blatant in expressing their opinions about "niggers" (for effect not meant to offend), so naturally they may be a tad bit more aggressive
You are being downvoted because your a NAZI!!! If it hadn't been for you walking around with ya' head up your ass, maybe you could have learnt something from the histories from WW2!
you are foolish and i think you should go bck to school and get educated..punk.. yo disgusting and u make me vomit..you are really an embarrassment to the human nature....idiot
Yes, I'm aware that technically ALL humans are animals, but the contemptible initial argument posted by the debate creator made it very clear what is meant by "animals" in this instance and it isn't "member of the Kingdom Animalia".
Yes, I'm aware that technically ALL humans are animals, but the contemptible initial argument posted by the debate creator made it very clear what is meant by "animals" in this instance and it isn't "member of the Kingdom Animalia".
Who cares? White people used to think Blacks had an extra muscle in our thighs, as well as tails over our butts. I'm not gonna' get all riled up over bullshit. You shouldn't either. Just don't try to sneak up on me.
I cant believe people single out races and makes judgments about other people. My granny always says "You have to look in the mirror and judge yourself like a stranger would before you can judge someone else." Yes i know we are all animals. But doe sour color decide who's more animal and who isn't? Ummm I think not, Ugh i strongly dislike racists people.
Ok well if you call me racist I go by this theory.
I hate niggers not black people.
Black people are the nice people who have JOBS and live in Africa or migrated from there WITHIN these past 5 years.
Also, for the terms of saying they act like animals (which is not the argument here but i do believe in it).
(Based on a Video during the Rodney King Riots)
A white man is fixing a road in a negro neighbor that is NOT Ghetto. This man is drug out of his tractor by 20+ black men AND women and is beaten until he is retarded. Is this not animal/disgusting type behavior?
If you don't know what Rodney King was all about here it is:
Rodney King is black man who was in a high-speed chase with the LA police department. Going over 100 MPH, he had 3 other people in the car. The car eventually stops after the chance lasting almost for an hour. The men step out of the car the 3 that were with him went face down right after they get out of the car like they are suppose to. But Rodney King (the driver) refuses to get down (he was DUI of drugs) and is brought to the ground by several police officers but he tries to get up. So the police do what they are trained to do they hit his ARMS and LEGS with there night-sticks or clubs until he stays down but he still refuses to and actually tries to swing at one of the police.
The police were charged with Police Brutality. They went to court the charges were dismissed on them because, they were doing what they were suppose to do.
In the major black parts of the LA community riots starting going on because of this and whites who were in the area were beaten until death. Can you picture those things as being human beings?
If a man is driving over 100 MPH down a high-way risking hundreds of peoples lives because he doesn't want to get caught by the cops he deserved to be beaten.
A white man is fixing a road in a negro neighbor that is NOT Ghetto. This man is drug out of his tractor by 20+ black men AND women and is beaten until he is retarded. Is this not animal/disgusting type behavior?
Your reasoning is based upon grouping people by skin colour and not actions. It makes as much sense as saying "A man wearing a white uniform was drug out and beaten until he became retarded by twenty men wearing black uniforms, ergo anyone wearing a black uniform is an animal."
We are all genetically related, and our divergence into races happened so recently that the differences are superficial. We are like breeds of cattle, or pigeon. Therefore discriminating based upon skin colour misses the point entirely. It's like discriminating against blond people, or men with blue eyes.
It makes as much sense as saying "A man wearing a white uniform was drug out and beaten until he became retarded by twenty men wearing black uniforms, ergo anyone wearing a black uniform is an animal."
Actually no it really doesn't because all belong to a different family.
If you want to use that metaphor may I use this one?
the popular STAR test in Schools (at least in California) and drug test. It asks you what your race is. I always put white because I am. And when I used to take those test I always had "Above Average" as results.
I did some research showing that all other races except for asian how "Below Average" Scores.
So now this is where I use your metaphor.
I put I'm wearing a white T-Shirt. I recieve good scores ETC.
The state of california is going to look at the racial factor, oh sorry, I mean't "Clothing Factor" and say that people wearing Brown/Black/and Tan clothing are "Below Average". So then they are going to majority of the schools that have dark clothing wearers and have them taken over by government programs.
Your arguement is rediculous as I have just pointed out. Don't don't give me any shit arguements please?
White people were put here on the earth by Jesus. The theory of evolution applies to blacks. Thank you Darwin.
It's like discriminating against blond people, or men with blue eyes.
There is a huge difference between racism and discrimination.
Actually no it really doesn't because all belong to a different family.
You didn't read the full paragraph. I explained in it that we are all related. Also, we ARE in the same family, Hominidae.
There is a huge difference between racism and discrimination.
Both are purely superficial.
Your arguement is rediculous as I have just pointed out. Don't don't give me any shit arguements please?
White people were put here on the earth by Jesus. The theory of evolution applies to blacks. Thank you Darwin.
Jesus wasn't white, even from a theological (read: BS) position you have no support that he brought white people over, and finally, we all come from Africa.
they are not you racist monster!!!!! How could you say that??????? The only way they could be considered animals is because they are mamals- and so are the rest of us!!!!!
I think the title should be: Are Blacks Animals? then people wouldn't get such a wrong idea about you. Unless you want to give them that idea.
No, Blacks are not animals it's as simple as that a suggestion of the sort is just wrong and if you're going to suggest they are just consider the fact that the only thing that really makes us different is culture and colour. If they are animals then so are we.
No, they are not. They are the exact same as white, just with a different skin color. Some of you say the steal and rob. We all do that too, you just dont care when we do it.
why would blacks be animals? just because they are dark colored and a different color doesnt mean that they are different.every living person on the planet is techinically an animal, but that doesnt mean that every light colored person is superior except for blacks. there is no superior race on this world. everyone is the same on this planet.so if you think your so superior, then go live on another planet.
Firstly i wud lyk 2 say that the person who came up with this topic is the one who is an ANIMAL... coz he/she is insultin God's work. i believe God didnt create any race animals,if it were so, he wud hav let blcks move on four legs while others on two.. May God 4give those who think blcks are animals.. luv you al
I think whoever put this up is a genius, i'm still pissing myself thinking about it. Look white people, racist white people, i know a lot of u r annoyed at Obama's appointment, but some of u helped make it happen. For the blacks that don't know what i'm talking about, keep an eye and ear out for the amount of open racism that a lot of white people now practise, as a direct result of Obama's appointment.
A lot of white people like to hide behind intellectual superiority when making statements like this, do not be disturbed. If all blacks are "animals", then all whites/Caucasians are "criminals"! If that argument has been used before i apologize, but it still holds true; irrespective.
Just to clarify my point about the open racism for blacks of late from whites who daren't have the guts before Obama's appointment. Look at the 15 year old boy who ordered all blacks get out of a mall in America. That was his white sensitivity being pushed to the limit. Fact is, most whites can only claim superiority racially, therefore they refer to that whenever they are fully tested.
actually that's called cruel, ofcourse they are not even if they were black people they are still humans like us. Color doesn't change anything in-which the personality does
Not at all. There are civilized African(s) (Americans) just as much as there are civilized European Americans (white people). You can't just assume a whole race of people are animals. (in the behavioral sense)
black people are normal just like everyone else. what makes them differnet to us apart from there appereance? what is the differnce between any race? apart from apperance NOTHING. we are all people. I sometimes feel ashamed because of what our race has done to Black people or any other race that has been discriinated against. for over 300 years they were tortured because they were different, not because they were bad. and just to tell people who think they are we all originated from countries like africa and asia.
i think the guy who wrote this is some kind of lonely person and wanting to get some kind of massive reaction from people like black people would start angrly defend themselves the guy just wanted reaction its obvious to answer ur question do u know black people were in this earth first and all the other races including whites came from black race so if u think blacks were animals all the races r animals so if u think blacks were chickens u would be the wonderful egg that came from the inside. i hope this answers u question but i have to give u credit for trying to get reaction.don't have to angry to get ur point across just need to be smart.
Blacks are not animals, if you're talking about them as mammals then yes they are, but that wouldn't just be black people that would be all people and I really hope you are talking about them as mammals because if not you are an extremely racist piece of shit who I suggest should look into joining Westboro Baptist and/or the KKK.
Technically,they are.But so is any other race.But in an offensive,racial standard,they aren't.I'm not trying to assume anything,but because of the fact you only included blacks in this,sounds like you're using it in a racial term.I'm sorry,but I really don't feel the need of having respect for the person who made this debate.