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Cheers! Jeers!
Debate Score:12
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Breaking That Padlock and Taking Down the Stars and Bars!

If someone or a group were to break the padlock holding the Confederate flag to the pole at the State Capitol in South Carolina and took down the flag, would you cheer or jeer? 

Cheers!

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Jeers!

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1 point

i find it ironic that the most recognizable symbol for slavery needs to be CHAINED down so it doesn't "get away"

how funny is that.

now it takes a super majority in SC to change anything about that memorial ... so if it were to be destroyed (not suggesting such a thing, just follow the logic) then it would take a super majority to re-create it.

would it not?

Side: Cheers!
2 points

II can only compare this with the Eureka Stockade Rebellion flag, the Southern Cross, that represents the fight that miners had with the authorities in 1854 over democratic rights. This flag is still seen and flown and is a symbol of our history and a part of how Australia came to be what it is today.

The Confederate flag, I presume, denoted the unity of the Southern States in forming a Confederacy prior to the Civil War. Like the Southern Cross, it remains today as a symbol of that period of history and in the USA a memorial to the time when America became united through a War that cost so many many lives.

Side: Jeers!
Jace(5222) Disputed
1 point

The Confederacy did not exist prior to the Civil War, at least not for any significant period of time. Basically, they confederated to oppose the north leading into the Civil War. They confederated to preserve the institution of slavery which was more integral to their economy than it was in the North. The Confederate flag does not represent a united America; it represents the division that lead into the civil war and the racist ideology of the side that lost. It has subsequently been used to commonly represent white supremacy.

Side: Cheers!
Astac(242) Disputed
2 points

The Civil war was not about slavery, and the north thought the same way as those in the south about the blacks, so racism existed on both sides of the border. From reading what you wrote, I bet you believe that Lincoln freed the slaves . The Confederate battle flag does not represent division, it represents unity. And it does not represent white Supremacy

Side: Jeers!
1 point

As far as I have read it appears that it was the revolution in 1776-1778 that created the US in the first place and because that event did not resolve the issue of whether the US would have a central government or be a confederation of states it was the Civil War nearly a hundred years later that decided the outcome. The states that sided with a central government became the North and those who opposed became the Confederacy or the South. The end of the Civil War did determine the issue of slavery, though the way I read it, it was the unity of the US that was at stake and the fundamental issue of why they went to war.

Side: Jeers!
1 point

The Confederate Battle Flag is an historical symbol viewed with hatred by those people who make themselves victims of past injustices and refuse to consider themselves Americans. Rather than take the opportunities for self advancement that this country provides they whine about their lot in life and use all their energy sustaining that victimhood.

Side: Jeers!
1 point

The Confederate Battle Flag is an historical symbol viewed with hatred by those people who make themselves victims of past injustices and refuse to consider themselves Americans.

I am an American who is not in any way a victim of past injustices, and I hate the Stars'N'Bars.

But go ahead, spout more nonsense.

Side: Cheers!
Westsail(40) Clarified
1 point

Typical liberal, judging American historical events by their perverted definition of what is right and just. Quite frankly you may have been born here but you don't come off as an American, you are a Modern Progressive Liberal.

Side: Cheers!