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CD Members: Should we Create a 'Formal' Section?
CD Members: Should we Create a 'Formal' Section?
The idea here is to promote a separate section/debate format in addition to the current: (1) Formal [new] (2) Informal [old/current]
Now, (1) would be Moderated by other CD members who frequent the Formal section, intended on approaching more Academic-level/type debate as is seen on Quora. (2) would be essentially what we have on CD as of present. Each domain would have their own code of conduct, ranging from sophisticated to open (i.e. potentially quite unsophisticated).
Practically, this could be implemented by the construction of a 'Home' Thread to the Formal section, which lays down ground rules as well as provides links to all other Formal debates/threads that are created. Formal threads will adopt a symbol to distinguish them as such, for instance: [F] or [Formal]. Now, a 'Join List' thread shall be created in which all members interested in participating in the Formal option will 'sign' their name up. Then, upon the construction of such a debate, it should be made Private to the specified list of members and opened up to a pool of Third Party Moderators from the Formal section list. If members of the Formal section 'ally' themselves, this will be very easy to accomplish.
As for the refereeing, if a member uses overt Ad Hominem, such as "You are truly a f'cking idiot. That position is so retarted I'm at a loss for words--I'm simply in awe of your mountainous stupidity", then they will receive a warning, first. Then, if it persists 'x' times, the member will be banned. Actually, one could be allotted 'x' fouls before fouling out of a particular Thread, as well as a running total for the Formal section as a whole (which would be larger allotted foul count, call it 'y'). Once a person reaches 'y', they will be suspended from the Formal section for 'z' standard time interval (to be determined--e.g. 1 month, ect). If 'p' suspensions occur, then such a member will become permanently banned. Also, this will apply to 'trolling', multiple alt-accounts in a single Thread (or even generally), ect. ect.
This will provide a domain in which members interested in engaging more academic-type debate will be able to do so without fear of having the Thread becoming 'trolled', or otherwise devolve into a completely counter-productive state.
I don't know if it would work but it sounds good. One way to restrict entry into formal debate could be to only allow people with 100+ points to their name (or some other number) to enter, so that new alt accounts aren't immediately permitted.
We would have to see but it sounds good. This would restrict people excon from gaining points by trolling or flaming people with legitimate arguments. However, you would need a vote count to say if the troller was actually trolling people, because one person shouldn't have the ability to give another a foul for winning an argument and the like.
I would love a formal debating section and any breaking of the rules one knows exactly what to expect
Quora used to be great but has gone truly backward now as it’s gone absolutely P C crazy , while I totally agree with its rulings on personal attacks one is now given warning for naming and criticizing politicians , people in the media and certain historical figures ,
1: I received warnings for claiming Muhammad was attracted to children and I used Islam’s sacred books to back my claims up which made it more annoying
2: I also received a warning for saying Hillary Clinton was a nasty person
3 : I received a warning for saying Mormons buy special underwear to ward away evil influences, which is also a fact
Quora has gone to far stating a truth and backing it up can still lead to a warning so as to say the hurt feelings of some members
There you go again throwing allegations about without one shred of proof .
You detest Jews and being a fan of Marx and Engels totally supported their hatred of blacks who they both said were “ low niggers “ , no one takes what looney like you says seriously
You’re the stupid one as again you fail to comprehend simple statements as in what I actually said regarding Quora as opposed to what your fevered mind thinks I said , in your idiotic worldview it’s “ racist “ to call Hillary Clinton a nasty woman ; I knew you were as thick as two short planks but that’s a disservice to short planks everywhere
So you’re annoyed yet again , go away you peadophile
You’re the stupid one as again you fail to comprehend simple statements as in what I actually said regarding Quora
I understand perfectly. You are accusing Quora of being "PC crazy" because it is unhappy with the racist nature of your posts. You did a very similar thing to me yesterday when I pointed out your racial views are extreme far right. Instead of trying to figure out why your views might be offending people, you instead attack the people who are offended by them. That doesn't make us stupid. It just makes you a Nazi.
I'm flattered, Antrim. Usually you reserve this favourite word of yours (i.e. "filth") exclusively for describing blacks and Muslims. What a great honour it is to know that in your glorious resurrection of the third reich I am to be placed into the gas chamber right beside them.
Your intense hatred of everything and everybody different from yourself drips from every poisonous word you write. It's pathetic. You literally would be doing humanity a favour if you killed yourself.
Hilarious nonsense again from the Marxist bigot who only yesterday praised Marx and Engels for calling blacks niggers because if Abraham Lincoln could do it so could they and you
You hate Jews and have admitted it also you detest blacks whom you also call “ niggers “ yet everyone else is the racist 🙀
Now go ahead and do as always downvote my posts so no one else can read the truth about you peadophile
No lies on my part you psycho , you admitted comrades Marx and Engels were absolutely correct to call blacks niggers because Abraham Lincoln did so and now you’re all butt hurt because you’re exposed lying again 🙀
Yes no doubt you’re go for “ popcorn “ leave the kids alone will you ?
Dermot, you literally can't even spell paedophile. You are an angry Irish idiot who is throwing any and every accusation you can think of in my direction for the simple reason that you lack the character required to deal with losing an argument.
You are embarrassingly desperate to upset me, but illustrating to everybody how pathetic and childish you are is very unlikely to achieve your desired result.
🙀 Oh dear the spelling Nazi is about again 🤪 I’m not “ accusing “ you I’m stating a fact , you’re a prize cabbage who has yet to win an argument on C D
You are embarrassingly desperate to avoid anyone reading the truth about you which is why like the blubbering pervert you are you resort to your usual childish downvoting
Don't forget that Ireland has a long history of producing hateful, crazed white nationalist terrorists just like Dermot. He was probably making pipe bombs before he could even ride a bike. Fertiliser in one hand, Farley's Rusk in the other.
Say the pervert Nom using yet another alt account , you hate blacks , Mexicans , Jews and the Irish , everyone knows this about you already so what’s your point ?
Lol. I have little interest in your crazed conspiracy theories, Dermot. Put on an extra sheet of tinfoil if you're worried.
you hate blacks , Mexicans , Jews and the Irish
Thanks for letting me know. The only one of those groups I have even mentioned is the Irish. Personally, I love blacks, Mexicans and Jews. I'm not particularly fussed about the Irish, but only because most of them are drunken tea leaves who would rob their own grandma for their next fix of smack.
what’s your point ?
My point is that I'm genetically superior to you. That's why I own your country.
Oh shut up you homosexual. How can you love an entire race of people? There are a lot of great blacks, jews, and mexicans. There are also a lot of them that are ass hole garbage. If you where really about "equality" you would realize that every race has both great people and scum and everything in between.
Say the English twat who worships every word Hair lip “ Harriet “ says regarding a conspiracy theory , there’s that “ logic “ tripping you up yet again you English twat 👌😂😂😂
Incorrect you’ve called blacks niggers , you said Jews were scum and Mexicans were dogs so you’re hatred of the Irish is just keeping with your Marxist views
No you’re not , I’ve thrashed you in every debate so far and your anger and downvoting is your only resource left 👌
You still don’t know what a Republic is , there’s that English retardation again 👌🤪🤪🤪
do you even know there’s a country called the Republic of Ireland you stupid English cunt ?
Lol. Is that the half we gave back? Half of your country is owned by us because we are your intellectual, physical and genetic superiors.
Amusing that you would call anybody else stupid, given that Ireland has a WORLD CLASS reputation for producing retards who literally can't tell the difference between left and right.
Says the English twat who believes a Dutch spastic called hair lip “ Harriet “ has the real beef on 9 / 11 and groveling like a dog addresses him as “ doctor “ 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
You never had an “ intellectual “ thought in your life you English twat , you think a Dutch “ engineer “ with a hair lip and a wig has the “ real beef “ on 9 / 11 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Say the English imperialist Marxist , my you are mixed up 🤪
Intellectual as in you never heard of the Republic of Ireland 👌😂😂😂
Physical as in you’re a paedophile ...... ok you got me there 👌😂
Genetic superior 😳 but you and your fellow English conspiraciy theorists crawl on your knees to Hair lip “ Harriet “ the Dutch con man who has the real beef on 9 / 11 😂😂
Genetic superiors 😂😂😂
You English have a reputation for producing prize perverts like you 👻👻👻
He’s also a convicted peadophile a fellow member put the charges to him last year and he predictably fled ...... again
Recently I destroyed his ill advised Marxist debate and he whined like a baby and disappeared for a month or so , everyone thrashes the peadophile in debate and his only option is to do as he’s doing now downvote with his 30 odd accounts
Yes--we certainly should not be taking it to that extreme. Rather, this is intended to clean up egregious abuses that are quite prevalent on this site as of present
Rather, this is intended to clean up egregious abuses that are quite prevalent on this site as of present
But you and Dermot are both two of the worst trolls on the entire site. You literally go out of your way to try to provoke other people and create confrontation. Neither of you belongs in the formal section of anything because both of you have the mentality of children. Whenever someone proves you wrong you literally take it as a personal insult.
I believe that the only reason you want a "formal section" in the first place is precisely so you can use it to provoke other people and then clap your hands in glee when you eventually have them banned. Twits like you are always on the lookout for new weapons. Anything will do, provided it doesn't involve actually learning what you're trying to argue about.
But you and Dermot are both two of the worst trolls on the entire site.
No, they really aren't. I've had great discussions with both of them, even when we disagree they have never gotten personal. If you are Nomenclature then I've had some good discussions with you as well but admittedly you have gotten a little personal but nothing terrible. (If you aren't, sorry I have a terrible time keeping track of who is who on here when there are multiple accounts).
Where as there are a few on here with multiple accounts who abuse the down vote and up vote on ever single one of them, not because of content but because of the person. There are also some on here who never address the topic of the debate or what has been said and simply attack in favor of one viewpoint over and over and over again.
Thank you Mint I’ve also had some excellent exchanges with you and long may it continue , Nom is really annoyed as I totally disagreed with his 9/ 11 conspiracy nonsense so he uses his alt accounts to downvote any objections to his “ alternative theory “ and then posts up his detestable anti Irish posts ..........all incredibly predictable and typically childish
I see you’re at your usual “ game “ as in accusing others of your own faults , only yesterday you posted up your lunatic fringe “ debate “ regarding 9 / 11 for the 21 time proving you’re a troll , also you have 12 different accounts just so you can ......troll
You downvote anyone who disagrees with your infantile views on an array of subjects you know nothing about , you fled for several months after being humiliated by me and several others on your ill advised debate on Marxism
You’re a racist , a bigot and a champagne socialist who’s every debate somehow always leads back to your mantra as in 9/ 11 was an inside job
That feature is already built into the system. All you have to do is create a community. You can moderate it. You can designate others with the power to moderate as well. My community is not moderated. check it out ;)
The changes you suggest may or may not have the desired effect.. But, why would YOU care? It's NOT your money that was put at risk to build the infrastructure your changes would require..
And, therein lies the problem.. People who have NO money at risk, have PLENTY of ideas HOW the people WITH money should spend it..
x, my friend... If you put your own money into a site that does everything you want it to do, I'll become a member and be your supporter..
But, you're a kibitzer.. A kibitzer is the guy BEHIND the ropes at a poker tournament, telling everybody within earshot HOW that hand should have been played, but NEVER puts up a dime of his own money..
And, therein lies the problem.. People who have NO money at risk, have PLENTY of ideas HOW the people WITH money should spend it..
Nothing I have submitted would require any additional funding. Rather, I am attempting to figure out how to use the current tools in place more efficiently to produce a higher-level site
Why are you under the impression this would cost any (additional) money?
