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 CHALLENGE TO THE ATHEISTS & NON BELIEVERS (20)

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CHALLENGE TO THE ATHEISTS & NON BELIEVERS

GOD HAS BROUGHT US OVER HERE TO TEST US WITH LIMITS BEFORE GOD BESTOWS UPON US LIMITLESSNESS &

ETERNAL BLISSS WHICH HE'S CAPABLE OF::AS PROOF: TAKE A LOOK AT 375,000 species of plants THE GOD CREATED FOR US TO USE , AND ALL DIFFERENT TYPES OF SPECIES. 1.4 MILLION SPECIES KNOWN

ARE ALL THOSE COINCIDENCE ?

AND NOT 1 TYPE CLAIMED TO HAVE BEEN CREATED BY ANY A PERSON (SCIENCE ONLY EXPLAINS HOW)

THE AIR WE USE,  AND OUR BODY WE USE HAVE 50 TRILLION CELL IN THEM TO MAKE THEM FUCTION PROPERLY  (SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN EACH CELL TO BE MORE COMPLEX THEN ANY CITY BUILT IN THE WORLD)(WOLE CITY WITH EVERYTHIN IN IT TO FUNCTION) 

THEREON IF ATHEIST SAY THAT 50 TRILLION CITIES IS CHANCE OF HAPPENING

SO THEN IS NEW YORK, CHICAGO, LOS ANGELES DOWN TOWN A MERE CHANCE? YOU'LL PROBABLY SAY NO TO THISE QUESTION

EACH CELL IS HARDER TO BUILTY THEN ANY CITY IN THE WORLD AND SCIENTISTS COULDN'T EVEN PRODUCE ONE CELL THAT RESEMBLES THE REAL

SO 50 TRILLION CITIES IN EACH HUMAN (X 6.8 BILLION PEOPLE IN THE WORLD (ONLY TODAY))

375,000 SPECIES OF PLANTS

1.4 MILLION MOVING SPECIES

ARE PROOFS OF AT LEAST TWO THINGS

#1 THE EXISTANCE OF GOD (MASTER, ENGINEER, SUPER INTELLIGENT DESIGNER OR ARCHTECT

#2 GOD IS POWERFUL AND BEYOND ANYTHING WE COULD IMAGINE.(we can't imagine god or prove physical existence of god if the above is too many things created by one being)

YOU WILL DIE THEREFORE DO SOMETHING B4 DEATH (THE UNFORTENATE UNEXPECTED VISITOR) VISITS YOU TAKE PRECAUTIONARY MEASUREMENT 2B SAFE FROM HELL FIRE BECAUSE THAT WILL BE A WAY YOU WILL PAY YOUR BILLS OF USING THE BODY CREATED BY GOD THE EARTH CREATED BY GOD NOURISHMENT CRATED BY GOD.

PROOF OF HELL IS THE SUN THAT GOD CREATED SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN TO BE ABOUT 5 BILLION YRS OLD almost 6,000 degrees

ETERNAL PUNISHMENT

PONDER, MEDIDATE, THINK CAREFULLY B 4 JUST LAUGHING AND DISMISSING.

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5 points

I know I shouldn't feed the troll, but I'll bite.

Most of your argument is based around the "Clockmaker" argument. Basically, you're arguing that because the universe is so complex, some sentient being had to create it (ergo the "Clockmaker"). Know what else is complex? A Kangaroo. How do kangaroos come about? Two kangaroos have sex. So, using your logic, the complexity of the universe is evidence for a mommy and a daddy universe having sex.

Seconded. I should also add that 1) His arguments promote the view of intelligent design, not god, 2) I haven't found one christian that would attempt to prove christianity without quoting the bible (MORONS), and 3) his nearly illegible typing hurts his already starving cause.

3 points

TURN OFF YOUR CAPS LOCK

With that out of the way, you are simply presenting yet another example of people who don't understand probability but think it somehow proves that they know more about science than all the scientists in the world. I often wonder how exactly the thought process of people like you works.

Let me paint you a picture. There is a guy standing on the tarmac of a major international airport. Around him he has gathered a crowd of aircraft mechanics, and aeronautical engineers, and pilots. And he is sternly lecturing them on how it is clearly IMPOSSIBLE for something heavier than air to fly because LOOK!!!! LOOK!!!!! He's flapping his arms really really fast and NOTHING IS HAPPENING!!! SEE!!! IT'S SO OBVIOUS!!! WHY CAN'T YOU IDIOTS SEE????

But he's having to yell really really loudly to be heard over the sound of the 747 that's taking off behind him at that very moment.

That guy? That's you.

While you're here ranting at us about how evolution is OBVIOUSLY IMPOSSIBLE!!!!!... those of us who have a clue happen to know it's being observed as we speak and has aleady been proven beyond any rational dount.

Side: Science Beats Ignorance

I like your analogies they are always fitting........................

Side: Science Beats Ignorance
2 points

Think for yourself

Question authority

Throughout human history, as our species has faced the frightening, terrorizing fact that we do not know who we are, or where we are going in this ocean of chaos, it has been the authorities, the political, the religious, the educational authorities who attempted to comfort us by giving us order, rules, regulations, informing, forming in our minds their view of reality. To think for yourself you must question authority and learn how to put yourself in a state of vulnerable, open-mindedness; chaotic, confused, vulnerability to inform yourself.

Think for yourself.

Question authority.

Side: Aenima mantra
2 points

the argument over chance has always been an interesting one, but it does not PROVE that God exists...

and it certainly doesn't help AT ALL that there is a Hell or shit like that. Religion, in no way, is supported by the philosophy of Intelligent Design.

I'm a non-believer because, frankly, you can not provide me with any evidence. just broken up arguments. I do not throw ID out the window, but it's not a science... just a philosophical pondering.

Side: No Evidence
2 points

This is another example of irreducible complexity. It does not explain anything more than the mind of (some) man with its limits, is incapable of understanding seemingly difficult questions.

To invoke an Omnipotent deity anytime there is something too unfathomable is the nature of man and his anthropopethic slant.

Furthermore Islamic, Christian, Jewish faiths cannot grasp the vastness of geological or cosmological time. Simply because they are told that the earth is less than ten thousand years old, a time that archaeologists and anthropologists agree was in the middle of the agricultural revolution. The existence of the overwhelming array of life is dumbfounding but not incomprehensible. We now know through Uranium-Lead dating that the Earth is circa four and a half billion years old, sufficient time for the amount of plants and animals that exist to have evolved from humble beginnings.

I would recommend a book called the Ancestors tale by Richard Dawkins it is a beautiful account of evolution, is easily read by non scientists and would explain a lot of your questions in detail.

Religions are both anthropopethic and anthropocentric, to them God is the only answer to all questions, a god that man himself created to put himself as the chosen species in the center of the universe. A God that defies logic, reason and explanation.

If God does exist and he is the God that you believe in he is not going to be happy about you trying to figure his stuff out. Through blind faith it is your duty to not question his existence a question you had to be asking if you compiled (weak) evidence to try and prove it to atheists, for if you are to truly and empirically compile evidence of his existence you have to be ready to accept the possibility of his non existence, thus proving that even in the religious circles people are struggling with the question of God's existence and not accepting as true followers.

Side: No Evidence
2 points

Evolution accounts for the complexity and diversity of life, abiogenesis accounts for life's creation, nebular hypothesis accounts for the formation of planets and stars. The big bang accounts for the formation of the universe. God is superfluous and therefore probably doesn't exist.

However, even if there were a god, it doesn't follow that there is a heaven, hell, or any afterlife.

Side: Science Beats Ignorance
1 point

I am not atheists. I am a strong christian. I go to a Church of God in Christ. But their is one thing i believe that its hard for people to wrap their hands around; islamic, christians, jews, and catholics worship the same God just different disciples. Islamic believe that Jesus was a disciple of God but they choose to believe in Muhammad and they just call God by a different name.

Side: Science Beats Ignorance
abubakar31(176) Disputed
0 points

ALL MUSLIMS AL READY KNOW JESUS IS A PROPHET BUT SINCE U DON'T BELIEVE IN QURAN

Let’s look at some of the BIBLE Scriptures that support Jesus accepted prophet among His people.

Matt 21:10-11 Who is this?" So the multitudes said, "This is Jesus, the prophet from Nazareth of Galilee."

Luke 7:16 “Then fear came upon all, and they glorified God, saying, "A great prophet has risen up among us"; and, "God has visited His people."

In Luke 24:19 Peter is recorded saying “And He said to them, "What things?" So they said to Him, "The things concerning Jesus of Nazareth, who was a Prophet mighty in deed and word before God and all the people,

John 6:14 “Then those men, when they had seen the sign that Jesus did, said, "This is truly the Prophet who is to come into the world." Referring to Moses and Deut. 18:15.

Matt 14:5 “ they counted him as a prophet.”

Matt 21:46 “ they took Him for a prophet.”

Matt 13:57 Jesus said to them, "A prophet is not without honor except in his own country and in his own house."

So it is established, they thought he was a prophet and He acknowledged this.

John 7:40-41 “Therefore many from the crowd, when they heard this saying, said, "Truly this is the Prophet." V.41 Others said, "This is the Christ."

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Side: Science Beats Ignorance
1 point

Good thing I pray to Lord Krishna every morning and kneel before Him.

The truth has set me free.

Side: Science Beats Ignorance
1 point

Th-...this is a joke, right? Right?

Whatever it is, bravo. You just made my morning.

Side: Science Beats Ignorance
1 point

ETERNAL BLISSS WHICH HE'S CAPABLE OF::AS PROOF: TAKE A LOOK AT 375,000 species of plants THE GOD CREATED FOR US TO USE , AND ALL DIFFERENT TYPES OF SPECIES. 1.4 MILLION SPECIES KNOWN

ARE ALL THOSE COINCIDENCE ?

No nobody says they are literally a coincidence. They all share the same building method (DNA) and they are all related, so it is not like these are 1.4 million miracles - as long as you have stem cells life happens easilly.

AND NOT 1 TYPE CLAIMED TO HAVE BEEN CREATED BY ANY A PERSON (SCIENCE ONLY EXPLAINS HOW)

Im not sure I am understanding what you are getting at here, but at least one type (humans, or at least the ones with low IQ) say that a person (sky daddy) created them.

THE AIR WE USE, AND OUR BODY WE USE HAVE 50 TRILLION CELL IN THEM TO MAKE THEM FUCTION PROPERLY

You are thinking of "molecules" (talking about air) not "cells" - Air (that is O or Oxigen) does not have cells, it has molecules.

(SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN EACH CELL TO BE MORE COMPLEX THEN ANY CITY BUILT IN THE WORLD)(WOLE CITY WITH EVERYTHIN IN IT TO FUNCTION)

Cells are quite complex and could be likened to a city in a somewhat poetic manner but your argument is self-contradictory (that is: stupid) for a "CITY WITH EVERYTHIN IN IT" would contain cells now wouldnt it? so how can those cells be more complex than itself plus a bunch of other cells (interacting together in more complex ways than have been detected anywhere else in the universe and constantly building greater and greated higherarcies of organisation (through technology))

THEREON IF ATHEIST SAY THAT 50 TRILLION CITIES IS CHANCE OF HAPPENING

"Is chance of happening" are you really a native english speaker?

SO THEN IS NEW YORK, CHICAGO, LOS ANGELES DOWN TOWN A MERE CHANCE? YOU'LL PROBABLY SAY NO TO THISE QUESTION

Evolutionary theory is not a one sentence theory that says "Everything happens by chance. PERIOD". It is not like Darwin one day walked into a scientifc forum and said "Everything happens by chance" and all the other scientists went "WHOA, that is obviously true, no need to test this hypothesis"

Evolutionary theory says that species evolve because of either heretige or random mutation, and that the species with the greatest ability to cope with given circumstances (that often change btw) is the most likely to survive. In no way does that mean that all that happens by pure chance (although a fair chunk of the process happens by chance it seems - that is if the offspring inherets one characteristic over another, which sperm reaches the egg first, and therefore what genetic material fertilizes the egg.. etc)

EACH CELL IS HARDER TO BUILTY THEN ANY CITY IN THE WORLD AND SCIENTISTS COULDN'T EVEN PRODUCE ONE CELL THAT RESEMBLES THE REAL

Where did you get this - first of all - scientists have already produced cells, and what is more - recently scientists where able to build a stem cell (that is a cell with a big C)

SO 50 TRILLION CITIES IN EACH HUMAN (X 6.8 BILLION PEOPLE IN THE WORLD (ONLY TODAY))

This is just stupid - dont confuse analogical language with reality. (I know that is a lot to ask of someone who bases his life on a book that uses nothing but analogical language to describe the world in its supposed entierety)

375,000 SPECIES OF PLANTS

1.4 MILLION MOVING SPECIES

ARE PROOFS OF AT LEAST TWO THINGS

#1 THE EXISTANCE OF GOD (MASTER, ENGINEER, SUPER INTELLIGENT DESIGNER OR ARCHTECT

#2 GOD IS POWERFUL AND BEYOND ANYTHING WE COULD IMAGINE.(we can't imagine god or prove physical existence of god if the above is too many things created by one being)

No it does not - for complex patterns are more likely to ensue from simple patterns/programs/forms as Stephen Wolframs book " A new kind of Science" shows mathematically, and complexity science has established.

YOU WILL DIE THEREFORE DO SOMETHING B4 DEATH (THE UNFORTENATE UNEXPECTED VISITOR) VISITS YOU TAKE PRECAUTIONARY MEASUREMENT 2B SAFE FROM HELL FIRE BECAUSE THAT WILL BE A WAY YOU WILL PAY YOUR BILLS OF USING THE BODY CREATED BY GOD THE EARTH CREATED BY GOD NOURISHMENT CRATED BY GOD.

PROOF OF HELL IS THE SUN THAT GOD CREATED SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN TO BE ABOUT 5 BILLION YRS OLD almost 6,000 degrees

A little chemestry 101 for you. For someone to burn for enernity would require him to be made out of infinite fuel. Our body, being finate, cant burn for eternity.

PONDER, MEDIDATE, THINK CAREFULLY B 4 JUST LAUGHING AND DISMISSING.

You think of yourself as a real preacher dont you? :)

Well you cant state anything dumber than Mormonism but still; please try

Side: Science Beats Ignorance
-1 points

AND THIS VIDEO GOES TO ATHEIST IF YOU ARE ATHEIST WHO CONSIDER EVERY BODY ELSE WITH OPEN MIND AND OPEN HEART WITHOUT PRECONDITIONS.

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Side: Science Beats Ignorance
Kinda(1649) Disputed
1 point

Why don't they cut their beards? I don't understand

Doesn't it get itchy?

Side: Science Beats Ignorance
abubakar31(176) Disputed
0 points

you can't understand and will never understand!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

Side: Science Beats Ignorance