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Calling people stupid is an effective way to get them to think more deeply

The last debate I posted displayed a conspiracy video that I know was persuasive because someone I work with insisted that I watch it. I posted it here looking for well reasoned refutation and I was bombarded with insults and down votes. This despite that I never said anything defending the video in the first place. So it inspired this debate

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People who are in need of being called stupid aren't going to listen either way. When you call them stupid they at least stop talking about the stupid things they were saying and start complaining about being called stupid.

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atypican(4875) Disputed
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Its a way of guaranteeing there will be no debate. If I were to go to the guy who insisted I watch the video and tell him " You have to be stupid to believe anything in it", We would probably actually have a fist fight. Of course its easy to hurl insults on internet forums.

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Cartman(18192) Disputed
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Its a way of guaranteeing there will be no debate.

You didn't debate at all. There was nothing that could be done.

If I were to go to the guy who insisted I watch the video and tell him " You have to be stupid to believe anything in it",

You are the one who said that JustIgnoreMe had to be stupid to believe what he believed. He told you that an idea was stupid.

Of course its easy to hurl insults on internet forums.

You did it quite well.

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The last debate I posted displayed a conspiracy video that I know was persuasive because someone I work with insisted that I watch it.

But this is faulty logic. How does the fact that somebody you know insisted that you watch a video assure you that it was indeed persuasive? Maybe they were mistaken or ill-informed on the topic of the video? And we certainly don'y know that person's level of knowledge in the subject. so that would not in any way make us think, a priori, that the video was assured to be persuasive.

That said, I did not watch the video and indeed missed that entire debate. So I cannot call it stupid. But yeah, sometimes, I suppose, when we get harshly criticized or even insulted here on CD after posting our opinions on something, that CAN fuel us to maybe go back to the drawing board and re-think our OP.

But sometimes not. After all, we have several members here who call others stupid and ignorant--or condemn us to Hell!--simply for not believing as they do.

Now...THAT'S stupid!

LOL

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It works best on idiots.

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It's what insecure and bigoted people say when losing an argument.

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And the insecure and bigoted is owned by the Democrats. Solely owned by them.

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We get it, you are a Democrat. You don't need to say it in every debate.

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atypican(4875) Clarified
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What do insecure and bigoted people say when losing an argument?

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That the person is stupid.

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HighFalutin(3402) Clarified
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Calling people stupid when they don't agree with them.

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The last debate I posted displayed a conspiracy video that I know was persuasive because someone I work with insisted that I watch it. I posted it here looking for well reasoned refutation and I was bombarded with insults and down votes. This despite that I never said anything defending the video in the first place. So it inspired this debate

The very first response you got was me spending 10 minutes going through and pointing out every factual inaccuracy, specifically. You responded with "Not helpful".

If you want people to post legitimate comments, then come up with legitimate responses. Otherwise you are only contributing to the problem you bemoan.

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You weren't insulted, you did the insulting.

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Anyone can go check out that debate. Its the one I created right before this one.

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Cartman(18192) Disputed
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Anyone can go check out that debate.

Not a good idea for you.

Its the one I created right before this one.

And it shows you throwing around insults like it was going out of style.

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JustIgnoreMe(4290) Clarified
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Yea, they should. It's the one that says - hey, this guy says all wars are started by jew bankers, can anybody find anything seriously wrong with that...

Here's a link

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Instead of whining about it polly prissy pants, why not post the rest of the absurd claims so they can be debunked for all to see?

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If you call someone stupid, they're much less likely to agree with what you're saying. If you want someone to accept the things you're saying, you have to be respectful. Insulting someone isn't going to make them open up and agree with you.

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JustIgnoreMe(4290) Clarified
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I'm not always aiming at convincing the person I am debating.

I am comfortable making the case that I believe is sufficient for the objective future reader.

If atypican is stupid enough to post a video that bad without the tiniest scrutiny, then I'm not eager for him and I to agree on anything.

Hopefully the future reader gets the idea that the video is abhorrent and mostly deliberate falsehoods and can then either choose not watch it, or watch it with a very high degree of skepticism - and, just maybe, get the idea to apply that same scrutiny to the rest of the internet...

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atypican(4875) Clarified
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I didn't post the video because I agree with it. Looking for arguments against it. Not insults of my intelligence.

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I do not agree. When you call someone stupid, or something they do stupid, you make them question themselves, NOT think deeply. You make them feel worthless. If you want to tell someone to think deeper before they make an action, then tell that another way... not by calling them stupid.

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I think it makes people dig in their heels and double down ;)

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First, the default approach on this site is indeed to call the opposition stupid. Both the left and right do it.

Second, although most on this site don't bother to document anything or even to clash on arguments there are some who will go out and find a link or something to bolster their side, and in that respect being called stupid does inspire them to dig a little deeper.

And finally third, I didn't watch your video or comment on your debate because a) I was somewhere I didn't have the time or privacy to do that, and b) too often the video links people post are giant time sucks of propaganda, and I'm not going to subject myself to propaganda just so I can come back in to post "gee I watched it".

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