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Can Any Man Live Without Some Code Of Morality?

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3 points

A code of morality could be viewed as a conscience. Psychopaths do not have a conscience yet, as Ama_Deviant says, they are more common then you or I would imagine. Thus, my answer is yes - one can live without a conscience.

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1 point

We don't have to use our imagination. Those in the business of studying and treating mental disorders estimate that that between one and four percent of the general population are psychopaths [1]

Some investigators have speculated that “successful psychopaths”—those who attain prominent positions in society—may be overrepresented in certain occupations, such as politics, business and entertainment. Yet the scientific evidence for this idea is not yet available. [2]

Off the topic of your comment, here are some interesting facts about this condition:

Psychopathy is made up of at least three overlapping, but separable, groups of traits:

1. interpersonal deficits (such as grandiosity, arrogance and deceitfulness),

2. affective deficits (lack of guilt and empathy, for instance), and 3. impulsive and criminal behaviors (including sexual promiscuity and stealing).

Not suprisingly, studies find that about 25 percent of prision inmates are psychopaths.

Popular misperceptions of psychopathy:

1. All psychopaths are violent. the fact is, most psychopaths are not violent, and most violent people are not psychopaths.

2. All psychopaths are psychotic. The fact is psychopaths are almost always rational. They are well aware that their ill-advised or illegal actions are wrong in the eyes of society but shrug off these concerns.

3. Psychopathy is untreatable. Even if the core personality traits of psychopaths are verydifficult to change, their criminal behaviors may prove more amenable to treatment.

[1] http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=what-psychopath-means

[2] This and much of the rest of the comment are from the source http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=what-psychopath-means

Side: Yep

I agree with almost everything, except that they are not not treatable. I've read several times, such as TruTv's crime library, that they cannot be helped.

Side: Yep
brycer2012(1002) Disputed
1 point

I wouldn't say that they don't have a conscience. I think that they just choose not to listen to it.

Side: NOPE
TERMINATOR(6780) Disputed
1 point

Do you know the first thing about psychopathy?

They are without conscience, not by desire but by nature - they are emotionless, they do not know right from wrong. They understand human nature, they are master manipulators - Jeffrey Dahmer, a serial killer, managed to convince a pastor that he had become a Christian - that being nearly impossible, seeing that he had no sense of right and wrong - very few people believed him, but the pastor did..

Side: Yep
2 points

Yes, just look at some Major Psychopathic killers.

Ed Gein, Jeffrey Dahmer, Dnepropetrovsk maniacs, John Wayne Gacy, and Ted Bundy the list goes on and on.

My point is do ANY of you honestly think these people had a "Code Of Morality"?

I mean everyone is driven by motivation or else no one would do anything. People wouldn't do things IF it did not benefit them in some ways.

The murderers I listed above they thought killing, raping, and mutilating people would benefit them in some way or else they wouldn't do it!

There is no "Code Of Morality" with them or else they wouldn't have done all that stuff!

Or you can think of it this way..."Let's go kill and then rape some girl and eat some of her genitals..etc.". Is that in ANY way Moral?

Side: Yep
1 point

They can live, yet they can cause untold suffering of others.

Side: Yep
1 point

Crazy people.

'nuff sed.

Side: Yep

I think someone can but he cannot ever harm another human being.

Side: Yep
2 points

No.

A man must have a code.

A person without a code cannot be a man.

Edit:

Just to clarify

I'm talking about a mans personal code. Not his ability to comply with society.

Side: NOPE
TERMINATOR(6780) Disputed
1 point

As a dispute, I tell you to read my argument. I'm too lazy to type it out again.

Side: Yep
Kinda(1649) Disputed
1 point

Read my edit.

Psychopaths can still have a code and live by it.

Side: NOPE
1 point

Maybe yes, maybe no.

We are social animals. Yet some are "inadequately socialized", in otherwords, will not fit into society well.

Other inadequately socialized people will not follow the rules of society. However, they are anti-social, not completely unsocialized. They are men, just bad men.

Side: NOPE
1 point

Read my edit.

I'm talking about one's own or personal code - not that of society. Although society itself would have a huge influence on it.

Side: NOPE

If a man or woman cannot distinguish between right and wrong or moral and immoral based on who they are and what they perceive to be "right" and "wrong," are they then to be considered human??

Every human being has a set of beliefs or morals that they have defined for themselves. And they don't live a day without them.

Side: Yep