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Debate Score:56
Arguments:38
Total Votes:61
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Can I be prolife and prochoice?

I am asking because I am personally opposed to abortion, but think it should be legal for the health of the mother, if the child will die anyway, or if the mother is raped.

Yes.

Side Score: 33
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No.

Side Score: 23
4 points

You can be both pro-life and pro-choice and it's actually a more effective path to reduce abortions. Studies have been done that show countries with liberal abortion laws have lower abortion rates. Countries where abortion is illegal the phenomena simply goes underground where it is readily available, making the method ineffective.

"….the Guttmacher Institute has released some insightful data visualizations on abortion rates around the world. Turns out, the countries with the more liberal abortion laws actually have fewer abortions." (Source)

The democrat strategy for reducing abortions is through adequate sex education and birth control with legalized abortions when needed.

The republican strategy only emphasizes making abortion illegal, abstinence only education in some cases, and reduced access to birth control thereby raising the rate.

Side: Yes.
2 points

Well done on your argument.

I would love to see Democrats embrace the idea that abortions are bad and that people should avoid them whenever possible. That would really hurt the pro life strategy.

Side: Yes.
2 points

I agree with your well thought out statement. If we had adequate sex education, we would need less abortions. What most of the rabid right don't seem to realize is that abortion was only been illegal for seventy years. Before that, it was a procedure done by doctors and midwives. Very few people even knew when it happened unless there was a problem or a woman lost her life. It should be a personal choice by the woman involved and no one else.

Side: Yes.
3 points

Stop trying to believe that the name of the group means anything at all. People who are pro life only care about creating legislation to ban abortions. It is not determined by thinking abortion is bad. Make up your mind about whether you think there needs to be a law. Make up your mind about whether abortion is bad. They are independent thoughts.

Side: Yes.
Sitar(3680) Disputed
1 point

I don't have to make up my mind. The prolife versus prochoiuce debate presents a false dichotomy. I believe that abortion is acceptable in the situations I mentioned, but otherwise, no. I am a moderate when it comes to abortion.

Side: No.
2 points

I don't have to make up my mind.

Why not? Why do you feel it makes sense to keep changing your opinion over and over again.

The prolife versus prochoiuce debate presents a false dichotomy.

It sort of doesn't. It presents a false labeling. Are you pro legislation, or anti legislation.

I believe that abortion is acceptable in the situations I mentioned, but otherwise, no.

So, you have made up your mind about how you feel about abortion.

I am a moderate when it comes to abortion.

You have determined the situations that are ok. Do you think your position should be enforced by law, or by morality?

Side: No.

Absolutely! A person can be both. Such person understands both reasonings.

Side: Yes.

Absolutely! I think the opposites can be attained by someone who sees both sides of the issue. It is a brilliant compromise.

Side: Yes.
Atrag(5666) Banned
4 points

It is best of you keep it simple for yourself tbh. Just choose your label and repeat it over and over again.

Side: No.
1 point

Probably not.

To say that one is both pro-life and pro-choice results in the following - I believe that all innocent human beings have an inherent right to life which we must protect. The unborn fetuses are innocent human beings. Therefore we need to protect them. However, I also believe that mothers should have the right to kill their unborn children for whatever reason (medical, economics etc). So, while I think that murder is wrong, I understand that other people may want to kill other people for whatever reason.

I do not want to shove my beliefs down others - if a mother wants to kill her children, that's not my business. But nevertheless I think fetuses have a right to life.

That's one example, but these things vary between different nuances in both pro-choice/pro-life views. Contradicting elements may also arise: a fetus has a right to life (pro-life), but doesn't have a right to life (pro-choice). A fetus is a human being (pro-life), but it is not a human being (pro-choice).

Side: No.