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In the REAL world, NO In Trump world, YES
Debate Score:16
Arguments:16
Total Votes:18
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Can Iran violate a nuclear deal they DON'T have with us?


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Iran announced on Monday that it would soon violate a central element of the landmark 2015 nuclear deal which Trump withdrew from last year. 


Can they do that?


https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/17/world/middleeast/iran-nuclear-deal-compliance.html 


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In the REAL world, NO

Side Score: 7
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In Trump world, YES

Side Score: 9
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In the REAL world NOTHING was done about IRAN you IDIOT LAP DOG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/366197-now-theres-no-denying-it-obamas-failed-iran-deal-wasnt-worth-the

In 2009 President Obama outlined his vision of a world without nuclear weapons, and the centerpiece of this anti-nuclear weapon agenda was to prevent Iran from becoming a nuclear weapons state. The Obama team set out to negotiate a deal that would, supposedly, roll back the nuclear program and set up a verification regime to ensure compliance.

But the Iran nuclear deal, which, even according to President Obama, would only delay Iran's breakout time by mere months, not eliminate it, was so important to the Obama agenda, that the administration insisted the scope of the deal must remain excruciatingly narrow. Officials and their friends in the media argued that tacking on other issues risked upending the Iran deal.

PRESIDENT OBAMA: Let me flip the question, Steve: I would argue that this deal is the right thing to do for the United States, for our allies in the region and for world peace regardless of the nature of the Iranian regime.

So — so I would actually argue you're right. People are focused on that.

But this is a good deal if you think Iran's open to change; it's also a good deal if you think that Iran is implacably opposed to the United States and the West and our values ... and the reason is this:

My goal, when I came into office, was to make sure that Iran did not get a nuclear weapon and thereby trigger a nuclear arms race in the most volatile part of the world. And prior to me coming into office, we had seen Iran's program go very quickly and have a whole bunch of centrifuges reduce the timeline in which they could break out and obtain a nuclear weapon if they so chose.

And because of the hard diplomatic work that we did internationally, as well as help from Congress, we were able to impose some really significant sanctions, brought them to the table.

We're now in a position where Iran has agreed to unprecedented inspections and verifications of its program, providing assurances that it is peaceful in nature. You have them rolling back a number of pathways that they currently have available to break out and get a nuclear weapon. You have assurances that their stockpile of highly enriched uranium remains in a place where they cannot create a nuclear weapon.

And that lasts not only for the first 10 years, but the inspections and verifications that are unprecedented go for another decade after that.

Now, ideally, we would see a situation in which Iran, seeing sanctions reduced, would start focusing on its economy, on training its people, on reentering the world community, to lessening its provocative activities in the region.

https://www.npr.org/2015/04/07/397933577/transcript-president-obamas-full-npr-interview-on-iran-nuclear-deal

SUPER STUPID what the AFRICAN did was pander to his MUSLIM BUDDIES in IRAN !

Side: In the REAL world, NO
1 point

Despite the howls of the Democratic Party Resistance, Trump is right that the Iran deal is “an embarrassment to the United States.” In fact, it’s the most deficient accord in the history of American arms control diplomacy.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/09/22/iran-nuclear-deal-bomb-215636

BOY ain't it a BITCH that the LEFTIST had to concede to what a disaster OBAMA was in the LAST PARAGRAPH of this link !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Side: In the REAL world, NO
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In the REAL world YOU don't know SHIT !!!!!!!!!!!!!

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/04/24/obama-iran-nuclear-deal-prisoner-release-236966

When President Barack Obama announced the “one-time gesture” of releasing Iranian-born prisoners who “were not charged with terrorism or any violent offenses” last year, his administration presented the move as a modest trade-off for the greater good of the Iran nuclear agreement and Tehran’s pledge to free five Americans.

“Iran had a significantly higher number of individuals, of course, at the beginning of this negotiation that they would have liked to have seen released,” one senior Obama administration official told reporters in a background briefing arranged by the White House, adding that “we were able to winnow that down to these seven individuals, six of whom are Iranian-Americans.”

But Obama, the senior official and other administration representatives weren’t telling the whole story on Jan. 17, 2016, in their highly choreographed rollout of the prisoner swap and simultaneous implementation of the six-party nuclear deal, according to a POLITICO investigation.

In his Sunday morning address to the American people, Obama portrayed the seven men he freed as “civilians.” The senior official described them as businessmen convicted of or awaiting trial for mere “sanctions-related offenses, violations of the trade embargo.”

In reality, some of them were accused by Obama’s own Justice Department of posing threats to national security. Three allegedly were part of an illegal procurement network supplying Iran with U.S.-made microelectronics with applications in surface-to-air and cruise missiles like the kind Tehran test-fired recently, prompting a still-escalating exchange of threats with the Trump administration. Another was serving an eight-year sentence for conspiring to supply Iran with satellite technology and hardware. As part of the deal, U.S. officials even dropped their demand for $10 million that a jury said the aerospace engineer illegally received from Tehran.

BOY your AFRICAN was CORRUPT and a LEFT WING site proves the FACT !!!!!!!!!!!!

Side: In the REAL world, NO

In Trump world, YES

You can't blame only Trump for this one because obviously Israel has its hand up his arse. They never wanted the deal and they fell out with Obama over it. Unless of course you think Golan Heights, Jerusalem, Iran and a grovelling sponsorship advert for Netanyahu are all just a big scary coincidence. Either there is some form of corruption going on (likely given Kushner's interests in Israel and the West Bank), or the Israelis have some form of major leverage over Trump.

Side: In Trump world, YES
outlaw60(15368) Disputed
1 point

Avram are you a MUSLIM LOVER ????????????????????????????????????

Side: In the REAL world, NO
outlaw60(15368) Disputed
1 point

Regions with significant populations

Greater London 1,012,823

West Midlands 376,152

North West England 356,458

Yorkshire and the Humber 326,050

Religions

Sunni Islam (75%), Shia Islam (5%), Ahmadiyya (1%), Others (19%)

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/11/29/muslim-population-uk-could-triple-13m-following-record-influx/

The Muslim population of the UK is set to triple in 30 years, according to projections from the Pew Research Centre.

Under the model which assumes median migration levels, the number of Muslims in the country would rise from 4.1m in 2016 to 13m in 2050.

The US-based think tank says that the UK has been the major destination for economic migrants coming to Europe, while Germany has been the top destination for refugees.

It said the research followed a "record influx of asylum seekers fleeing conflicts in Syria and other predominantly Muslim countries".

The UK also has one of the largest gaps in fertility rates between Muslims and non-Muslims, with Muslim women having an average of 2.9 children compared to the 1.8 had by non-Muslims.

LEFTIST we can easily view your favorably of the MOOSLIMES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Side: In the REAL world, NO
AlofRI(3294) Clarified
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Fear not, outlaw. There will, likely, be another religious war … if not started by Trump, fed by his hatred and racism (that is supported joyfully by YOU!)

NO wars have been started by atheism, I would remind you. (By an atheist, certainly, but not by, or FOR, a "god"). ANY religion that supports an ancient entity and kills millions in its name, is cruel and idiotic! Might as well be "nuclear", they've killed MORE!

By the way, "leftists" are religious also, just as many as "rightists", but, they'd rather do it as that famous liberal, Jesus, (and most atheists, would do it. :-)

Side: In the REAL world, NO
1 point

In Trump world, YES it was not him that made a DEAL with the WORLDS NUMBER ONE STATE SPONSOR OF TERROR but SUPER STUPID was it your BOY KING and MOOSLIME LOVER OBAMA that did that ?????????????????????????????

Side: In Trump world, YES
1 point

WOW! I've rarely seen so much hate on one page … and largely by one "person"(?)! This is the Limbo Stick of ALL humanity! (How LOW can you GO!? :-)! Let's see, there's Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Pol Pot, Genghis Khan …, and now Outlaw. The embodiment of cruel idiocy. Guess I'll hold my nose and go to another page:-(

Side: In Trump world, YES

Defending the Jew hating Islamo Nazi regime in Tehran, eh Con? Am I surprised? No. That's what left wing Jews do. Root for their oppressors who want to genocide them...

Why? I can't get in the leftist brain to know the answer to that. I like myself.

Side: In Trump world, YES
Nom_Chomsky(846) Disputed
1 point

Defending the Jew hating Islamo Nazi regime in Tehran, eh Con?

The Jew hating Islamo Nazi regime that has never started a war with another country in its entire history as a state? That one? Or another one?

Side: In the REAL world, NO
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Bwahahahahaha! The Persian empire attacked more countries than any empire in human history you laughable jackass.

Side: In Trump world, YES
1 point

in its entire history as a state

Their recent history, is for them to fund terrorist groups to attack their enemies and decapitate non military personel. It's the number one state sponsor of terrorism worldwide, and they'd slit your throat in a New York minute, and never flinch.

Side: In Trump world, YES

In Trump's world?

Try looking in your own small world of self denial. You support No Restriction abortions when electing Democrats, yet in your world you are not culpable.

Is it nice in that little closeted world of self denial?

Obama's Iran deal allowed them to create Nuclear weapons after a certain number of years. They did not have to violate anything.

Now under a non Muslim sympathizer President, Iran will simply violate humanity to fulfill their declaration of wiping Israel off the face of the Earth. Israel and America will stop them, and life goes on with terrorist nations such as Iran.

Have you ever wondered why Israel never makes such hateful depraved comments such as wiping Iran off the face of the Earth?

Nah, you are a fool as most Leftists.

Side: In Trump world, YES
Nom_Chomsky(846) Disputed
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Obama's Iran deal allowed them to create Nuclear weapons after a certain number of years.

Whoa there. Back up a little bit Ted Bundy. Allowed them? You don't get to tell the Iranians what they can or can't research in their own country. You know this is exactly why everybody in that region hates Americans, right? Because of twits like you who literally think they have some form of rulership over the planet.

Side: In the REAL world, NO
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You know this is exactly why everybody in that region hates Americans, right?

Because Obama the leftist told them "no" to creating nukes? Bwahahahaha!

Side: In Trump world, YES