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It's in the constitution It's unconstitutional
Debate Score:31
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Can Obama require hospitals with religious ties to offer full contraception coverage?

 

http://articles.cnn.com/2012-02-10/politics/politics_contraception-controversy_1_contraception-religious-groups-religious-liberty?_s=PM:POLITICS

The question of whether institutions with religious ties should be required to offer insurance plans covering birth control and the so-called morning after pill, among other things, hits a number of political hot buttons. Liberal groups have pushed for an expansive contraception coverage requirement on grounds of gender equality in health care. Conservatives generally consider it a violation of the First Amendment and an infringement on religious liberty.

It's in the constitution

Side Score: 21
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It's unconstitutional

Side Score: 10
4 points

The hell he can!

I am forced to pay for things that are against my religious beliefs: useless wars, torture, giving aid to terrorists (Pakistani government).

Does that mean I don't have to pay taxes?!

And these freakin Christians can complain about their rights once they stop taking away those of woman and gays in the name of their religion.

2 years ago | Side: It's in the constitution
Sitara(11099) Disputed
0 points

You are wrong. The government does not have the right to force religious people or entities to violate their religious convictions. Freedom of religion is a right. Separation of church and state.

2 years ago | Side: It's unconstitutional
casper3912(1553) Disputed
1 point

Is it within the power of government to regulate commence? Specifically to restrict the sell of cannabis?

(I do have a relevant point here.)

2 years ago | Side: It's in the constitution
Apollo(1586) Disputed
1 point

Since you didn't dispute any of my arguments, I will simply repost them to give you a second chance. And two can play the down-vote game.

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"I am forced to pay for things that are against my religious beliefs: useless wars, torture, giving aid to terrorists (Pakistani government).

Does that mean I don't have to pay taxes?!

And these freakin Christians can complain about their rights once they stop taking away those of woman and gays in the name of their religion."

2 years ago | Side: It's in the constitution
3 points

99% of American women who have had sex have used contraceptives.

98% of American female Catholics who have had sex have used contraceptives.

I see no real reason to discriminate between two people on an issue that only has a difference of support of about 1%. Such a hugely overblown issue, no one really wants it banned, it's just all about winning the 'moral war' and getting votes.

2 years ago | Side: It's in the constitution
1 point

I'll be more charitable with all of this "religious liberty" these groups want when religion starts paying taxes like everyone else.

Either way though:

1. Religious freedom means individuals can express their own religion freely, not that they are free to force in whatever way others to express a religion that may or may not be their own.

2. Contraceptive coverage saves the country, and hospitals, millions and millions in the long run, it's a smart policy to provide it for free.

3. Contraceptives are also the number one deterrent for abortions so if these religious groups had half a brain they'd be thrilled by the idea.

2 years ago | Side: It's in the constitution

I don't see in any way that there is a conflict, because a hospital, charity, etc, that bears a religious name or has ties to a religion is not a church. These places or organizations are supposed to be for the benefit of society as a whole and not strictly for the pushing of ideas on others. If a hospital, organization only wants to aid its members and not society, this would be a different story. These places are open to the public, not just its' members.

They didn't order any religion to preach the use of birth control, churches are exempt. If Catholics don't like helping those outside their religion, then their hospitals should be deemed as private hospitals and not except money from any type of insurance that doesn't fit their religion.

Room for thought, does the Catholic church feed only the hungry that doesn't steal, kill, commit adultery, etc.

2 years ago | Side: It's in the constitution

The article states:

"President Barack Obama announced a compromise Friday in the dispute over whether to require full contraception insurance coverage for female employees at religiously affiliated institutions.

Under the new plan, religiously affiliated universities and hospitals will not be forced to offer contraception coverage to their employees."

He never had the power to make such an order, so..., the fact that it was recanted is NOT a compromise. That's like me telling you to fork over $100 and cop tells me that's stealing and I then say, "OK, let's compromise. You don't have to give me $100." ;)

2 years ago | Side: It's unconstitutional
Bohemian(3460) Clarified
1 point

the fact that it was recanted is NOT a compromise.

I think the compromise is that now insurers have to cover the cost.

2 years ago | Side: It's in the constitution

Insurance companies now have to cover the cost of contraception?

What about the cost of toothpaste? Do they have to cover that too?

2 years ago | Side: It's unconstitutional
1 point

The government does not have the right to dictate to religion. The separation between church and state protects people's rights.

2 years ago | Side: It's unconstitutional
iamdavidh(4844) Disputed
2 points

I'm sorry........................................

When did a hospital become a church?

2 years ago | Side: It's in the constitution
Sitara(11099) Disputed
1 point

The government does not have the right to force religious people or entities to violate their religious convictions. Freedom of religion is a right. Separation of church and state.

2 years ago | Side: It's unconstitutional


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