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 Can a society exist without laws? (26)

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Can a society exist without laws?

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2 points

It could exist for a while before descending into absolute chaos.

Attempted domination by different groupings would be the norm as the strong reign over the weak every violation and human abuse would go unpunished and human rights would be nonexistent

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Yes, but in practice minarchism is preferable to anarchism because the latter is inclined toward mob rule and/or rule by the strong. To decrease the roles of government slowly until it merely protects people's rights would be the best path forward on this front.

To have no state is potentially possible with a hyper-intelligent, conscientious, armed and moral citizenry, but first we would need to create such a citizenry.

Ideally, yes. Can we really achieve it? it is a possibility, and if every human being does his/her fair share, why not?

Can a society exist without laws?

If we got rid of laws, gangs would begin militarizing against people and other gangs would form to protect themselves just like the wild west.

Hootie(364) Disputed
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If we got rid of laws, gangs would begin militarizing against people

The laws are implemented by a gang you halfwit.

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No shit Sherlock. If you get rid of laws, the strongest group to organize will make new laws.

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Laws are fundamentally the establishment of known consequences. Society is fundamentally a community.

In order for people to live together for any extended period of time, they have to know the consequences their fellow humans will impose for given actions. Otherwise people would isolate themselves from one another for lack of certainty or trust. It would be Hobbes’s state of nature.

No. Society cannot exist without laws.

excon(18260) Disputed
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Laws are fundamentally the establishment of known consequences.

Hello A:

Yeah, but...... Of course we need laws against murder, rape, stealing, and hurting each other.. But beyond that, we're good..

Laws against THINGS, like drugs, and guns don't work and cause more problems than they fix..

And, why is it the governments business if you drive drunk??? Note - See above where I said there'll be laws against hurting each other.. So, we'll come down HARD if a drunk driver hurts somebody... But, if he just drives drunk and NEVER hurts anybody, who are we to interfere with his life??

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Amarel(5669) Disputed
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Of course we need laws against murder, rape, stealing, and hurting each other.. But beyond that, we're good..

The question is about laws as such, which is what I was answering.

You know, taxes are imposed by law.

why is it the governments business if you drive drunk?

The roadways are public and publicly maintained. A drunk driver is an inherent threat to all other members of the public they encounter. Imposing consequences for that kind of public endangerment is absolutely the proper role for the government. By the way, we do come down HARD. Since it usually kills someone, it’s usually a murder charge.

outlaw60(15368) Disputed
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SUPER STUPID have you paid attention to SEATTLE lately !!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are a babbling idiot BASEMENT BOY and you cannot deal with reality!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

https://komonews.com/news/healthworks/seattle-braces-for-drug-50-times-more-potent-than-heroin

https://mynorthwest.com/968303/seattle-drug-addicts/

https://www.kingcounty.gov/depts/health/ news/2018/May/9-overdose-deaths.aspx

Drug and alcohol use caused the deaths of 379 King County residents in 2017—an increase from 348 in 2016—according to two new reports published today by Public Health – Seattle & King County and the University of Washington’s Alcohol and Drug Abuse Institute.

Data from the 2017 Overdose Death Report describes drug and alcohol-caused deaths over the past decade investigated by the King County Medical Examiner’s Office (MEO). The report found that in 2017, heroin and opioids, including fentanyl, continue to be the most common drugs associated with fatal overdoses (69%) while the rate of deaths involving methamphetamine continue to increase sharply.

There is continued concern about the growing impact of illicit fentanyl. Fentanyl was involved in 33 fatal overdoses in 2017, up from 23 deaths in 2016. There have been 17 confirmed fentanyl-related deaths in the first quarter of 2018.

SUPER STUPID don't worry about the DRUGS you support because it is no problem in WASHINGTON STATE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hootie(364) Disputed
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Laws are fundamentally the establishment of known consequences. Society is fundamentally a community.

Laws are a consequence of the establishment of property rights. Your pseudo-intellectual garbage is tedious to read.

In order for people to live together for any extended period of time, they have to know the consequences their fellow humans will impose for given actions.

That isn't why laws were invented. You are romanticising history and once again intentionally proliferating myths. Laws were invented to protect the property rights of the ruling class.

Amarel(5669) Disputed
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Every society has laws. Property rights are only one category. If you don’t believe me, go to some indigenous tribe and assault someone. See what happens.

0 points

In the entire animal kingdom human groups are the only groups with laws, so yes.

outlaw60(15368) Disputed
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There is no need for police there in the UK or is it Norway ???????????????

You have a hard time staying on track as to where you might live !!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Animals kill and eat each other you mindless, brainless neanderthal. You wouldn't last a day without laws and law enforcement.

Hootie(364) Disputed
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Animals kill and eat each other you mindless, brainless neanderthal.

Humans are animals. Prove me wrong. I'll wait, dumbass.