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Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?

Can a country even teamed up with another defeat China in a war

Yes, doable

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No, almost impossible

Side Score: 171
6 points

Yes,if more than 2 powerful countries join hands together.

Like India,USA.

4 years ago | Side: yes, doable
2 points

Japan, Germany, France, The Commonwealth, and many other strong European countries would love to support one of the members of the allies who had turned the tide of the battle in both World War 1 and World War 2!!

3 years ago | Side: yes, doable
vepture(4) Disputed
1 point

First of all, the European countries will try to avoid conflict as much as possible. America did not really turn the tide of WW1 because all we did was boost morale. In WW2, it was the British and Russians that bomber Berlin so...very bad point there

1 year ago | Side: No, almost impossible
Banana_Slug(845) Disputed
2 points

India? :D Their weapon system is based on Russian cold war technology in combination with gifts from other countries :D

1 year ago | Side: No, almost impossible
5 points

The U.S. could defeat china. I don't think they have stealth aircraft that could bomb other countries without warning.

5 years ago | Side: The US could
5 points

Yes we have the B-2 Spirit Stealth bomber that can drop a 40,000LB payload.

5 years ago | Side: The US could
vepture(4) Disputed
1 point

A B-2 Spirit Stealth Bomber??? We don't even use that plane that often anymore. Besides, China's missile system is very advanced and invading China's airspace = Bye bye plane

1 year ago | Side: No, almost impossible
Yojimbosoul(8) Disputed
0 points

That's if they don't miss...

Oh that's right, the US only drops big load of bombs into an area trying to hit the needle in the map...

Sorry, but China is much bigger than Vietnam. So "dropping the 'payload'" isn't going top hit anything with the strategies the US is using for bombing.

4 years ago | Side: No, almost impossible
Axmeister(4299) Disputed
0 points

china probably has connections in japan and russia (since they are so close) and how many missiles do THEY have

4 years ago | Side: No, almost impossible
shipdog7(1) Disputed
2 points

We have had bombers and stealth firepower for several wars now. And how did that work for us? The Vietnam War is the longest war ever to have taken place in the American history. It lasted for 16 years

Afhanistan and Iraq? Did we beat them into submission? Or try and figure out a way to gracefully walk away with our tails between our legs?

2 years ago | Side: No, almost impossible
Funcuz(1) Clarified
1 point

The U.S. could defeat China in virtually any military campaign but we're only talking about their army . Militarily , the U.S. is more powerful than their closest rival by a factor of three .

The reason for this has nothing to do with numbers of troops though . It's simply technological superiority and the money to afford it .

Imagine a Roman legion against a hundred guys with guns . The numbers mean nothing and the legion would be wiped out with barely any casualties on the other side .

The U.S. has drones , stealth , the ability to project anywhere around the world in massive force , and so on . It has the best equipped soldiers and is developing weapons now that are years ahead of anything anybody else has . As a general rule of thumb , if we know about it , they've been working on it for between ten and twenty years .

Anyway , this is only about militarily defeating another nation . In terms of guerrilla warfare , insurrection , or whatever , there can never be any victory in China without extremely harsh measures . In other words , if the people of China aren't on board with the U.S. taking over then there's no chance of a successful occupation . The people would practically have to invite a U.S. invasion for there to be any chance of success and let's face it , that's an invitation that will never come .

In any case , these are two countries that , if they ever duke it out , will do so via proxy . A head on clash would inevitably lead to nuclear launches and they both know that in that case they lose along with the rest of us .

2 years ago | Side: Yes, doable
1 point

Well all we really have to do is take out their military, factories, and basically their economy. If we do that and then just leave, who cares what China thinks of us, It'll take them decades to rebuild and when they do we will again be much more advanced in military technology there will be no hope for China to catch up.

2 years ago | Side: Yes, doable
1 point

9 out of 10 americans own one or more guns.. American population is basically an army

192 days ago | Side: Yes, doable
Bibi(30) Clarified
1 point

Both China and US are too large and have many people to be taken and held. But China defeat even America, because China has about 20% of the worlds population and the US has just about 5%. Now the US in fact is broken and work on borrowed money. I think that US will not afford the attrition of his high priced military in a high rate.

2 years ago | Side: Yes, doable
Anxk99(4) Clarified
1 point

We would use draft and then numbers are not primary things about war nowadays and we are better trained better equipped we are poor but also not are country itself is very very rich and it would cost them so much to arm all those troops

300 days ago | Side: Yes, doable
vepture(4) Disputed
1 point

China has a fifth generation aircraft in its arsenal. They are lots of other factors to take into counting as well other than just one stealth aircraft.

Supporting Evidence: 5th Generation aircraft info (en.wikipedia.org)
1 year ago | Side: No, almost impossible
0 points

They have the stealth they stole from any number of countries.

2 years ago | Side: Yes, doable
0 points

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v;=WMsbsgLJ8O4&NR;=1

Here are the Chinese doing what they do best - being assholes.

2 years ago | Side: Yes, doable
collegedr40(1) Disputed
3 points

your name is GiganticCock... that is all.......................................

2 years ago | Side: No, almost impossible
-1 points

Their stealth aircraft are just another lame example of how they steal ideas and act like it is an important and great accomplishment!

2 years ago | Side: Yes, doable
vepture(4) Disputed
1 point

No. If fact, the Chengdu-J20 was made by Chinese inventors

1 year ago | Side: No, almost impossible
4 points

While China has more troops, they don't have the equipment to utilize those troops. The Chinese may have the largest infantry, but the United States has the most advanced technology, the largest navy, the largest air force, and a lot more purchasing power.

4 years ago | Side: yes, doable
Yojimbosoul(8) Disputed
0 points

774 BILLION to China in debt... Where are you going to "buy" new technology?

Oh right... From CHINA.

4 years ago | Side: No, almost impossible
usafsoml(1) Disputed
2 points

If congress declares a state of war againts china, all debts to the country are void.

4 years ago | Side: yes, doable
sirius(366) Disputed
1 point

Just because the US is in debt with China, it doesn't mean that we buy our technology from them. You are an idiot. Btw, we still make three times the amount of money that the Chinese make.

4 years ago | Side: yes, doable
1 point

The US buys weapon tech from BAE, Lockheed Martin, and Boeing, and from many other other private companies.

1 year ago | Side: Yes, doable
HidekiTojo(147) Disputed
1 point

You idiotic bastard. Don't dispute if you don't have a clue what you are saying! China lives off the US, if it wasn't for the US, China would be what it was like years ago. Henceforth i support your stupidity and ignorance, what would the Earth be if it didn't have lesser minds to inhabit it like you?

1 year ago | Side: Yes, doable
vepture(4) Clarified
1 point

Now its 1.7 trillion debt to China and we dont buy technology from China

1 year ago | Side: Yes, doable
Anxk99(4) Clarified
1 point

774 billion isn't very much we are bout 14 trillion in debt

300 days ago | Side: Yes, doable
maomao76(26) Disputed
0 points

Advance technology won't protect you from flying bullets. American may have advance technology but it is also their weakness. You blind a 300lb man and he will be harmless. You take out the sat's and every system that depends on it will be venerable. China's ASBM's can take out the U.S navy, so far there is no system in U.S that can counter it. The U.S builds the biggest navy but China can take it out with just a ASBM's. They can manufacture thousands of those, can the U.S build ships as fast? The weapon is the key to defeating your enemy, China knows that. Who's knows maybe in the future China will have a quantum missle that can disable every ship with one shot.

4 years ago | Side: No, almost impossible
sirius(366) Disputed
2 points

"You take out the sat's and every system that depends on it will be venerable."- you act like taking down a satellite is easy. Not only would the Chinese have to locate our satellites, which is close to impossible, but they would have to aim and shoot them down perfectly, which is also basically impossible. Shooting down our satellites is definitely not a viable option.

"China's ASBM's can take out the U.S navy"- good luck going after American submarines.

"Who's knows maybe in the future China will have a quantum missle that can disable every ship with one shot."- how old are you? Ten years old?

4 years ago | Side: yes, doable
drreww(1) Disputed
1 point

China's ASBM is another stolen technology... the reason china cannot win is simple. 70 percent of the world joins the U.S. and 20 percent stand idle. Second! China does not have the will to fight. It is sad that anyone would stand up for a country that allows only 10 percent of there people enjoy a good life and controls the life of every human in their country. This is how strong China's will is: They become communist and state that the capitalist countries are wrong and must be destroyed...yet they become capitalist pigs themselves proving both their will is weak ad America was always right. Being ex-military I can tell you nothing china has can match what we hide. Your power in China would be knocked out in 30 minutes or less. Our special ops would be in your country hitting vital points. The air will belong to the U.S. and its allies in a matter of days, maybe a week. China's economy will fall because although we owe them money. IT IS ALL AMERICA'S MONEY! ALL OF IT! CHINA LOSES IN ONE YEAR! ONE FINAL THING TO REALIZE THE PEOPLE OF CHINA, THAT 90 PERCENT WILL FIGHT AGAINST CHINA'S GOVERNMENT. COMMUNISM IS WRONG!

1 year ago | Side: Yes, doable
HidekiTojo(147) Disputed
1 point

Wow. You forgot the fact that the US would probably distribute that kind of technology before China would. China makes cheap rip-offs of things other countries produce, like the Chinese type 56 assualt rifle, copy of the USSR's AK47, or the SKS rifle copy of the the USSR's Mosin Nagant, although they have slightly different looks.

1 year ago | Side: Yes, doable
Mgeezy Disputed
1 point

You also have to take into to account that the U.S. is roughly 20-30 Years ahead in techs from china, and that is just what we know of. For all we know there is already quantum systems in the U.S.A.

1 year ago | Side: No, almost impossible
3 points

Maybe, maybe, maybe, the USA. Only because the USA has such a large and technologically advanced military.

As for any other, probably not. It would need to be a large, strong alliance that goes after the Chinese. I really don't know much about their military, but I know enough to know it's very large. Quantity, in this case, probably beats quality.

5 years ago | Side: yes, doable
3 points

Plus China's economy is tied to the US' economy and if The U.S. stopped trading with China then China would fall apart.

5 years ago | Side: yes, doable
4 points

Actually, we'd probably suffer far more if we stopped trading with China.

5 years ago | Side: yes, doable
3 points

True, but only to a point. The massive influx of money into the Chinese economy has given China a growing middle class, and soon this class will have enough money to support the economy of China alone, without trade from the US, but still with trade with other more minor countries.

Especially since the US has taken an opposing stance against Chinese made products, and in the future the imports and money spent on China will decrease, and Americans will find other places to get our goods, including, and get this, making it ourselves.

We've given them a boost, and it may backfire.

5 years ago | Side: yes, doable
NOOBSLAYER78(2) Disputed
1 point

Hey Tugman, but you have to remember, both of these countries' buisnesses would fall apart. If stores can't afford to buy merchandise, then the country gets angry and it would just cause chaos in the United States with riots and uprisings. Then money will be more, I guess you could call it, Scarce in both countries. America might be able to support themselves alone, but you have to think, the US hasn't supported themselves since 1941.

And if the United States can't support itself, then what would they have accomplished???

2 years ago | Side: No, almost impossible
Axmeister(4299) Disputed
0 points

china is mainly secondary buisnesses so they buy primary goods and manufacture them. All they need to do is sell it and they dont have to sell it to the U.S

4 years ago | Side: No, almost impossible
joshypants Disputed
0 points

not true at all china dosnt depend on just the u.s china also trades with russia. they have been for years. if we go to war with china then russia will 100 percent back up china and so will korea. many ppl dont realize the huge tie that those three have with eachother but it comes with the territory. both wanting parts of the u.s china wants one part and so does russia where as north korea wants alaska. we would b fighting for our lives if we went to war with either one of them. ya we are one tough country but in that fight it wouldnt be an easy one

3 years ago | Side: No, almost impossible
0 points

Yeah America could take China in a 1 on 1 war. But if they went into total war they would have 300,000,000 troops & we would have 50,000,000 troops.

We would be outnumbered 6-1. But since our warfare is better it might be a tie.

India could have 200,000,000 troops 2/3 of China's army. But the Chinese have better warfare than India & most of the Indians are Hindu pacifists.

5 years ago | Side: No, almost impossible
Davisonian(4) Clarified
1 point

Let's clarify one thing, Troop numbers mean nothing in these times other than having the minimal amount. The last time troop numbers meant anything was the Korean conflict where China sent hundreds of thousands across the boarder to die. Without those numbers the North would have surely been defeated and United Korea would exist today. This is not like the early 1900, ww1 or ww2 for that matter, just look at the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan the Mujahideen had over 250,000 ground troop to 650,000 Soviet troops and troop strengths had no consequence on the outcome. It is a new day of war and the amount of troops you can muster no longer dictates your strength or guarantee of winning. Today the strongest asset is controlling the sea's and no Country currently on earth can come close to comparing with the US technologically with our Naval force.

275 days ago | Side: Yes, doable
3 points

China has numbers, not technology and power. Just because they have a billion people, doesn't mean their army is trained enough to defeat any nation. An army of up to 300 million peons won't necessarily defeat an army of 50 million trained soldiers.

5 years ago | Side: yes, doable
2 points

How did you know China could have 300,000,000 troops & America could have 50,000,000 troops?

Did you read cia.gov world factbook?

5 years ago | Side: No, almost impossible
MKIced(2308) Disputed
1 point

No. I just pulled some numbers out of my a$$ :)

I say 300mil because that'd be 1 out of every 4 people (1.2bil) and 50mil because it'd be 1 out of every 6 people (300mil) and I feel as if China would be able to get more people in a draft than America could, but they might not be as well trained...

5 years ago | Side: yes, doable
1 point

Plus if we do go to war with China we will more than likely have veterans that have actually fought in a war going against rookies in the war department.

2 years ago | Side: Yes, doable
3 points

Any war between two nuclear superpowers would be absolutely devastating on a scale never seen before. I, do think, however that the US and a handful of other countries could take out China, due to the fact the America's military spending is far and away the largest in the world.

5 years ago | Side: yes, doable
Yojimbosoul(8) Disputed
2 points

Just because China says it spend $1 on weapons each year doesn't mean it is spending that much...

Read carefully: it an ESTIMATED value.

it could be $100 off to $100 billion off...

China isn't known for its good number tracking books and statistics.

4 years ago | Side: No, almost impossible
brettsinc(5) Disputed
1 point

Ok so it is estimated that China spends 70 Billion on Military

The USA spends 700 Billion on Military, 1.35 Trillion in the Department of National Defense (which is more then Chinas entire GDP), so personally, they could be 500 billion off and the US would still spend more then China could produce ... this isn't a good question, it should be is there any 2 countries that can defeat the US in a war ... answer probably not unless you count the EU as one country ;)

3 years ago | Side: yes, doable
randyrbp(6) Disputed
2 points

Yeah,

Our military spending is more so we can hire peter puffers and redo our thinking to accomodate women, queers etc.

China is smart enough not to have political crap like that.

4 years ago | Side: No, almost impossible
rugby1(6) Disputed
2 points

Woah the more people you let in the military the more people you have to fight a much larger army.

2 years ago | Side: Yes, doable
Crewchief409 Disputed
1 point

Hey you better watch it, I'm in the military and last time I checked I work with some "Peter puffers" and woman that'll do a hell of a better job then you to load a full payload and bomb the outta some country. I'm straight but one of the guys at work I don't like so much and is queer but I'll tell you what he knows his shit and he's one of the best at his job and when I need help with the aircraft or I don't know something I go to him.

2 years ago | Side: Yes, doable
0 points

you are 110% correct on that one i believe that china is smarter when it comes to that. i believe the "women and queers" do have a large role in our military but i also believe we would be doing just as well without them.

2 years ago | Side: The Truth
1 point

exactly. There is no possible way for china to wage war on any of the first world countries and if they did they would get there ass smeared off the face of the earth, which would piss off a punch of other countries, resulting in a nuclear war unimaginably horrible that would most likely turn earth into radioactive sludge. If using conventional warfare, china, no matter how many of your fantasy cyber or even well trained soldiers, would not, could not, and will never be able to take on the world. Taking the USA is taking the UN, which is asking for there country to be smeared like it was butter.EVEN IF the USA went to war solo (which they wouldn't dare) China's economy would crumble. None of these weapons that you talk about can sink any of our ships, shoot down most of our planes, destroy a large number of our tanks. Even the infantry would be safe. In addition, the morale of the Chinese soldiers is pathetic since most of them are farm boys who are told that the evil democratic Americans will destroy China and there culture. Then they get there ass captured or shot off by war hardened, superior equipped, SMARTER enemies. Those who had survived will be captured and then realize how stupid and idiotic there communist government is. This was exactly what happened in the Korean war where Mcarther went and chewed the north koreans like gum and then spit them out back towards there home land a couple hundred miles back. Then the retarded Chinese came and lost about 1 MILLION soldiers to AMERICAN soldiers. Then the captured Chinese and Koreans realized that they had been lied to and wanted to live in America. Some went home most didn't. Then the pride of the Chinese made them demanded there soldiers back and force them to live in communist China. NOTHINGS changed. Same thing will happen but on a larger scale and full war wouldn't break out because the Chinese would be losing millions of soldiers at a time and would be running home crying blaming the world for all there soldiers deaths.

4 years ago | Side: beyond easy
Cinaman1998(37) Disputed
2 points

Are you stupid, who care about number of soldiers,planes and all that crap, china could rip most of the un to pieces if they wanted there money, they would be forced to sell ammo,guns, bombers, subs,tanks, all tools for war and they would still end up in another great depression screwing the rest of the un, allowing china to kill them all, plus russia would ally with china not against

2 years ago | Side: No, almost impossible
3 points

Here is a report I wrote about this a while ago, it's a little outdated not, the PLA uses the QBZ95 (or whatever it is) now, instead of the M56.

The Chinese People’s Liberation Army and the United States Armed Forces are two of the strongest militaries in the world. The US Military has been around since October 13, 1775. It has five branches, with 1.5 million personnel in all, the second largest military in the world. Meanwhile, the Chinese People’s Liberation Army has five branches, too, with a total of three million personnel, making it the largest military in the world. The PLA was founded relatively recently, on August 1st, 1927. The US Military Leader is Robert Gates, Secretary of Defense, while the Chinese Military Leader is General Liang Guanglie. In general, the US Armed Forces and People’s Liberation Army are very similar.

Tanks make up a large part of a war, and good tanks provide the necessary armor and guns needed for attacking enemy bases. The US Armed Forces have 9,000+ tanks, while the Chinese have about 7,000+. The American M1A2 Abrams is a 67.6 ton killing machine. It has a four-man crew, and armor made out of Chobham, RH Armor, and steel encased depleted uranium (1.7 times denser than lead). The Abrams also packs a punch, with a 120mm smoothbore cannon, .50 cal coaxial machine gun, and two M240 (7.62) machine guns. The PLA’s ZTZ99 is another gargantuan of death. Weighing in at 58 tons, with a three-man crew and armor that isn’t even available to the public, the ZTZ packs an even bigger punch than the Abrams, with a 125mm smoothbore cannon, and 7.62 coaxial machine gun, and a T85 Heavy Machine Gun. Despite the bigger punch of the ZTZ 99, I would rather be in an Abrams because the extra machine guns would come in handy against enemy infantry.

Without infantry, tanks are good targets, so infantry is important as well. The Americans are armed with the M16 or M4 carbine assault rifle, 5.56, with the powerful M203 grenade launcher. The Chinese assault rifle isn’t as original. It is the Chinese knock off of the Russian Avtomat Kalashkinov 47, or AK47. The Chinese call it the M56, shooting 7.62 rounds. This is a little off topic but the AK47 was actually developed in 1947, and only released in 1949, so I think it should be called the AK49. To join the US Armed Forces, you have to be 18 yrs old or older, and to join the Army you have to be less than 42. To join the Navy, you must be less than 34, to join the Air Force, less than 27, to join the Marines, less than 28, and, to join the Coast Guard, less than 27. For the PLA, you have to be at least 14 to join and become an engineer and/or any other non fighting personnel; however, you have to be at least 18 to fight, and less than age 49. Only men are allowed to fight in the PLA. The PLA has 2.3 million active, and 800,000 people on reserve, while the US has I think that the American infantry is better, even though the Chinese have more men; the Americans have the M203 Grenade Launcher attachment, so they are able to bombard the enemy with explosives.

Ever since the dawn of the fighter plane, no war has ever been won without air dominance, not counting guerilla warfare wars. The Chinese best fighter plane is the new fourth generation J10, armed with a 123mm twin barreled cannon, 90mm unguided rockets, PL12 air-to-air missiles, YJ-9K air-to-surface missiles, and LT9 laser guided bombs. In general, the Chinese weapon load out is slightly more basic than the American. China only has about 168-196 of the J10s, with a large amount of Russian MiG29s, too. The J10 costs about $28 million dollars as opposed to the $142.6 million for the American F22. The USAF and Navy use the F15, the F16, the F18, and the world’s only Fifth Generation Fighter, The Stealth Fighter F22 Raptor. The F22 is armed with a 122mm M61A2 vulcan gattling gun. For air-to-air missions, the F22 has 6 AIM -120 AMRAM, and 2 AIM9 Sidewinder missiles. For air-to-ground missions, the F22 has 2 AIM-120 AMRAAM, and 2 AIM9 Sidewinder. Generally, the F22’s load out is a more recent style of fighting. I would compare it to the phalanx vs. legionnaire comparison (ancient styles of warfare). The phalanx was older and could not compete with the new, flexible legions of Rome, something that was proven at the battle of Cynoscephalae, where Rome defeated Philip V of Macedon. In simulation, the F22 took down F16s. China’s J10 was made to compete with the F16 and other fourth generation fighters. However, the J10 is not able to lock onto the F22 or see it on its radar. There is a plan to make 187 F22s, (142 made as of Sept. 2009). The USAF and Navy have 9,200+ (3,700 USN and 5,200 USAF) aircrafts in all, while Chinese aircraft number at 2,000+. Once again, I have to favor the Americans. The new F22 is so cutting edge; the PLA mainly rely on guided missiles, but if they cannot lock on to the F22, then they are sitting ducks.

In my opinion, the Navy is the best part about any military, especially if China were to go to war with the US. I know that during WWII, the battle for the Pacific would determine the winner, Japan or America. I think a war between China and the US would be somewhat similar; whoever would have the ocean would have the war, especially because all of China’s major cities are on the coast. To compare, the US Navy has 332,000 personnel; while the PLA has 250,000 navy personnel. The USN has 11 aircraft carriers (largest AC fleet in the world). The USN also has 10 amphibious assault ships, 9 amphibious transport docks, 12 dock landing ships, 22 cruisers, 55 destroyers, 30 frigates, and 71 submarines. By contrast, the PLA has 58 submarines, 77 principal surface combatants, 84 amphibious warfare ships, 387 coastal warfare ships, 370-480 LCPs (Landing Crafts), and 150 auxiliary/support vessels. In general, this means that China has more ships, but they are not as big and powerful as the American ships. The US Navy’s fleet is the largest in the world, and, in tonnage, is as big as the 13 navies behind it, including Russia, China, France and England. I think the sheer weight of the American force makes them better in the seas, too.

In conclusion, China’s military is amazingly strong, but America has just been a superpower for so long. I would compare it to the British vs. French Empires. Each was huge, but the British Empire was ever so slightly bigger. I would put the US as Britain in this comparison. Also, think America has the better military. I’m not a professional military tactician, though.

4 years ago | Side: yes, doable
maomao76(26) Disputed
1 point

I guess you haven't heard. China has developed and deployed the ASBM (anti-ship ballistic missiles) which gives China the upper hand in sea battles even if China navy is outdated. The ASBM can lock in on a ship at sea and sink it. It has built in evasive maneuver flight program in case it is targeted by the US missiles defense. I don't think they defense system can compensate if the ASBM change paths because the ASBM is too fast. These ASBM are on mobile platform so it would be hard for the US airforce to target. China can produce these ASBM by the thousands for cheap price, can the U.S build their ships as fast? The U.S navy might be bigger but the ASBM is the equalizer. It will denied the U.S from coming close to China shores. Add to the ASMB with the increasing Chinese attack sub fleet arm with the russian shkval torpedo, the U.S navy have little chance to make a shore landing in China. Futhermore,China's missiles will advance to a point where surface warships are irrelevant. The missiles will determine all battles in future. This is a glimpse of where China's missiles is heading.

Supporting Evidence: Chinese missles (memory-alpha.org)
4 years ago | Side: No, almost impossible
Houston(186) Disputed
1 point

As a matter of fact I have heard of the ASBMs. Any ballistic missile America has can lock onto a ship, we have thousands of satellites, we can see and lock on to anything in the entire world. By the way, China doesn't have anything to locate and lock onto our ships with.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-ship_ballistic_missile

4 years ago | Side: yes, doable
brettsinc(5) Disputed
1 point

And the US has had more missile systems more complex since the cold war, therefore we can reduce both navies to 0 in the fight making air force the main way of delivering soldiers and adding (in your scenario) a weight of 2 to the air force, where the US reigns supreme. So either way you compare the militaries, it is 3 out of 3 for the US of A. But in production (as proved and tested the US has the upper hand allowing it to produce more navel ships more quickly then any other country in the world, again 3/3)

3 years ago | Side: yes, doable
2 points

China is powerful, indeed. Their Reign of Terror has lasted for 60, long, dreadful years. As for their army, yes, it is undoubtfully large, and powerful. A Country may not be able to defeat China, as China cannot be won against with any technological advances (Bombs etc) too many civilian casualties will appear.

1.) The Chinese on Mainland will have to cause a big commotion that will distract the Government and the People's Liberation Army.

2.) The Western, Europeans, Pacific, South Asia, and the remaining Powers Unite Under One Alliance.

3.) Take out China's signals and jam their Satilleites.

4.) Pile troops into Shanghai, Manchuria, and the Inner parts of Mainland China.

5.) A Clear and Calm Mind Thinks Thoroughly. The Public will distract them, forcing them to show their flaws.

6.) Troops, Armoury, Artilery, Vehicles, Any Type of Offnesive Technological Weapons will be confiscated by the United Westeurasian Alliance, and the air, ground, and water weaponry, be destroyed or pushed to a halt.

7.) Assemble Parachut-troops to invade Beijing in the strongest armed forces in numbers and firepower ever recorded in history of humanity. March through Beijing; using the "Take No Prisoner" for the PLA resistant Forces.

8.) Arrest the Leading Members of the Communist Party and hold them hostage, while the rest of the United Powers of Westeurasia (Western Powers, European Powers, Remaining Asian Powers) force the Chinese People's Liberation Army to a halt and surrender.

9.) World will be under alert for any missing leaders of the CCP, and then they can track them down for the great times to come for the Chinese people who will have democracy, and those provinces or states in China to have their seperatism granted for their own sovreign state (re)built!

Yes, pretty unrealistic, but it's the skeleton of a more better plan I have in mind I believe.... No flame please :)

4 years ago | Side: yes, doable
1 point

yes i agree with what your saying on this except for the asia part. i do not believe that any country in aisa would stand by either euro or the us against china. but i do believe that there is a war coming and very soon. i along with the rest of the world do not want this but the us will not stand for another country becoming more powerful then them and will drag every1 else into the argument.

2 years ago | Side: yes, doable
2 points

1) It would never happen. The USA trade with China is to large to risk losing.

2) I don't know what you people are smoking, but there is no such thing as a "Cyber soldier"

3) China's fleet is not even close to the size it would need to be to transport even a fraction of the so called "300 million" Chinese troops.

4) The USA has over 2600 more hydrogen bombs a.k.a fusion bombs than anyone else which spells out for those, who can't see the truth in front of them, total annihilation.

5) Even if the USA resorted to conventional warfare, the US has 12 aircraft carriers that have an average of 85 aircraft. Do the math. That's over 1100 aircraft that can be sailed from pearl into Chinese territory which can indeed hunt and destroy the Chinese fleet to extinction and bomb them to rubble.

6) This magical massive submersible fleet is indeed much smaller and is going to slow down in production as soon as Russia runs out of unused submarines.

7) Lastly the US doesn't need to conquer all of china...just needs to cripple them and willingly surrenders or just there troops just run out of hope and give up.

THE CHINESE AREN'T THAT POWERFUL!!!!!

4 years ago | Side: yes, doable
Yojimbosoul(8) Disputed
2 points

So why doesn't the US attack?

Because they CAN'T...

US isn't all powerful. They don't even have healthcare.

Sad...

About point 4)

So does China... And they can build... a lot more.

1) They have the money - US does not

2) They have the mind power - US does not

3) They have the area to test them - US does not

4) Where does US get their technologically advanced equipment? CHINA!!!!!

5) China isn't technologically ADVANCED as the US, but you are missing the point here... They have 1 thing. MISSILES

Ever heard of that? Yea, the pointy thing that sinks ships.

Oh the S-300 missile system owns your "1100 aircrafts" whicht he US can't correctly assimilate.

You are basically assuming that China will wait 8 years for all your carriers to return back to the US, refuel, re-arm, and sail to China... 8 years...

What is going to make China turn a blind eye for 8 YEARS???

774 BILLION of debt is more than enough to cripple the US and send the whole country into a depression it will never recover from.

4 years ago | Side: No, almost impossible
sirius(366) Disputed
4 points

"So why doesn't the US attack?"- why would we just randomly attack China?

"US isn't all powerful."- the United States is proven to be the strongest country in the world.

"They don't even have healthcare."- we do have healthcare, its just not public.

"1) They have the money - US does not"- the US makes three times the money China makes a year.

"2) They have the mind power - US does not"- um stereotype? The United States can afford to pay its workers the most in the world, thats why we have a lot of the smartest people in the world.

"3) They have the area to test them - US does not"- if you are talking about atomic bombs, then we do have places to test them and have done so in the past.

"4) Where does US get their technologically advanced equipment? CHINA!!!!!"- name some of the equipment we get from China. I won't be surprised if you have nothing to say to this.

"5) China isn't technologically ADVANCED as the US, but you are missing the point here... They have 1 thing. MISSILES"- didn't you just say that we get out technology from China? How could they not be as advanced as us? Also, does the United States not have missiles?

"Oh the S-300 missile system owns your "1100 aircrafts" whicht he US can't correctly assimilate."- lol, the S-300 cant even detect some of our aircraft. What do you mean we can't "assimilate" our aircraft?

"You are basically assuming that China will wait 8 years for all your carriers to return back to the US, refuel, re-arm, and sail to China... 8 years..."- the US ships don't have to return to the US to refuel or re-arm, we have docks and bases around the world.

"What is going to make China turn a blind eye for 8 YEARS???"- do you really think that it will take a whole eight years to re-arm ourselves or are you joking?

"774 BILLION of debt is more than enough to cripple the US and send the whole country into a depression it will never recover from."- i dont understand, the US already has China's money. The Chinese are not going to be getting it back if they go to war with us. We can just erase that debt. Btw, it wouldn't be considered a depression if the country did not recover from it.

4 years ago | Side: yes, doable
HidekiTojo(147) Disputed
2 points

You are an ignorant prick.

1) 80% of US weapons and defence system are supplied by BAE.

2) The M1A1 Thompson is AMERICAN made. (Relevant)

3) Ever heard of the Persian Gulf War, The Coalition defeated the Iraqis in 100 FRIGGIN hours.(mostly American troops)

4) Did you see the Mushroom clouds over Hiroshima and Nagasaki-- AMERICAN MADE.

5) China's "military" (more like a bunch of Chimpanzees in a marching band) is a joke.

6) All in all China "slumbering dragon" is going to suck Uncle Sam's firm Red,White,and Blue scrotum, once it awakens. XD

1 year ago | Side: No, almost impossible
2 points

First off, China is dirt poor. I'm not just saying the government is poor I mean ALL OF FRICKEN China is poor! There taxes are low, the average job pay is even lower and to top it off, your all under estimating the power of a nuclear missile. Just fire one damn Hydrogen bomb on a populated area and it would decimate not only the area of impact, but there would be nuclear fallout! In other words, there would be so much radiation EVERYWHERE. Another way of saying it would be that one bomb or missile that is armed with a nuclear payload would indeed (depends on the area and since we are talking about china I'd say this is accurate) at least five million civilians (Beijing has 13 mil so probably in a good case scenario would be at least 10 mil dead in a second) would be killed instantly AND then the radiation would kill all the survivors within a... im actually not sure but the Hiroshima bomb had a 2 mile radius of radiation and these are on our destroyers AMMO! Also the missles we use have EIGHT nukes on them and each ONE of them is at least 50 times more powerful than the Hiroshima bomb. With one nuke the world would suffer a crisis of global cancer and were talking about a WAR not ONE NUKE! I wish there was another option but yeah, ANY COUNTRY WITH A NUKE CAN DEFEAT CHINA AND THE LONG TERM AFFECT WOULD DEFEAT THE WORLD. China and the USA much less the world would risk the entire world turning into nuclear sludge. Yes, its doable. Easily.

4 years ago | Side: yes, doable
vepture(4) Disputed
1 point

One very important factor that you very stupidly forgot, CHINA HAS NUKES TOO and based on some other people on your side: CHINA CAN STEAL NUCLEAR TECHNOLOGY

1 year ago | Side: No, almost impossible
2 points

You are suggesting that if we war with china and win then our debt and our supplies will just disappear. Get this straight! THE WORLD DOES NOT REVOLVE AROUND CHINA!!! We have other area that we can get common and military goods. We make thirty percent of everything that comes into stock, forty percent from china, and thirty percent from other countries. In some ways that's good because people will start to get jobs And lets say that some how we can't sustain our economy,whats stopping us from making the Chinese give us goods if we conquered them? Also last time we conquered a country we gave them food, jobs, health care, and equal treatment and they became an amazing country...both of them. There names are Germany and Japan. The current economy would make it more difficult to do what we did with them in our current economy but we would be able to make or help china with there politics and economy.

4 years ago | Side: yes, doable
2 points

The freaking chinese would have no air support our airforce by far the most technologically advanced and the biggest in the world would make the chinese look like fish in a barell. That is if we decide we must win and screw all the U.N.'s rules. Also the Chinese have terrible troops. In the Korean war a combined total of 4,000 british and american troops plus artillery support killed 200,000 chinese in a single battle. We only lost about half our forces.

4 years ago | Side: The US could
2 points

Yes. Launch an nuclear attack without any warning. Bomb the bastards to high heaven before they see what's coming.

4 years ago | Side: yes, doable
2 points

y not?????? sure..........................there are many countries capable of doing it.....

4 years ago | Side: yes, doable

All you have to do is nuke them until they glow, and then shoot them in the dark ;)

4 years ago | Side: yes, doable
2 points

This doesn't even seem like a real issue. The easiest way to defeat China through war is to send them women.

4 years ago | Side: yes, doable
2 points

I believe the United States would be the best candidate. The main advantage the Chinese have over the United States is the sheer size of their military force, but as history has shown us simply having a bigger army does not assure victory. There are a number of factors you must consider. Who has homefield advantage? Who has more experienced soldiers? Who has better trained, equipped soldiers? Who has more experienced generals? Who has a stronger air fleet? Who has more resources? Who has better technology? Who has a stronger navy? Who has better intelligence gathering? Who has a more supportive civilian base. Who has a greater capacity to build weapons en mass?

It would be a very even match to say the least. At any rate it's just speculation.

At any rate this is just speculation.

4 years ago | Side: yes, doable
2 points

Yeah, America could defeat China in a 1 on 1 war. This would be really tough though, because if China got into a war with America, Iran and North Korea would automatically join them to get rid of America. However, America would have support from France, Britain, Japan, Canada, parts of the UK, Poland, etc. Well, if say America did lose, North Korea would invade China, and then all the Iran governments would invade North Korea. It would be a brutal war possibly making World War 3. However, the possibilities of China going to war with us is a 1/100 chance and the factor of them winning is nearly impossible. We are a major consumer of China's products and without us, their economic side would fall into pieces easily.

4 years ago | Side: yes, doable
2 points

The UK. I know it doesn't seem correct but it is. Firstly, the special relationship between The United States and The United Kingdom is strong; Stronger than any other alliance known to man. The military power of the US and indeed the cunning and wisdom af the RAF, The Royal Navy, and its special forces. Even though The US does not have a friendly relationship with Europe, the UK is a member of the EU, The UN, and NATO, the WTO, and indeed the commonwealth. So that's the power of; The US, UK France, Germany, Italy, Canada, Ireland etc. Against China! Easier said than done but that's fact. WE WOULD WIN. The opinion that Russia could win a world war is just a myth. Since the death of Stalin and The Soviet Union, nuclear weopons are their only threat; no military cunning, no decent air force or Army, and indeed no respect for their own Nation.

3 years ago | Side: yes, doable
2 points

Look, this is something everyone isn't considering. We are just common knowledge people, we don't know the advanced and highly classified military protocols for the United States going to war with China. And for those who think oh China can shoot down our satellites, well I rather doubt that with that knowledge the United States Department of Defense is just guna lay down and take it, "well they can shoot down our satellites, guess we should just give up". No, we have things in place to make sure that even if they did we could still have contact, etc. with our troops.

Also D.O.D. (department of defense) for the longest time has had strategic plans and instructions for how to attack and dismantle the army and government of every country on the face of the planet and these plans are updated all the time based on military intelligence.

As far as war with China goes I rather doubt invasion would even be considered a viable option for the United States military. Mostly likely we would do everything to avoid going to war and if we did end up going to war then our best option would be tactical nuclear weapons. If we didn't we would mostly likely do our best to surprise them. First we would deploy our naval fleet to sea and launch our stealth bomber from NORAD, then take our all their air and ground bases while our subs take out their subs and ships etc. and our carries will scrabble fighters to take out any they had in the air and our bomber to take out any ground forces on the move etc. Mostly likely the United States will "win" not to mention we would seize all chinese interests in America practically erasing our debt hahaha but for now the united states is the world's number one superpower and will remain that way for the foreseeable future.

3 years ago | Side: yes, doable
2 points

The US could Easily Defeat China, China has a very large army, BUT they lack the training and equipment that comes to US soldiers Standardly, All we would have to do to Defeat china is to use the Scorched earth policy, China is very Seld suficent on Agriculture all America would need to do is simply burn China's agriculture down (used by Russians to defeat Napoleon and Hitler) China would be in crisis and the government would have to divert resources to get food for its people and not all towards the war, America would simply starve china out, And being a 1st LT for the us army i know the limits of American troops, and America is very unified not so much in time of peace but look at WW2 America wasn't very united at all but once pearl harbor hit America joined together and won the war, America is the deadliest fighting force the world has ever seen, from Our stealth bombers, to our Special Forces, china can not match our Highly trained individuals, man for man America has china beat in every field, America took on china before in the Korean war, I do not know what general it was but he pushed them back all the way to china with a small force of ill suppled American Infantry. china would be no match for America, sure they got allot of little people with BB guns but America has an elite force with guns that we can hit you and Ur friend with out anyone seeing a flash. Only Chance china would have is to do a military draft recruiting everyone to fight in which even if they one the war there country would be in ruin, now if china ever invaded America it would be to easy, America can never be Conquered and ill tell you why. cause just about every American i know owns at least one gun so if china did ever get the balls to invade America there going to have to kill off the native population, cause i don't know about u guys but i ain't gona let no Chinese man tell me what to do.

3 years ago | Side: The US could
2 points

This situation has already been modeled, in considerable detail, by a series of games of Risk in my basement. As we all know, the first rule of risk is "Never start a land war in Asia". North America is a bastion surrounded my moats of ocean which provides 5 soldiers a turn, 5! Asia, by comparison, provides 7 and at the cost of considerably more risk in getting taken over. In all of my trials, China prevailed just twice, and the US prevailed more than 8 times. Therefore, I think we can all agree that this issue has been adequately settled. Good debate!

3 years ago | Side: yes, doable
2 points

Hi ..

Doable so long as you don't follow past military doctrine. There is no need to invade.

China's weakness is the same as Japan prior to WW2. lack of raw materials and food. Deny those and it will implode and fracture, strike at its ability to feed it people and produce replacement weaponry.. all over rover.

By creating a strong and aspiring middle class the seeds for major change are already sown in China.

China is more natural allie to the US than you may think .. remember they as a race / nation are the ultimate traders and business people.

To strike and follow up with a ground invasion is folly and outdated. Keep striking leadership centers, communication sites ( and install your own for propaganda).

That is how i would do it and deal with Iran a separate topic i know.

But lets all get on .. China has valued place as responsible citizen of Earth.

Cheers from NZ

2 years ago | Side: Yes, doable
1 point

India and US together can defeat the mighty chinese.India has troops and US has technology to take on the PLA. Russia won't interfere if india is involved, being a great friend of India. China's proxy, North Korea will get a great bashing if it intervenes

5 years ago | Side: yes, doable
1 point

We've got plans for everything. Everything. It's a matter of how far a country is willing to go to do it. It's completely possible, it's just that rules have to be broken, and if certain rules are broken, certain treaties are broken, and if certain treaties are broken, certain countries get mad.

I mean, at this point, China is among the world powers. A war with China doesn't get isolated. If a war with China and another world power starts, everyone is getting involved. Everyone.

4 years ago | Side: yes, doable
Yojimbosoul(8) Disputed
1 point

We are all looking at this the wrong way...

If China took a first strike advantage?

At China's GDP growth, any "cold war standoff" would only lead in US's loss...

In another world war, China and US would most likely not take sides...

I mean, that's what the U.N. is for right?

4 years ago | Side: No, almost impossible
1 point

Considering that the United States has the most powerful military, I think its accurate to say that China would lose in a war against America.

4 years ago | Side: yes, doable
1 point

I agree completely, and if it comes down to hand-to-hand fighting, well, I guess we could use our large American penises as swords!

4 years ago | Side: yes, doable
1 point

To win this horrible war , US must;

1. Choke their resources in Asia Pacific .

2. Lure and make their military stretch to Middle-East even further more, Europe.

3. Arrange new conflict zone at border between PLA with Vietnam & India & Russia.

4. Constant covert ops inside mainland like sabotage with Allied Forces ( NATO ).

5. Humanitarian effort on Northern China ( Mongolia ).

6. Strong propaganda for 100 years War to weaken their financial and motivation.

7. Divide and conquer only use foreign force ; Japan & Taiwan.

8. Ignore South and North Korea conflict at that time.

9. Set up Revolution for new Government.

10. Do not occupied any cities inside mainland, just islands ( Hongkong, Spartly , etc )

11. Apply how Sparta strategy at "Greco-Persian Wars " for modern times !

4 years ago | Side: The US could
1 point

Yes I 100% agree and the US would not stand alone something China fails to see. As an Australian and China being our largest trading partner, the major majority of the Australian people will always stand by our US brothers. They have always stood by us.

1 year ago | Side: Yes, doable
1 point

America can easily defeat China in a war because, the United States Navy would impose an immediate blockade of trade with China. Also, Chinese holdings of American debt would become worthless. These two major blows to the Chinese economy would devastate China. During the economic and political chaos, China would become easy prey to the superior American Air Force. Within days, the US Air Force would be able to take out every military installation in China. With Air Control of Chinese Air Space secure, the US Air Force would then shatter electrical, gas, rail, road, and water networks, crippling China. Finally, industrial centers would be bombed to eliminate all possibility of rebuilding. From that point, the Chinese people would have two choices, starvation or surrender. During this period the Communist regime, would lose the support of the military and there will be mass defections of Chinese troops. The military elite would likely seize power from the communist Party and begin proceedings for an unconditional surrender the United States of America.

3 years ago | Side: yes, doable
1 point

i thnk that america can. because we have the absolute best country (in my opinion) we have all the people from all over the world that we need. We have the technology from all ove the world that we need . And personaly I think that other countries would help us becaouse we've done so much to help them.

3 years ago | Side: The US could
1 point

America. Though it would be a long, hard fight that would probably escalate to a multi-national war, it would come down to this. China has a very large military, they also would be more likely to put a draft in place but America also has a few things. The most advanced military technology in the world, a very large and diverse military, many allies, and in the long run the most important thing, the largest nuclear weapons stockpile in the world. China would more than likely invade Taiwan which America would almost certainly try to prevent. Relations would then deteriorate and small-scale war would break out. At this point, america would gain the advantage and begin to push China back. In order to gain strength, China would ally with N. Korea. This is when things would get very interesting. N. Korea would start launching small scale nuclear attacks against America and it's allies as a warning. China would prevent N. Korea from launching large nuclear attacks to prevent global thermonuclear war but after so many casualties and attacks on the U.S., America would give China and its allies an ultimatum. Stop or we will destroy your cities and reproduce the devastation seen in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Japan at the end of the last world war. China would hesitate to withdraw and America would drop an atomic bomb in a large city, most likely Beijing. America wins.

3 years ago | Side: The US could
1 point

obviously we would win we have the marines no one can beat the marines

3 years ago | Side: yes, doable
1 point

No country is above defeat. Sheer man power and military might alone does not win wars. It may win a couple battles but that is the extent of it. When most people hear the word 'war' they automatically think of the fighting, ground troops, tanks etc. Diplomacy, politics, and all the stuff behind the scenes contribute greatly to a successful military campaign (whether it be offensive or defensive).

Attacking China itself is not impossible but not feasible either. An invasion would result in hundreds of thousands in casualties. Thus it would require a force more than double the D-Day invasion of Normandy in WWII. It's not possible to undertake such a venture alone. Invasion without allies is certain disaster. Which brings me to my next point. If China goes to war with anybody (besides India) then India would almost certainly see it as an opportunity and align themselves against China. Which poses a bit of a problem for China because India's allies can move troops and supplies through India instead of a direct sea-to-land invasion of mainland China.

Another course of action could be utilized over the long term. For example, the U.S. has a superior Navy and Air Force over China. They have bases in Japan and other islands on that side of the world. They could blockade major ports and slowly juice the economy while also bombing vital trade routes (railroads etc.) along with fuel dumps & factories to slow production. If you expect the war to last years it would be wise to hamper their economy in any fashion.

"All warfare is based on deception." - Sun Tzu

What better man to turn to in such a debate than the ancient Chinese general and philosopher. When it comes to war a smart policy is to follow an old saying of Benjamin Franklin, "Believe none of what you hear and only half of what you see".

3 years ago | Side: yes, doable

The United States would defeat China because China lacks any kind of an air force or aerial attack.

3 years ago | Side: yes, doable
1 point

Well if you study WWII history you could see by my name I. Like Germany, I'm not a racist but I. Like general paulus from the nazis in wwII. I think it is possible to beat china but it would be hard, they have a population of almost 1,400,000,000 wich is about 1/6 of the worlds population. A countries army is usually 2% of their population, but when a draft happens it can be every able bodied person wich could get up to 70% this would be unlikely but with china's communist like government it's possible. I live in the usa, their population is only 300,000,000 wich has no chance alone against china, but with the help of germany's army and ability to race ahead when it comes to war-time technnology plus britan,canada,france, and even poland it would still be a hard fight against russia, china, korea, and india but because of the willingfullness of citizens in the usa and its allies it would get us a bonus in manufactoring and other vital war needs such as food, money, cloths, ect. We could win, but it would be long and hard and china's side would have all of asia at one point, but we'd stop em at europe.

2 years ago | Side: yes, doable
1 point

well most of them for got Russia from top of china , USA from the right side of china and India from the bottom of china destory the china force..

2 years ago | Side: yes, doable
1 point

Yes Israel could beat them because they have most of the technology and they have a lot of weapons that are good also they have God on there side.

2 years ago | Side: yes, doable
1 point

Your very correct, not only does Israel have the power of the Lord on it's side and is God's country, but America would indoubtly defend Israel to the end. I am American, I am not Jewish, I am Christian. But, you are God's people and my savior's race, so I for one would give my life for your country and your God. I am Aryan with a strong German heritage and I am disgusted that my ancestors almost destroyed the true superior race. Hebrews.

2 years ago | Side: Yes, doable
1 point

subs, bombs, tanks, troops, be damned... none of you are thinking it through.. before you post again, please research HAARP... a large crop of satelite antennas in alaska... this is a u.s. weapon system... they will deny it.. but its there, in the middle of alaska... this is warfare technology... the united states government can controll weather... dont believe me ... dont be surprised when natural disasters start to hammer away at china... how are your billions of troops gonna fight the earthquake or tornado we just sent you???? if we send you a drout, and kill your crops how are you going to feed your troops??? if we make it overcast in beijing for 6 months how is it going to affect morale???? if desired we could bring china or any government to their knees by pushing buttons.... this talk of troops and subs and sinking fleets is just retarded... our technology is Waaaaay ahead of the times your even thinking of ... nukes and bombs and balistics is archaic old warfighting technology... why?? when we can control your weather...

2 years ago | Side: yes, doable
1 point

Yes, America has more weapons etc etc they can just launch a nuclear bomb to destroy the whole china

2 years ago | Side: yes, doable
1 point

Its actually quite simple, in terms of technology, navy, airforce, special forces, the US is unparalleled (With OBAMA in the office it might change though). In an all out war, crippling china could be done withing weeks from the defense line near JAPAN, bombing the coastline would destroy all their economic production sites and would devastate all their urban areas and military instalments. A few surgical stirkes could destroy the vast majority of their ICBM bases (The US could do that with their stealth capacity). China would react by sending as many troops into the battle, hoping that they would break through, but with their navy carrying them and their airforce supporting them, it would be an easy battle for the US. By this time people in China would start a popular revolution as even the little that they had would be taken from them due to war. Not to mention that the US economy could quickly adapt to war (Weve done it a few times before). History has showed us that the one thing Americans need to be the best is a good, inspirational leader (Reagan or Lincoln-like), unfortunately we dont have one yet.

2 years ago | Side: The US could
HollowWar(1) Clarified
1 point

About Obama, while he may end up weakening our military, apparently the other nations love the US having a black person, so the US wont be alone if they declare war while Obama fights. NATO would do it.

2 years ago | Side: Yes, doable

Antarctica and New Zealand ;)

...Don't get your panties in a knot, I'm only kidding ;)

2 years ago | Side: yes, doable
1 point

Stupid Idea. It is not in China's interest to go to war with any country, and it is not in any country's interest to go to war with China either. There are too many foreign investments within the country of China, to my knowledge the most recent study shows that there is about 110,000 Americans alone living in China not including citizens from other countries who also live there, so a war with China in China will lead international casualties and damage American and international investments in China.

I have been reading the whole thread and facepalm every time I hear something similar "We will just nuke them off the face of the earth" To answer the argument Yes, Yes you can definitely "Win" a war in theory if you nuke someone the last time I checked China is not a planet or a remote island... it is about 11 million square kilometers and piece of land sharing boarders with 14 countries with Russia and India and North Korea just to name a few. So Nuking China will spread radiation all over Asia and not just China alone.

Radiation will spread by air, and the amount of radiation caused by a war winning explosion which will win a war against China will decimate the whole world. Just look at the Fukishima Nuclear Power Plant meltdown which is no ware compared to a nuclear bomb but it's particles traveled far enough to reach our east coast.

Okay let's try something which isn't going to destroy the whole world, classical warfare... USA have the troops and the technology to stand a chance other countries shouldn't even bother with this unless they have an alliance. This could go both ways, USA becomes cocky and underestimates China's military power like some of the posters I read here then there is a chance USA will loose this fight, I see people posting things like Chinese armies is not well trained or their technologies sucks compared to ours, that could appear to be true but how many of you know that for a FACT.

I don't think any country can win a war against China... the only country that can is United States and even then I don't think we will have international support.

Yes, we have some international support in terms of our war against "terror"... We (The West) don't agree with China's policies but they have never used their military power to attack anyone (Except they tried to invade Japan in 1274 AD and that was the last time China invaded anyone, but failed)

Attacking China for America's gain will make is look even more unpopular with the rest of the world... If we wanted to go into war with China, if anyone has a desire to go into war with China we would have done it a long time ago. War with China is never going to happen, and if it does we will have the largest barbecue the world has ever seen and everyone is invited! It will not be a pretty sight.

Defending against an attack is fine... why start more wars? Pointless.

2 years ago | Side: It will never happen
1 point

Well the question is too general so it is hard to answer, but I think the answer for now is still yes. China's army is big in numbers as many people have pointe dout but that does not mean that they are able to moblize them all in the war. The question need to talk about where the war will take place. US an other countries will not invade china, that is stupid and dumb. As Hilter showed when you try to invade a country as big and as vast as Russia or China you will stretch your troops too thin. Sooner or later you are going to be in trouble. If however, we are talking about China invading Taiwan and US will move in to fight against China's army then we are talking about a whole new ball game. Logistically US still have more destroyers and Carriers than another armies in the world right now. China can have a much bigger population but if you can't them the soldiers then when what is the use? US have more troops stationed in the world than another countries so it means that is more mobile and already have bases to fight from rather than attacking from its homeland like China will have to do. China will never attack US homeland and US will not attack China at its homeland so the question is best asked based on where the war and conflict will occur at.

2 years ago | Side: yes, doable
1 point

There are a lot of debates like this. I don't feel like looking up the exact numbers again,

but basically the U.S. by itself could defeat China and the rest of the world combined if we got all gun-ho psycho about it.

We spend almost as much on our military as every country combined when you include the amount we spend for other countries that aren't technically considered our own military spending. Our technology is years beyond what any other country has and we can mass produce all of this quickly and well within our budget. We have something like 13 individual submarines at undisclosed locations across the globe, each of which have more nuclear capability than any single other country on earth, and they can hit any target on earth at any time insanely accurately with little more than a flip of a switch.

We literally have the best equipped and most highly trained military in the history of the world. Our special forces are, even for the time, more efficient than any fighting force in history from samurais to Roman legions to those dudes from 300. Our regular forces are almost equally impressive.

Not to take anything away from other countries like England, France, Germany, Australia, Canada, etc. But no one compares to the U.S. in this regard (and China's not on the list... in fact any one of those countries could defeat China by itself with just 1 or 2% of the US's planes, subs and battleships on loan.)

Now, as for China, they have a lot of people and nuclear missiles (don't tell Rick Perry, but yeah, China has nukes),

The problem is they have absolutely no way to arm all of these people, and no way to inspire them to actually want to die for the country that has kept their families in perpetual poverty for the last several thousand years. Their nukes can't get here. For every 100 planes they could put in the air 1 of our stealths could take down 90 of them.

Don't forget GDP either.

We have more wealth almost exponentially than any country on earth. People confuse debt with wealth, that's a smoke screen used for political manipulation though. If we wanted to we could pay off all of our debt by year's end. Our debt is like a billionaire taking out a million dollar loan to start a franchise, than writing it off each year as a loss just because he doesn't want to dip into his other investments.

We don't really need China's money if we're willing to pay a couple percents higher in taxes, and we'd still have one of the lowest tax rates in the Western world. We have the infrastructure and manufacturing in place to use that money to almost overnight produce almost a comical amount of advanced military equipment.

Wars against countries aren't a problem, it's the tiny insurgencies and terrorist groups that bother countries like the U.S. Even that can only harm us as much as we let them psychologically and through fear though.

Like Rome in the past, at this point the only thing that can take down the U.S. is the U.S. itself - not impossible, but certainly not something any single or combination of countries outside of the U.S. could do.

2 years ago | Side: It would be simple for the US
1 point

duh it would be bloody war but like other people have said America would sit back and bomb them.We invited computers really our cyber soilders would sauce them. We have the best air force best navy and amoung the best ground support in the world they may out number us 6-1 but the kill rito would be 5-1 in U.S. favor.They may have a huge ass army but where can it go hhahahaha marines can be deployed anywhere in the world in 6 hours or less

2 years ago | Side: The US could
1 point

Dear Boys and Girls, first of all I write this as a professional with the PhD who knows geopolitics, law and economy. It is obvious that there is lot of people from China here on this debate (so I understand ther patriotism). Secondly, WE MUST PRAY THAT WW3 NEVER HAPPENS. IF YOU WANT WAR PLEASE PLAY COMPUTER GAMES. The thing is that, before you make any assumption you must know that world's money is in hands of 4-5 Jewish families (Rotschild, Rockafeller, Savoy, Frescobaldi, and "British Royal Family"). Every war that has happened before was decided by their decision. Have they ever lost??? NO! Do you think they will get their investments in danger of collapse?? Their world order?? NO WAY! Despite this, you count planes, tanks etc..DO YOU THINK YOU :)) NOW WHAT EACH COUNTRY HAS??? VERY FUNNY!! China is now their experiment (they organized Mao's implementation to power in China). On the other hand, you underestimated power of ISRAEL (e.g.in 1973 they had 70 nukes, now you cannot imagine what they have), USA (solid superpower), EUROPE (750 million people), JAPAN, NATO (as an organisation), SOUTH AMERICA (EU and USA allies), INDONESIA (300 million - hate China) and many other countries who hate China. Notwithstanding, CHINA is a decent country, people work hard every day, they have never retaliated for the Nanking massacre made by the Japanesse, they are not fighters and warmongers in their deed. So, chill out!!!!!! The answer is YES. EVERY COUNTRY CAN BE BEATEN. IN THIS CASE: JEWS (ISRAEL) CAN BEAT THEM WITH A CLICK (they can destroy their market, world's market without a single bullet)- USA; EU; RUSSIA; and even CHINA are their instruments....

2 years ago | Side: yes, doable
1 point

First off. Who cares if china owes us something. When bullets start flying you think soldiers on the frontlines are gonna discuss politics? hell no. They could send 300,000,000 million soldiers and even with there economics you realize how much money, food, oil, fuel, electricity it would take to support that? also our military is all over the world. were not at all in full force in america. Now yes were badass we invented mcdonalds for christ sake and our military is pretty badass. But dont forget china is allied with north korea. so if we went to war with either were fighting two wars. I still think america will win. But get on youtube and research the chinese training. Who really cares anyway.. Ugh i want a Mcrib. lol.....

2 years ago | Side: Could go either way
1 point

It is possible anyone can beat any country in war with the right tatics and defenses.

2 years ago | Side: yes, doable
1 point

I think the usa is already surrounding china from India to Japan! The usa Govt. feel great confidence! I think they know something we don`t about it`s bio-chem ,space and Nuclear power. The usa does not advertise it`s secret war technology. They surprise an enemy with it! The usa looks to me that they are beyond that question and moving ahead.but I could be wrong,Hahahahhahahahahahhahahahahha!

2 years ago | Side: yes, doable
1 point

Japan beat them alone in a year in 1894 (first sino-japanese war)

and almost did again in the 2nd sino-japanese war (world war 2)

Germany Austria USA and a bunch of other countries invaded china came out victorious (Boxer Rebellion)

Opium wars Britain and France beat china

A bunch of Mongol tribes beat china when they had 10 times the manpower lol

Now For the Infamous china vs USA. If a war was to break out it would be best for USA to be on the Defensive to to their larger and Superior Naval and Air forces. Although the Chinese navy is moderately sized they have less than half the ships the USN does (the Ratio for Air forces is even bigger) So the Us would try to destroy the Chinese navy then they could just blockade the entire country (my guess the naval war will last just over a year) and then the Us can just bomb the hell out of china to submission. Also reports from Chinese staff show that the Chinese Navy and Air force is almost 20 years behind that of the west and 5 years when it comes to land technology

A more interesting fight would be a Unified Europe (except Russia and Turkey) vs China! A hyper power vs china is kind of one sided

2 years ago | Side: yes, doable
1 point

china has emp technology now so with 2 large emp bombs they can destroy americas entire electrical infratructure. its estimated that it would take 15 years to rebuild if we got hit. china has a standing military of 2.6 million and 40% of their army is mobilized(tanks, humvees, etc) our standing military is 1.2 million. If we killed half of the population of china they would still have 200 million more citizens than the U.S.. P.s. chinese are famous for tunnel warfare and they're midgets so good luck to whoever gets drafted. I was in the marines and that is one battle that id rather fight with the home team advantage. If we invade them we loose. If they invade america they loose. In my opinion the chinese are just waiting for obama to destroy our economy.

2 years ago | Side: yes, doable
KaiserDenEU(10) Disputed
1 point

Thats Vietnam not China but yes your right on usa being defensive though

the size of the chines Air force is just over 2000 planes (about a 1000 estitmated to be fighters)

The USAF has over 5000 fighters alone

2 years ago | Side: No, almost impossible
1 point

“Through my visit over the past couple of days in the United States, I am surprised by the sophistication of the U.S. military, including its weapons and equipment and doctrines and so on,” People’s Liberation Army leader General Chen Bingde said. “I can tell you that China does not have the capability to challenge the United States. As a matter of fact, the reconnaissance activities along China’s coast by U.S. military aircraft and vessels are seen in China as deterrents.”

For emphasis, the general added, “What I’m trying to say is that we do not have the capability to challenge the United States.”

“As it is known to all, the United States is a super-power in the world today; how can China easily have the ability to challenge it? That is simply not part of Chinese culture and we do not have that capability. We would strive for world peace, civility and development and well being of the whole humankind…The United States has far more advanced weapons and equipment.”

Chen took some exception to the accusation, insisting the routine test flight was not targeted at Gates’ visit, and questioned why similar issues were frequently raised to China but not the United States.

The general insisted, “After 30 years of reform and opening up, China’s economy has made tremendous progress and we are now the world’s second-largest economy…Our efforts to grow our economy is to ensure that the 1.3 billion people are better off. We do not want to use the money to buy equipment or advanced weapons systems to challenge the United States.”

All of these quotes were said by Top PLA general Chen Bingde in a vist to the United States in early 2011

2 years ago | Side: yes, doable
1 point

Who Care about big scary missiles, tanks, training planes, and payload. the truth is chin could easy take down economies witch would in return screw the un and allow china to take the un, the one would could survive this is germany because their economy is the strongest, or russia because although it has a fucked economy it still has an alliance with china. only aid countries would remain. thus forth creating a huge amount of people in china again. and they could focus on what ever the fuck they want till someone pisses them off.

2 years ago | Side: yes, doable
1 point

There have been many cases of large countries being conquered by smaller ones.

Take into account the Yuan Dynasty of China, the mongolians whom were considered much weaker went to war with China. Seizing the right opportunities, the mongolians managed to capture China with a majorly inferior military in terms on numerical advantage.

2 years ago | Side: Yes, doable
1 point

With ease, Britain could do it themselves, yes this is a bias view but we could win a war by forcing there entire population into further poverty by simply cutting trade. The commonwealth of nations currently trade with China with more than 80% of Chinas trade coming from commonwealth nations.

Not only that, NATO would proberbly back a founding member such as Britain (So, Ireland, USA, France, Germany, Iceland ect) would all cease trade leaving Russia and North Korea only to trade with China.

USA have control over South Korea (sorry special friendship) so would give attacking forces a fantastic attacking position over the Chinese.

Although how true the above is, it is very unlikely that anyone will go to war with them as they are forever changing to a more accepting and less like a dictatorship, famously lifting some of there technology blocks recently.

2 years ago | Side: Yes, doable
1 point

Which country in the world as the most beautiful ladies and girls.

2 years ago | Side: Yes, doable

IF they were to ever go to war, there are many "x" factors that will take effect. 1 is that we have the largest imports from china, so that means we will stop buying stuff from them. There economy would go down since we wont buy anything. We can make our own stuff and we can buy stuff from other countries. We have a lot of space in the U.S. and they don't hence the overpopulation control. 2 we have the most technologically advanced fighting force in the world. We have the M1 M1A1 M1A2 Abrams, the M2 and M3 Bradly series, CAT mine resistant vehicles, Stryker, and that's just naming a few of the good stuff our ground forces have. Not only do we have that but our soldiers have air support. We can control the skies and put the enemy in shock making them think twice about coming near our plane. They currently have J-10's and the J-20 doesn't come out till 2018, there J-10 was no real match for our F-15 but guess what we don't use that any more. We have the F-22 Raptor which has a kill ratio of 108kills to 0 losses AGAINST the F-15, imagine against the J-10. We also have the F-15E strike eagle for coordinated air strikes. The F-16 series which has multiple purposes and the B-2 which can get in and out undetected at the same time giving the Chinese there worst nightmare. We can clear the skies and bomb them. Numbers don't mean shit there. Just carpet bomb them. We have the strongest navy and 16 aircraft carriers. They have only 1. Our tech is years ahead of them, our raptor prototype came out in 1990 and there's in 2011, about 20 years difference. We can sabotage with the navy seals and marine spec ops teams. Some say that our Raptors will eventually get wasted and run out of ammo but that doesn't mean anything because we can wipe out there air-born air craft and bomb there airfields easy peasy lemon squeezy. We also have a whole bunch of other stuff but the list is to long. Some say that what if china has something secret like an other new plane to use against us, well I say "but if that's true cane you imagine what kind of secret stuff we have, after all we are several years ahead of them. We will win, numbers don't mean anything.

2 years ago | Side: Yes, doable
1 point

Good point concerning high tech unknown equipment. I heard one of the former Directors of area 51 who said on a TV program that whatever the American public can imagine concerning technological advances at area 51, Area 51 advances are 50 yrs ahead of that!

1 year ago | Side: Yes, doable
1 point

It would be tough, China has a large land mass and population and they control the production of alot of goods.

But i think that some of the leading nations could do it.

2 years ago | Side: Yes, doable
1 point

korea is in the front of bieging so the korea is the starting point of attack of U.S. and the suppurt is japan. but china cant nuke asian country becuz it alert the other asian country around china and becoz its a treat to their country the will form an alliance to distroy china by the help of AMERICANz

2 years ago | Side: Yes, doable
1 point

to those asian country be aware that they attacking you on econonic and political strat. malaysia is now suffering that attack. many chines having the power to control thier political sacrecy. now they are suffering economical fall down. many of their people starts to studying mandarin and trying to convert themselves to become chines but china will just extract ther wealth and extract their integrity!!!!!!!!! pittyfull malays ur just like a philipino lol!!!!

2 years ago | Side: Yes, doable
1 point

Yes if and this is a big if if the whole of Europe the us south America and Europe fought with the help of supplies from the middle east and Africa as some African countries owe the west for us helping there conflict

2 years ago | Side: Yes, doable

The US is responsible for a third or so of all military spending in the world. I'm pretty sure they could kick China's arse. Also, America's got a shit ton of nukes. A smaller country like us (England) could put up a decent fight, but only because of our large navy. China would eventually win on pure numbers. In fact, with their birth rate, they could probably defeat us by catapulting us with newly born babies.

2 years ago | Side: Yes, doable
1 point

Well maybe if there wasn't a country called United States of America!! Really? If it really was all out war just between the two of them, U.S will remind them why they are the only real super power in the world. Not trying to hate on China, but there is nothing like USA!

2 years ago | Side: Yes, doable
1 point

Another thing is when that happend the russians were very weak and close to rebellion. later in the Soviet-Japanese territorial wars japan attacked china first and entered the Soviet zone of interest so they attacked until japan surrendered back russia's land and so russia couldnt attack them until between the two atomic bombings and in that time the russians relieved all of japanese controlled china

2 years ago | Side: Yes, doable

The war games isn't just troops and weaponry. The fact is that the German panzer was a superior soldier in the second world war. Much of German technology was superior as well.

But all armies travel on their bellies. And every society is three meals away from anarchy. So, it' s not just a question of how many troops China has or how many tanks, but

how deep is their supply chain. How long can they feed them? How long can they fuel their tanks? But I've already said all of this is really wrong thought. No one wins in war.

2 years ago | Side: Yes, doable
1 point

U.S could easily kick china ass i mean have you seen the defence budget U.S is spending. They are spending 6 times more than china. Yeah china have population and etc but U.S have armies and marines across all over the world they have 27,500 armies in south korea and they are not they just for the north korean they are also there because of china. Money really just speak for itself

1 year ago | Side: Yes, doable
1 point

yes a country which have messive power, weapon skill ,knowledge and development .

now days some country are so capable to defeat china in a war like usa ,russia and allied countries like european union and if some developed countries get fuse together they can fom a massive and terrible powerful union like if usa. russia and india get fuse together they can defeat china with ease

that's my point hope it help you

Well America has more weapons than any other country and we spend so much on military advancement so i would say yes but not just any country. An industrialized country yes but not a weak country. America could go toe to toe with china easily. So could Europe and maybe even Japan and South Korea. So i would say yeah.

1 year ago | Side: Yes, doable
1 point

Given the aggression and arrogance of those in control in addition to their status as a major world power, China would not resort to guerilla tactics; they would engage the enemy forces directly. This would be to the US's advantage, as finding and engaging enemies intermingled with a civilian population --as they have done during their most recent guerilla wars-- makes it much harder to flex the real airborne muscle. Rather than patrolling on the ground, air to air and air to surface engagements will be most significant. Although the strength of a nation's ground forces can never be ignored, modern warfare will depend on air superiority. Because of this, a militia formed by china's enormous population, often considered to be one of there greatest assets, would not be as formidable as expected. Relatively poor equipment like old soviet rpgs will not have any impact on the US's ability to dominate the skies, no matter where the field of battle ends up. The US has much more advanced aircraft and airborne weapons systems and in greater numbers; they have spent several times more on defense spending and weapons development than any other county on the planet. With the devastating effectiveness of today's weaponry, I think having a more technologically focused army is far more valuable than having an impressively large militia. This is not to say that china lacks an organized, professional fighting force, as they do not. However, the vast Chinese population is one of few areas in which China clearly trumps the United States and other western powers. For these reasons, a war between china and my chosen opposition, the United States, would be devastating for both sides. But, assuming that nuclear war doesn't commence and screw us all, A US victory is much more probable.

1 year ago | Side: Yes, doable

I honestly think the USA has enough military strength to crush China, if it saw fit. Lets look at some statistics, shall we? The United States currently has 10 one hundred thousand ton supercarriers in service. China has one 67 thousand ton carrier. The USA has 1400 F-18 Fighters, China has 1300 Q-2 Fighters. Both have a few dozen long range bombers. Just looking at this, the USA has MUCH greater sea power, and ability to mobilize aircraft than China. Although China has over 2 (2.2?) million active military personnel compared to the USA's over 1 million (1.4 or so?), their infrastructure (China is still in the throes of industrialization) and strategic reserves are nowhere near the USA's. In a conventional war, the USA is by far the most powerful military force in the world.

1 year ago | Side: Yes, doable
1 point

It would be hard but doable. Definately with allies, but why do we talk and fantanise about war? what about human nature makes us interested in this?

1 year ago | Side: Yes, doable
1 point

If China and go to war with the u.s the result will be waste of men. both sides have nuclear weapons and sleath planes. it just that thee u.s have better troops navy and air force. but in the end its going to be a draw and every one would lose men,money and land. the relationship would grow worse. i would like that thr fucken american pay the dept and sign a treaty. yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh bitchs

1 year ago | Side: Yes, doable
1 point

The United States possess one of the only military's in the world capable of defeated China on the battlefield, but there is an exception to this and that is what are the goals in defeating China. An invasion of Taiwan could be successfully repelled given enough time too build up forces. Chinese intervention in a second Korean war could be overcome given proper preparation. But mind you that the U.S. would suffer a great deal of casualties in a war with China so in what context are we choosing to fight China, for what reasons will decide our level of commitment. China would prove a worthy and powerful adversary today and undoubtedly has a very good assessment of U.S. capabilities and plans of countering that. With that said The U.S. undoubtedly has planned out every scenario in which a war with China could happen and plans to defeat China in these scenarios. No doubt the U.S. has a better military then China and U.S. ability to project these capabilities are far reaching to every corner of the Earth. We have the worlds largest Navy, larger then the next 13 countries Navy's combined. The U.S. has 10 active Carrier Groups with 2 Carriers in reserve.and close to 400 aircraft at their disposal. The U.S. has a highly trained, extremely well equipped, and very capable leadership. The U.S. military has a high amount of combat experience and lead personnel. Undoubtedly the U.S. could defeat China on the battlefield, but why would we go to war with China and what would our level of commitment be is the question. This would determine the level of support by U.S. citizenry which is vital to how we fight our wars. Let's hope that day doesn't come because I suspect there would be a high price to pay in a war with China in American blood both given and taking.

1 year ago | Side: Yes, doable
1 point

Israel could beat China because of the weaponary they have.

1 year ago | Side: Yes, doable
1 point

when i say doable, i mean that anything is possible. I mean, China supports the global economy. The last thing they want is to deplete their resources and manpower. The CHinese would rather surrender and keep their resources rather than be tired out by the U.S(guessing only nation that could pull this off). Also, the geography of China is very different than to that of any other nation on Earth. They hold power over the himalayas, swamps, plateaus, deserts, and plains. Essentially like the United States but just on a larger scale. The Chinese have also lost almost every war theyve been in for the past century. Although it seems impossible, a coalition between Russia, the commonwealth, and the United States could defeat China, but at the cost of a global economic disaster. So yes it is possible, but right out stupid.

1 year ago | Side: Yes, doable
1 point

Well.......nowadays, "one country" doesnt mean anything....we dont have 1 country vs. another country...its all about alliances...but yes china could be defeated...im not sure what would happen if they went to war with a non-USA ally in the east...but if they tried to fuck with a western country they would have to fight the entire west and they would have no chance...........but also, yes the usa could defeat them..do some research on things that official Chinese politicians say about the US military...they openly admit that we are by far the worlds most dominate military....infact just about every other country will as well

1 year ago | Side: Yes, doable
1 point

it depends but what would probably happen would bethat China invades Russia to take control of oil and mineral rich Siberia, of course the Russians would retaliate and beat the Chinese back,but they would lose many men and equipment in the process,then china would attack again taking Siberia from the weakened Russians, meanwhile we (the United States) would start supplying russia with equipment and food, and the European Union and the US and her allies (Japan, Israel,Australia,Canada) would put economic embargoes on China which would destroy China's economy. China would start to dominate Russia,and at that point Russia's allies (the Ukraine, most of the other ex-Soviet block nation would enter on her side, but that wouldn't really do much,add more of Russia is conquered by the Chinese, the USA and our closest allies (UK, France, Germany,Israel,Canada,Italy) would enter backing Russia, at that point china would demand all of our debt to them to be paid we with the backing of the EU would say no, and America with the best navy,air force and best trained army would first destroy any remaining Chinese navy vessels then attack China's China's mainland with carrier launched, by then, the new f-35c, destroying there air force, meanwhile or allies would reinforce the Russian army using mostly American equipment ( M1A2 tanks, f-35's, v-22's and A-10's) it will push back the chinese army, as the US devastate chinas maainland eventually it will end with Russia receiving much of China's north western territory, and America, as well as getting out of most of our debt, monitoring and creating a new democratic government in china.

1 year ago | Side: Yes, doable
1 point

SURE

The Panda Bear Nation Took Them Out

With Out One Bullet Fired

Love conquers ALL !

356 days ago | Side: Yes, doable
1 point

SURE

The Panda Bear Nation Took Them Out

With Out One Bullet Fired

Love conquers ALL !

356 days ago | Side: Yes, doable
1 point

Remember that manpower can be exhausted and money bled out. If every country were against China I don't see the impossibility. The same with a scenario of every country against the US. Unless the world explodes the one without belligerents cannot win. Even if the world does explode the one without allies still loses in the end.

337 days ago | Side: Yes, doable
1 point

The United States could defeat the Chinese Communist regime in a non-nuclear convention war. The size of the PLA (People's Liberation Army) is great and overshadows the United States, but the technological and overall superiority of the United States military far out shadows the Chinese. The United States have special forces that are trained to battle the enemy at a huge numerical disadvantage. Our military has the capability to deploy and sustain a military long military campaign in China. Also the United States has the best Navy in the history of the world, our super carriers and submarines have the ability to strike of 70% of the land of Earth from a distance with aircraft and tomahawk missiles. Also, what is the biggest component of the Chinese economy? Our companies there, if the those companies in the event of the war with China left for safety of their productions, the Chinese economy would collapse so fast and hard that the people would riot and the Chinese would be dealing with a Civil War along with having the most powerful military to deal with. The United States has the best Tank, the M1A1 Abrams, the Chinese have the Type 99 MBT which is barely on par to the M60 Patton. The US has the best naval with 11 carriers while China only has 1 carrier. The United States as drones and stealth bombers that fly out of the middle of the United States. Our special forces are feared around the world and have the capability to topple governments in days. So, the United States would win in a war with China, it also helps that Japan and South Korea would be definite allies and the UK, France, Germany, Canada and other EU members would help us as China is a humanitarian disaster that I don't know why is a security consul member.

257 days ago | Side: Yes, doable
1 point

yes!!!. China is decades behind United states. Even the Japanese or the south Koreans can defeat them one on one.. China will even have to compromise half of its arsenal if they would have full scale war with Taiwan... This countries are allied with the west and USA. With the expertise and technology transfer China will be having a hard time. However china can produce weapon replicas at low cost in the expense of quality. They does not need to spend much money for RD for they are good at stealing information. NATO alone is a big hindrance if china goes to war. if they attack any of its members China will be swarmed by missiles and everything.

188 days ago | Side: Yes, doable
1 point

First of all I think all of you are way far off... to understand this fist you must learn to understand Chinese ideology and culture. they first are not aggressive people by nature. second they are very patient people. and yes to seriously go by sun Tzu the art of war. like any country being invaded its only a common sence thing they will fight to the death. and some will coward out or some will defect. the army will split in half because most of them are forced against their will.. remember "tienamen square when the Chinese people protested and stood in the way of tanks. this issue Is why they don't invade and really they wouldn't have too... they would not invade us.. at least not out right. think about this if us go to war against china invade and all.. who else will line up with china Korea, Vietnam, Russia and Iran? now this is how stupid the united states is....

how many immigrants came freely to the united states? Since the late 1980s, hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants from China's Fujian province have been smuggled into the United States

Chinese cross into Mexico, they travel north and are smuggled across the border into America. Every week, 50 to 100 Chinese nationals are caught trying to cross the U.S.-Mexican border. Now with all of these who is who. who do we know is a sleeper cell or if all of them are peoples Liberation Army soldiers guiseing as illegal immigrants or looking for asylum? see we owe china trillions of dollars they already own California and florida. they don't want to destroy America or kill off americans that is too stupid for it is writtin sun Tzu to conquer a nation without a fight is far a greater victory than a thousand victories in battle... they need our resources and land. they will start from the inside of the united states to the outside and they are patient for 20 years they been building and working on their navy fleets. they don't need a good logistic all they need to come here with is rice fish and veggies until they start taking territories and lands then they would take all of our food from us to feed their armies but before they do all of this, it will be cyber warfare and media exploits trying to get the American people to turn on itself. they been doing this for years. and its working. they can slap the economy hard to collapse and so can we but we would have it harder than they because they are not stuck on their material things as we are which means we will bitch and cry to the government but to them the never had it good in the first place so it wouldn't matter. price of meat shit almost 5 dollars a pound already. water going up everything do Chinese worry much of stock market hell no... they got all the rice. and fish. so then the Chinese illegals will take control of all major airports when the time is right to let the rest of them fly on in while they probably coming also through Mexico and organ state which is the most vulnerable area in the united states.. all this with out a single shot.. see and heck it might just be given them they can invade with a million soldiers and still have 2 million for the second wave but we will take out and leave them maybe with a few hundred thousand people. they will not kill us off they need us to continue running the country until we teach Chinese how to run it we will be permanently slaves they will take away our homes give it to and car etc.... and throw their laws on us make us learn mandarin. this is why united states never think of invading china or vise versa why invade when they can just buy us out.. they will control us like they are doing Hong Kong. Now Russia will invade Ukraine and China wants to to be a powerful presence in the south china sea, and no for some dumb ass reason I don't know why Americans in Alaska want to succeed from the united states and go back to Russia.. No way not ever and then what Russia will feel them selves to be a liberator maybe an excuse for them to go into Alaska and take it... yeah I don't think this will be a good idea we may be able to beat china in a sprint but not in the 1 mile race. either side wont win anyways

158 days ago | Side: Yes, doable

They say that a journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.

The method for defeating China begins with the killing of a Chinese man.

But you have to kill them faster than they can reproduce and that's tough ;)

4 years ago | Side: yes, doable
3 points

Not any more =) China's "one child one family" policy is keeping their rabbit like breeding habits at bay =)

4 years ago | Side: yes, doable

Who knew that Chinese people were such sexual power houses ;)

I wonder if they are the ones who invented the phrase, "Me so horny!"

4 years ago | Side: yes, doable
0 points

Yes China can be defeated. To do so, first begin by limiting its economy power.

For the Western world powers or the Global stability,

1. Limit Economic power of Russia, India and China. (?) They are pretty closed and we surely not attacked each other if possible.

2. Deprive them of economic powers and no technological advancements will be made by them

3. Stop sending US companies to building massive technological projects in these countries. US economy downfall is largely due to China massive outputs due to cheap labors where most countries turn to China for production and in the end providing free technologies for them

4. With economy deprivation, focus on splitting their lands. Use all the pretexts and excuses you can come up with and split it up. Don't let Taiwan fall in the hands of China or more troubles will arise. Don't increase South Koreans technology as well.

5. If possible limit all exports on nuclear materials to any countries. USA should purchase them all.

6. Focus on the Middle East issue and not too much on the Human Rights issue in China, India or Russia. We all know they are crap.

7. Get as much oil from oil rich Arab or Brunei countries. How? Make them lose money. You can try war like Iraq. Send in teams to extract the oil out as much as possible. Create as much instability as possible in the country and don't let them get independence. Drain them dry in return for food and water but not technological advancements like weapons or computer systems. IRAN and PAKISTAN are big examples of that. IRAN is seeking weapons upgrade and PAKISTAN is seeking computer and technological systems upgrade.

8. Watch out for UAE, weaken their economy as much as possible best still to the rock bottom and also watch the big S: Saudi Arabia. Allies? Yeah right, you give them cash, they send terrors to your land. Not direct way though.

9. Now with oil secure and less economic output for oil with high input for oil then it is stable.

10. Yah Africa needs help but they spend time killing and piracy. Just get their resources out from this country. Too much efforts to help this country.

11. NOW back to the 3 countries issues: China, Russia n India.

12. Take them 3 out at the same time, will be suicide.

13. One at a time, start with India first, let Europe take down Russia. Slowly deprive India of Economic power and make sure none of their wealthiest get into any of the Forbes list. Guard well against their economy as Indians are good in bargains and businesses.

14. Once weakened, focus all out on China, India being poor now will have no threat and in due time can be used against China if needed.

15. China output production is SCARY LIKE HELL UNLEASHED. First target by reducing China products worldwide. Don't let US companies setup bases in China as technology will be lost or given free to China in this process.

16. Bycott China goods but not too obvious due to political reasons. Make sure the products from China in US markets are not selling well and due to that, will be returned back to China or goods are not up to standard or have safety issues.

17. Watch out for subsidaries companies as parental companies will bypass this weakness like the UAE bought the UK shipping company in recent which contain USA ports. That is a dangerous sale move for US and UK. US government should intervene and buy the ports of UK.

18. Limit the 3 countries companies from setting up too much in US or Europe

19. Now focus on creating political and cultural unrest in these 3 countries and step in to intervene using pretexts if possible.

20. Setup bases to monitor them but not to get involved too much. Also setup companies in their lands to drain resources.

21. Ensure all these 3 countries have no high or strong sustain economic status that is top priority. If you don't buy their products, money will not go into their accounts.

22. Without cash input, they will be using shovels and axes as weapons not bullets and rockets.

23. Finally, USA is way too layback tooooooo laid. In another 5 years time China will catch up with USA. India and then Russia.

24. This should weaken them for the time being.

25. It will be foolish not to think that attacking China and Russia will not get involved. So how? Russia and China and India which to attack first.

26. Try India first, India is the backyard of China and Russia. China is wary of Russia, so Russia needs to befriend India to safeguard against China. Russia has too many countries to guard against. Ranging from Europe to Middle East and China. Europe can guard against Russia along with Canada.

The disadvantages of high populuated countries would be food and water supplies. Too many input but too less output. Deprive them of this and you should end the battles in few months.

1. Attack India, destroy all their weaponary and bases disarm them with few easy tactics (not to disclose here) and India is under controlled and gone from history.

2. Now Russia and China will be shocked and will want to unite. How?

3. Another plan (not to disclose here) will make them not attacking USA but instead one of them will join USA. Likely to take Russia in as allies. Now China is panicking. The main warfront will be west and southwest of China. (Land) and the main naval front will be northeast, east and southeast of China. Blitz is useless in China land is tooooo big. Few tactics in here will sure conquer China (can't disclose here) but there is a hefty price to pay. Western parts of USA may be gone for good.

So it is possible to destroy not only China but also India and Russia for good. The main question is ???? AEONS OF LIVES WILL BE GONE. On the bright side, you will be crowned King of Saturns. But the world will be much peaceful without these 3 countries.

Suggested by: A Chinese (haha) (Not China Chinese!!!)

4 years ago | Side: yes, doable
Yojimbosoul(8) Disputed
2 points

2) They are the economic powers... Stopping them would kill the US and all the US will have in the end is one big Wal-mart.

3) The flaw of capitalism, people won't want to stop making money. Better hope they don't leave the US instead.

5) Can't... US have no money...

7) So... Attack MORE countries... Germany lost making too many fronts. You should learn.

8) Oh, excluding the fact that they hate US and will kill them for free? OH YEA, bribing them will help...

16) HA HA HA HA HA Boycott? This isn't the 1800, boycotting will just mess up the US tenfold...

19) Like in Iran? Yea US is winning THAT war... HA HA HA HA HA

26) Yea... TRY. Like the other countries don't know how to reinforce. OH yea, only the US would know a term like that.

4 years ago | Side: No, almost impossible
1 point

Oh yea, attacking so many countries doesn't end in a day. The US doesn't HAVE that time to fight that many countries and WIN...

Takes average 5~10 years...

Good luck.

You are just waiting for your army to be split into 50 pieces fighting everywhere...

4 years ago | Side: No, almost impossible
HidekiTojo(147) Disputed
1 point

We are not in Iran, fucking Jackass. If you are stating Germany is a enemy to the US, your are a Dumb-fuck. If you are intending that the US attacks defenseless countries what would you call Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan in WW2.. therefore you are a Dumb-fuck.

1 year ago | Side: Yes, doable
Saiesh(5) Disputed
1 point

Maybe Russia and China but not India because they side with the Americans!!

3 years ago | Side: No, almost impossible
Saiesh(5) Disputed
1 point

USA is not THAT powerful to do all that though!!

INdia is no threat!! Its an ally!!

3 years ago | Side: No, almost impossible
0 points

I had recently read that the USA army is so huge that it is bigger than the second to thirteenth place-acquiring countries combined together!!!

3 years ago | Side: yes, doable
manu4436(2) Disputed
0 points

if tht will happen then USA is gone.. no economic power..

2 years ago | Side: No, almost impossible
raptor22(103) Disputed
1 point

Its like people don't know how things work in the world economy. THE U.S. IS BY FAR THE LARGEST BUYER OF CHINESE GOODS. Without us, china's economy would be decimated and all of a sudden, China is no longer a power. Now this is based on the fact that America could produce something on its own, looking at its history, i for some reason be leave that we would thrive from this.

2 years ago | Side: No, almost impossible
0 points

Alot of people seem to be bringing up such things as china has the largest army in the world, and some even are talking about nukes. Lets get one thing straight, if China were to nuke us i am almost certain that either A. the bomb would blow up a couple cities, then we send back a bigger nuke. or B. They would bomb us, the explosion would be devasting (blowing up our whole country) and China celebrates and they win the war...

I would like to bring in my favorite tv show, UFO hunters. Area 51 is our best kept secret int he world. Everyones claims of how we are developing futuristic technology could be true, and we could be developing it to defend the US.

The thing that scares be is that what if we used this technology to try and take over the world for ourselves?

3 years ago | Side: Could go either way
1 point

Size does not matter in warfare. Look at the USSR, they went to Afghanistan in 1989, supposedly a "LARGE" army, and they got their Russo asses kicked by the Mujahideen, a bunch of LOCAL AFGHAN MEN! See China is nothing but a joke. Lets see how 1 million Bruce Lees' fancy against an infinite number of Chuck Norrises', China will be no more.

1 year ago | Side: Yes, doable
GuitarGuy(6124) Disputed
1 point

I think the USSR fought Afghanistan in 1979; not '89. I've also heard that the U.S. supplied Afghanistan with the weapons used to defeat the USSR; something that came back to bite us in the ass.

1 year ago | Side: No, almost impossible
-1 points

Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them? Yes no country/empire is unbeatable:Greek empire, Roman empire, the British empire, and Nazi Germany. Russo-Japanese war, Japan declared war on Russia, even though Japan was out numbered and out gunned Japan won. Remember just because you don't annex a country doesn't mean you lost a war.

4 years ago | Side: yes, doable
Yojimbosoul(8) Disputed
1 point

In your argument, you also are saying that China could defeat US because "no country/empire is unbeatable"...

Good argument, even though China is "less armed and technologically advanced" it can still win against the US.

:P

4 years ago | Side: No, almost impossible
1 point

Alexander the Great's empire was never defeated =). Instead when he died it split up =(.

4 years ago | Side: yes, doable
Bohemian(3464) Disputed
1 point

He didn't say no empire went unbeaten, he said no empire is unbeatable. Big difference.

4 years ago | Side: No, almost impossible
6 points

If conventional war with U.S, probably not. China's territory is too big. Their army is too big, China can draft 350,000,000 people to fight and still have a billion people left to replenish population. The U.S would be left with no one. The U.S might be technologically superior in arms but it's also their weakness. China can shoot down their sats which most US military depends on deal a mighty blow to their force. Without sats the US jets, bombers, carriers, ships,subs would not function 100%. U.S jets would would not dare to fly deep into China airspace without getting shot down. China is increasing their sub fleet to be the largest in the world. They will defeat the U.S navy with subs fleet. China will not go head on with U.S in battles, they will do sneaky attacks to wear U.S down then defeat them in a dragnet. China will unleash their cyber soldiers to weak havoc on U.S systems.

5 years ago | Side: No, almost impossible
sirius(366) Disputed
3 points

"China's territory is too big"- the United States probably wouldn't be able to successfully invade China, but China wouldn't be able to invade the United States either. Invading another country with the intention of taking over serves no purpose in modern times.

"China can draft 350,000,000 people to fight"- do you really think that they have the resources available to them to be able to utilize that amount of people? They have no where near enough money to arm and ship out those soldiers to desired locations.

"China can shoot down their sats which most US military depends on deal a mighty blow to their force."- do you really think that its that easy to not only find, but shoot down one of the thousands of satellites the US has in space? Not to mention, they would have to shoot down A LOT of satellites in order to actually deliver a large blow to US communications. China would have to bypass American missile interception and later have to be accurate enough to actually hit the satellite, which is obviously extremely difficult. The US, with its advanced technology, had a hard time shooting down one of their own satellites, and that was just one satellite. Also, the US couldn't do the same with Chinese satellites?

"U.S jets would would not dare to fly deep into China airspace without getting shot down."- the Chinese don't even have the technology available to detect American stealth aircraft. Also, considering the different sizes of the two airforces, I think that its accurate to say that it would be much easier for the US to invade China by air, than China invade the US by air. The US has 18,169 air-based weapons. China has 1,900 air-based weapons. There is no chance for the Chinese there.

"China is increasing their sub fleet to be the largest in the world."- currently the US has 75 submarines and China has 68. I wouldn't consider buying submarines off of Russia a good way to make your navy stronger. The US is also continuing to increase their number of submarines at the same rate, if not at a higher rate, than China.

"They will defeat the U.S navy with subs fleet. China will not go head on with U.S in battles, they will do sneaky attacks to wear U.S down then defeat them in a dragnet."- considering that the US has more submarines and that probably wont change, it would be difficult for China to "do sneaky attacks." If you consider a dragnet to be the tactic of dragging a net across the bottom of the ocean in the hope of catching a submarine, then that is a really horrible plan. In terms of water-based warfare, China can't win since the US has over double their amount of ships.

"China will unleash their cyber soldiers to weak havoc on U.S systems."- oh ok.

4 years ago | Side: yes, doable
2 points

It would be terribly unfortunate if the US and China were to go to war, but it would likely be as a result of tensions over Taiwan.

A war in China would likely drawn in a number of world powers, like Russia, possibly starting a large engagement of the super powers. Clearly democratic world powers would have some technological advantages. But, instability in some of the communist countries may lead to foolish decisions and a nuclear exchange, which means everyone world-wide would be a net looser. So, for the warmongers out there, lets hope this never occurs. Research nuclear proliferation to see who has the nukes around the Globe. There are enough nuclear arms to destroy the entire planet several times over, and don't think this wouldn't happen given in the event of a nuclear launch by any country. Nuclear facilities in all countries are ready to launch within a few minutes of notice.

In terms of invasion, China has a big disadvantage on US soil. If they were to invade the United States, keep in mind not only technological advantages, but also that 50% of the US population is armed under second amendment rights. Citizens alone have enough weaponry to arm every US citizen several times over and enough ammunition to eliminate any invader many times over. Its not uncommon for a gun owner in the United States to have 5,000-50,000 rounds of ammunition. So, Chinese military numbers would be less an issue given large para military and militia groups that would rise up in such an event in the United States. Note that China has fewer arms, and its illegal for their citizens to bear arms of any kind. War with the U.S. would not be fruitful if it couldn't ultimately result in a victory.

The United States isn't interested in invading China and would prefer peaceful, diplomatic solutions. If the United States and allies were to invade, air superiority in China would quickly be lost due to simple numbers and technological advances. Any military tactician knows that air superiority is the key to winning a war, though at some point troops must hit the ground. While Allied military forces have been hardened in recent battles across the globe, street engagements in China would result in a long grind and very heavy losses on both ends. Don't forget the Chinese army is well trained and equipped with effective soviet arms. They clearly have numbers of people willing to die in defense of their country. A total victory for the allies would be questionable, especially given China also has allies, and the costs would be great.

Net-net, any way you cut it, such a war would be bad business for us all. Its better that we all get along peacefully, and create a world defined by cooperation, less war, and elimination and reduction of nuclear and biological weapons that are non-discriminating and kill women, children and noncombatants. Before you encourage war, picture your friends, father, mother, kids, sisters, and brothers dying....because that's the reality. War is brutal business and just creates fuel for more conflict down the road.

2 years ago | Side: Yes, doable
mudkipz2(356) Disputed
1 point

no you fail to realize that amrica is so indesicive, so ununited in almsot every thing we do, that by the time we do somthing china will be at san francisico already. also we have a profesnial military which means only willing people join, mainly high shool drop outs, china has a peoples army, their population has to do milittary sevice. also what is americas motivation? again most soldiers who join are army do it becouse they have nothing better with their life, china's motivation is the wealth of america and the fact that you must honor your country. and yes china does have cyber soldiers to destroy us all. in the sense of fat asians with classes sitting behind pcs hacking the crap out of are electronic systmes.

4 years ago | Side: No, almost impossible
GiganticCock(5) Clarified
1 point

I believe we can count on Chinese self interest, and self delusion, to carry the day. I believe they delude themselves with what they think they know. What should really worry them is what THEY DON"T KNOW, that they do not know. They are a miserable people: check-out the video of how they kill their own: www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1UgTZOTjHg&feature;=related

They are the most cold-hearted scum on the earth after muslims. This video captures the "soul" of a typical chinese. They would rather walk away from a suffering child, than risk actually helping - this video is the real chinese at their best.

2 years ago | Side: Yes, doable
1 point

""China can draft 350,000,000 people to fight"- do you really think that they have the resources available to them to be able to utilize that amount of people? They have no where near enough money to arm and ship out those soldiers to desired locations."

Great point. I also think people are a little skewed on how rich both countries are confusing it with size of economy. Also, mobilized trained troops and military spending. The US outspends dozens of modern countries combined in spending and training

2 years ago | Side: Yes, doable
NOOBSLAYER78(2) Clarified
1 point

Hello sirius(366). I believe that it is not actually really smart for these to countries to go to war. I mean think of it for a second. We might have the technological support, they have the size of the people. THINK. These countries wouldn't go to war because if they did, both countries would lose an extreme amount of money, and even if they did the only way to settle the dispute would be between nuclear weapons. For example if America were to go to war with China, then China would stop the shipment of supplies to the United States. When that happens, then China would run out of money to support their military. When China cuts of supplies to America, then America's largest of buisnesses will suffer a great loss in money. You have to think of what you say. Most people think weapons win a war. But if you take a look, China needs money to fund their military and America needs money to fund their military. And also, when the buisnesses cannot afford to pay the workers, both countries got into a bankrupt situation. For example if America is in the Economy it is in right now, if we were to start a war, we would lose to the loss of money. I mean look what the war in Iraq and Afghanistan did to us. There wouldn't be just years of fighting. There would be at least a good 40 years of fighting beacause of the amount of people in China. They can double their population in a matter of 16 years. Think about it. And then when the two countries come to a time where they can't fight anymore, or because they've used up all their resources, then that is when they commense the nuclear war. Due to that, the world's resources will run dry because the US and China are huge countries. Remember weapons don't always help fight a war. Resources, Money, and Strategy win wars. Think about what I have said and please reply. I really don't think that these countries would want to go to war.

2 years ago | Side: Yes, doable
vepture(4) Disputed
1 point

Ok Bro... heres the deal:

"China's territory is too big" Chinese soldiers are based to fight in mountainous, plains and forest terrains which make them a big threat as they can serve all terrains while US. Soldiers are mainly desert terrain. They do not need to invade the USA but Leon Panetta said " The internet is the new warzone". They can still win.

"China can draft 350,000,000 people to fight" They definitely have the resources to support them. Why have no resources but a reserve contingent. Definitely worth thinking about.

"China can shoot down their sats which most US military depend on" First of all, get your facts right. The US does not have thousands of satellites in space. It is very easy to find them as each one sends out a type of signal which China can easily intercept. Once intercepted, all China needs to do is keep the signal blocked which is easy as we have seen the hacking skills China has. China does not have as many sats in space which makes it a lot more difficult to find them which apparently you did not think off as well.

"U.S jets would would not dare to fly deep into China airspace without getting shot down." Are you really sure that China does not have enough resources to detect stealth aircraft. First of all, China has stealth 5th generation aircraft as well and second of all, F-22 maybe stealth but the moment they open their bomb bays, the stealth is off and can still be detected. Besides, China's Surface-Air missiles are huge, as they have 21 types of them including some state-of-the-art ones.

"China is increasing their sub fleet to be the largest in the world." You have no proof that China is not increasing at a faster rate than the US. The US would not be able to handle China in their own territory and China's airforce, navy and army capabilities are increasing at a faster pace than everyone else in the world.

"They will defeat the U.S navy with subs fleet. China will not go head on with U.S in battles, they will do sneaky attacks to wear U.S down then defeat them in a dragnet." Doesn't mean more ships guarantee your win, with better tactics, one can still win with a few subs.

"China will unleash their cyber soldiers to weak havoc on U.S systems." I agree with ya

1 year ago | Side: No, almost impossible
cwindom(2) Disputed
1 point

for the record....The USA is larger than china...The USA is 3.79 million square miles and China is only 3.69 million square miles..........

1 year ago | Side: No, almost impossible
artloy12(1) Disputed
1 point

You fail to realize that due to modern technology in weapons, manpower does not have as big affect as it did in the past. China could never occupy the United States, because the US has the biggest and most technically advanced navy in the world. And, in terms of air force, the US has again, the most technically advanced air force in the world. China would get bombed into submission. With only 20% of China's population living in city's, it would be easy to wipe them out. The rest are substance farmers (Farmers the farm for only their own consumption). While the US produces the most food in the world. The US as well has arguable the most elite special operation units in the world. The Navy Seals have killed the most dangerous terrorist (Osama Ben Laden). They sniped the Somalian pirates, and saved a merchant ship captain. This proves their effectiveness, so the Chinese would actually be in danger because of special operations.

351 days ago | Side: No, almost impossible
maomao76(26) Disputed
0 points

ASBM's, ASAT's, cyber warriors, the IOU's, the U.S is finished. If China were to expanded their territory, they just need to arm their people with machine guns, ammo's , rpg's, They will start out with smaller country, SK, SE asia, the far east siberia, russia, the stan's, then the europeans.

4 years ago | Side: No, almost impossible
Tron76(1) Disputed
3 points

Maomao....you forget the U.S has a system in space called the Star Wars program which will shot down and destroy any attempts to take out their sats :) so...bad luck on that....As for the Population...the 1 billion plus Chinese would be totally wiped of the face of the earth by the bombing, from Air, Ships, Subs, Sea..the U.S wouldnt need to land in China until you were totally trashed. You forget 90% of China is in total poverty and the U.S is MORE than able to destroy the airforce and defences and bomb the crap out of beijing and other major cities which would cripple the whole country. :)

2 years ago | Side: yes, doable
Cinaman1998(37) Disputed
2 points

But if china take the money it wants back then the economic in america falls, thus forth your scary bombers, missiles, subs, soldiers cant do shit and would rebel against the us

2 years ago | Side: No, almost impossible
coaucioua(4) Disputed
1 point

star wars program during the reagan administration didn't work, and still doesn't work. Nuclear icbms have mirvs which are hard to hit and economically unfeasible

1 year ago | Side: No, almost impossible
Houston(186) Disputed
2 points

If conventional war with U.S, probably not. China's territory is too big.

All of China's major cities are on the coast, America need not invade for to get a surrender.

China will unleash their cyber soldiers to weak havoc on U.S systems.

America has even more knowledgeable cyber soldiers. Bill Gates is an American, good luck beating the Americans at the game they invented.

I see the rest of your posts have already been confronted by others, I need not address them,

4 years ago | Side: yes, doable
Saiesh(5) Disputed
2 points

I think India is Evolving very fast and their population too is almost as high as China. India has some satellites up which can almost see all Chinese military march from x place to x place and immediately send information back. Moreover US is somewhat cautious of CHINA's growth so you can estimate that India will have an ally. and not only the USA but the allies too( I am talking about Allies and Axis Powers).Maybe Axis powers are tired of losing and would love to get on with the winning side at least once. This can be a WORLD WAR 3 too which originated in Asia the first time!!!!

3 years ago | Side: yes, doable
willizyoyo(3) Disputed
1 point

You must be Indian because the username you have been using shown us clearly. Indians loved to boast, brag and swank their India military power is raising and almost comparable or marginally behind. But they have no idea their military weaponry, strategy and information were far behind to China. Needless to say, how naive or wishful thinking it was to put India in the same category to the US, Russia and China. These are the three most known powerful countries in the world today. Russia is superpower in the past. The US is the superpower in present. China is going to be superpower in the future. Whereas India is superpower wannabe (fond dream).

2 years ago | Side: It will never happen
Justgoaway1(1) Disputed
2 points

Our submarine fleet is more advanced then their fleet their subs are easy to spot with sonar and are used for defense of the coast our subs make a dip in the sound levels.Our stealth fighters and bombers would strike deep into China maybe even strike Beijing that would strike a major blow to China.

2 years ago | Side: No, almost impossible
rugby1(6) Disputed
1 point

Tell me how the Chinese plan to shoot down ALL of the US and European military satellites. Plus if China did do that we would just shoot their missile down and then shoot down China's military satellites. Also our subs are much, much more advanced than the military lets on and would utterly stomp the China fleet. Also every single one of our airplanes, subs, carriers, and tanks can easily function without satellites; saying it would be a major blow is ridiculous. Our jets would be able to fly into Chinese airspace and not get shot down, dude we still have better stealth aircraft then the Chinese have stealth detection. As for the cyber soldiers, America has just as good if not better cyber soldiers than the Chinese do along with better firewalls, training, and technology.

2 years ago | Side: Yes, doable
GreatDispute(1) Disputed
1 point

I have to agree with Sirius, the money it would take to afford the equiptment of the Chinese would be unbarable, trust me it is not easy making money it needs to be balanced. Another reason is China does not have any major Bases, Forts, Etc. around the Country for defence, the element of suprise is a major factor in war. We have major Air Fields and Naval bases in Japan for a reason, for any situations, the Chinese wouldn't be able to Counter-Attack in time. Another factor is the United Country's, a very big advantage because of the money that could be aided or Soldiers, Guns, and other Technology to back it up. Country's like, Great Britian, Germany, Poland, Austraila, France, Japan, Etc. that is why China wouldn't really have much of a chance. Also Chinese SATs won't be able to detect Northrop Grumman B-2 Stealth Bombers, Its capability to penetrate air defenses and threaten effective retaliation provides a strong, effective deterrent and combat force well into our century. It's a strong piece of technology, enough said.

2 years ago | Side: Yes, doable
Mgeezy Disputed
1 point

Yeah, but china does not have the ability to cloth, feed, arm, house, train, move , ect, ect, ect, all of those 350,000,000 people that you talk about. Also what makes you think that china has the capability to track down all of the U.S.'s stealth bombers and drones. Once we invade it would be hand to hand combat, or a 6'1 225 pound insanely trained and armed Marine; against a 5'5 150lb chinese soldier with no ammo, food, and little training. Sure there may be your oddball, 6' chinese, but either way our Basic Training is probably much better than that of the Average chinese soldier. Along with the best guns, it would just become a huge massacre like in north Korea a couple of decades back.

1 year ago | Side: Yes, doable
1 point

I agree, america lost in korea, vietnam, afghanistan, iraq and libya. It wouldn't be able to handle the military and political consequences of a war.

1 year ago | Side: No, almost impossible
Davisonian(4) Disputed
1 point

True China has large land mass, 40% uninhabitable but still large. True also they have a very large population but your figure of drafting 350,000,000 is way off, you must not include: elderly, disabled, sick, children, most women. This greatly reduces your number. The US has over the last two decades focused on 5/1 principle, that is our technology of war machines of all kinds can equate to 1 Stealth Bomber equal damage 100k troops could employ, Air superiority would be won by the US within one month. Once we controlled the sky we bomb the population down by half within 4 months, and if we wanted to we could just continue this until China gave up or lost all of it's population. No need for ground fighting in this type of war; as we would not want the territory Just the end of the governing body. China has been hyped over the last decade and is no where near the hype that is bestowed upon them. We could crush their Naval forces within 6 months, and the Air forces within 1-2 months, with Air and Sea superiority they are left with just being bombing targets unable to stop the non-relenting bombing of US forces from the air and sea. All of China's war machines are supped up Soviet era equipment, they do have a few newly Made in China war machines but 1 generation compared to the US 7 generation...It no match. And as far as flying deep into China Territory truth be know we do it now what makes you think we could not then? Stealth my friend and nobody is even close to our technical advantage in that arena.

275 days ago | Side: Yes, doable
Ligaspaka(29) Disputed
1 point

China is advancing in missile technology coping up with USA. However missile technology is going obsolete in years to come. USA is fast progressing on laser technology. in five years time it would be available for military use.. Littoral combat ships that are stealth. Three are operational and a dozen to be constructed. Gerald Ford class AIRCRAFT CARRIERS. There would be 10 by 2050 costing 12billion each... One more thing in conventional war. 9 out of 10 Americans owns one or more guns. Basically the American population is a well trained, well fed,well disciplined STANDING ARMY.

188 days ago | Side: Yes, doable
Ligaspaka(29) Disputed
1 point

China is advancing in missile technology coping up with USA. However missile technology is going obsolete in years to come. USA is fast progressing on laser technology. in five years time it would be available for military use.. Littoral combat ships that are stealth. Three are operational and a dozen to be constructed. Gerald Ford class AIRCRAFT CARRIERS. There would be 10 by 2050 costing 12billion each... One more thing in conventional war. 9 out of 10 Americans owns one or more guns. Basically the American population is a well trained, well fed,well disciplined STANDING ARMY.

188 days ago | Side: Yes, doable
Ligaspaka(29) Disputed
1 point

China is advancing in missile technology coping up with USA. However missile technology is going obsolete in years to come. USA is fast progressing on laser technology. in five years time it would be available for military use.. Littoral combat ships that are stealth. Three are operational and a dozen to be constructed. Gerald Ford class AIRCRAFT CARRIERS. There would be 10 by 2050 costing 12billion each... One more thing in conventional war. 9 out of 10 Americans owns one or more guns. Basically the American population is a well trained, well fed,well disciplined STANDING ARMY.

188 days ago | Side: Yes, doable
Houston(186) Disputed
0 points

maomao... First off, US has the biggest navy (in tonnage) in the world. Even bigger than the 17 countries behind it, including China, Russia, UK, etc. Second, China uses Russina MiG29s, those will not last long in a fight with the stealth F22s. The F22s can lock a missile from 3 miles away, than fly away knowing that the MiG will be shot down. The MiG29s however, cannot lock missiles onto our F22s, hence term: stealth. Lastly, your name, Mao Zedong's "Great Leap Forward" killed 3 times as many people as Hitler killed in the Holocaust.

4 years ago | Side: yes, doable
maomao76(26) Disputed
1 point

Houston...Firs off, China's ASBM's will make the U.S navy sitting ducks. The ASBM's is base on ASAT weapons, if they can shoot down SAT's, it can sink the U.S navy. The aircraft carriers and most U.S surface ships are useless against ASBM's. In a sea battle the carrier will first be taken out by ASBM's , then U.S navy will have no protection from air. The China sub fleet will finished the U.S navy by picking them out from under. China have lots of old jets which will likely be outfitted with drone technology and used in the front lines as a kamakazi type assault, then the newer J-11's and fighters will follow behind to finished the job. The death during the GLF was a combination of failed industrial policy and mother nature ie. drought, floods, plague, famine. So it's not correct to say Mao kill all those people intentionally, he had good intentions to bring people into the modern world but his miscalculation cause the unfortunate deaths. Stalin and Hitler were different, they just kill people in cold blood because of race.

4 years ago | Side: No, almost impossible
3 points

Russia vs China? If no nukes used..maybe might win more battles than China but would lose a lot of land to China, particularly the Far East. Russia doesn't have enough people to hold down their territory. Their equipment is just as old as China's. I'll come down to if the Russians can hold on to their territory on advancing PLA troops. Russian population is only 125 million vs China's 1.3 billion.

South Korea vs China? No Chance

Japan vs China? No Chance anymore! They have no resource and will eventually surrender.

Vietnam vs China? No Chance.

5 years ago | Side: No, almost impossible
Horso(2) Disputed
1 point

Your statement, Japan vs China, South Korea vs China, No Chance; is fatally flawed.

Both Japan and South Korea are allies of the west and in attacking either China is taking on the world. A war you couldn't win.

Others have tried, namely Hitler and Napoleon. History shows the result.

As far as Russia and Vietnam go, Russia is not the enemy of old and would probably receive support from the west. Vietnam at this point in time is coming under the mantle of western protection.

Finally the PLA may be the biggest army in the world but they are not battle hardened. The army's of the west have been doing the real thing for over a decade. The PLA's only claim to fame is the taking over of Tibet and the Tienanmen Square massacre. In the 80's you fought a war with Vietnam and were soundly beaten.

I say to you "Remember Thermopylae".

1 year ago | Side: No, almost impossible
3 points

I wish it was true but China is a force not to be messed with. Too much power and they have all the tools. Their shear size of their army stifles any country.

4 years ago | Side: No, almost impossible
TERMINATOR(6718) Disputed
2 points

Just bomb the hell out of them before they know what's hit 'em.

4 years ago | Side: yes, doable
GaiusJulius(5) Disputed
1 point

Military might and numbers does not win wars. The Nazis wreaked havoc when they first implemented their Blitzkrieg strategy. Then their supply lines were stretched far beyond their capacity and they got stonewalled at Stalingrad. Which ultimately led to retreat and defeat.

3 years ago | Side: yes, doable
KaiserDenEU(10) Disputed
1 point

Too bad they wouldnt dare nor could they even afford to supply a 50 million man army a scale such as that would destroy china

2 years ago | Side: Yes, doable
3 points

If China was to leave the world tomorrow.

We would all be skrewed.

They don't make weapons, but their interests in buying warships, subs, and warfare technology makes a point: Its not going to invent anything drastic to fight back, its going to BUY them.

Saying "can any country defeat China" implies a 1 on 1 battle.

I say no.

Yes, US has a major task force and army that are more advanced, but it won't wage war against China because of their massive economic dependence on China.

In that retrospect, China does not need to invade US, it merely has to call in the debt and collect it's paycheck of (oh how much was it?) 772 BILLION from the US and put them into a depression immediately.

US is WAY too economically fragile at the moment to deal any major wars against such drainers as China.

If they invaded, they wouldn't last more than a year in battle before needing to retreat. Not out of bullets, out of money.

4 years ago | Side: No, almost impossible
raken19(14) Disputed
2 points

I agree on some but not much. First off, the U.S does not rely on china as much as you imply. Second, if we went to war against china we would not have to give them there money back. That 772 BILLION dollars would be ours and china would not get it back. Third off, if anything, the US has set a world record by being the number one weapon buyer in the world and its china who is so economically challenged. Last but not least, china and the USA would never go to war because that would result in Mutually Assured Destruction. Wars between first world countries don't exist anymore because of M.A.D.

4 years ago | Side: It will never happen
generalb(1) Disputed
1 point

China isnt a first world country. It's a second world country by definition. NATO/West is 1st world, Soviet Pact/Commie is 2nd. Leftovers are 3rd.

3 years ago | Side: No, almost impossible
willizyoyo(3) Disputed
1 point

Yeah, right, dude. Go invade any nations that you owed them money, so you naively thought you do not have to pay them back, IF (only under the circumstance) you win. Come on, dude, grow up. Do not talk like a moron or kid when facing in reality. China can hit you really hard before you declare war with them. The US is not that powerful as you think (not invincible or Alienate country with fancy weapons) or even the Hollywood movies the Americans filmed. To wage a war, it is not like playing video games. You lose, you click start again, pretend nothing happen and still enjoy playing until you claim your victory. You just do not get the picture that you thought China is so easy to be defeated? It is madness to have such crazy far-fetched excuse that Iraq gained medals less in Olympic games under Saddam Hussein ruled, after the US has invaded Iraq, Iraq gained more medals than before.

2 years ago | Side: No, almost impossible
KIJO(12) Disputed
1 point

But what would ultimately happen if China asked for their money back? Nothing... The U.S. can't pay that money back and the money will grow year by year... it has already grown to 1.3 trillion U.S. dollars. that is about what the us earns as a country after a whole year...

2 years ago | Side: Yes, doable
3 points

People don't seem to realize that it is not weapon's that win a war, but people. America has nukes? Russia has nukes? So does China. Missiles? China's got them. Technology doesn't matter because people create it. Sure America, Japan and some european countries have much more technology but most of the "Superpower" weapons came in a time of war when they were needed.China has grown in a to a country capable of the ingenuity required to produce this weapons should a war arise and they have a much higher amount of people to do so than any other country. Now it is possible that should a war arise alliances like NATO would manage but it is very doubtul that any single country could beat one with such a great labour for force; such a great human factor.

3 years ago | Side: No, almost impossible
GaiusJulius(5) Disputed
2 points

"Now it is possible that should a war arise alliances like NATO would manage but it is very doubtul that any single country could beat one with such a great labor for force; such a great human factor."

That is just the thing. If China goes to war with anyone it won't be a single nation. There hasn't been a one-on-one confrontation in centuries.

That great labor force wouldn't do much good in a long term war. If you bomb factories, fuel depot's, ports, railways, etc. you can take bites out of their economy and military production.

Another factor people forget is experience. China hasn't fought anyone in years. In fact I guarantee they don't have enough weapons & supplies to support all those millions of able-bodied men. Countries like America, Great Britain, Canada etc. all have battle-hardened troops with numerous tours of duty under their belt.

3 years ago | Side: yes, doable

No it would take a alliance of countries to beat them.

If China sent out a draft they could have 300,000,000 troops.

If America sent out a draft we could have 50,000,000 troops.

1/6 of China's army.

America would put up a big fight but we would eventually get overwelmed.

India could take China by themselfs. If India went into total war they could have 200,000,000 troops. 2/3 of Chinas army.

But the Chinese have better warfare & most of the Indians are Hindu pacifists.

5 years ago | Side: No, almost impossible
brettsinc(5) Disputed
2 points

1) Troop numbers don't count for much when you can't properly arm them

2) How can the US get overwhelmed when it has complete air and navel superiority? The entire war would be fought in China

3) Comes down to production, purchasing power and technology 3/3 for the US (furthermore the US has a stronger army,navy and air force then China, do some research anywhere as I don't feel like making this 1000 words)

4) India could not take China as numbers aren't all that count, China is technologically superior to India and therefore would win a 1v1 war

5) People who could beat China in a war: USA, EU and Russia

3 years ago | Side: yes, doable
2 points

1) China has nukes and plenty of them. Would any country want to risk their citizens being nuked even if they can score a big victory by nuking Shanghai and Beijing on Day 1? The pacifists will also wail.

2)You would never in reality be able to build such a broad coalition including US Russia India+Pakistan NATO+Israel, Japan+North Korea, Mongolia, with Uyghurs and Tibetans taking an armed uprising.

3) You cannot actually conquer the country the way the US did in Iraq. China is just too freaking big with an even bigger population. Again if China loses it vast non-Han territories such as Tibet and Uyghur territories, then you may stand a chance to corner them. you then can split up the country just as Germany was divided into english, french, american and russian zones immediately after WWII. Except you would probably need way more than four divisions.

5 years ago | Side: No, almost impossible
NeverUTOG(49) Disputed
1 point

1) Yes; 2) agreed; 3) And just how long did it take the U.S. AND her allies to conquer Iraq--a country of few numbers by comparison and at what ridiculous cost?

While I would never want to be under the thumb of China, being under the thumb of the U.S. ain't all that attractive any more either. Unfortunately, the U.S. and her allies are completely out of touch with reality and without a doubt have lost any edge they had. Moreover, any country who could be successfully attacked by a wee bunch of box cutter wielding Middle Eastern "gentlemen" bypassing every possible fail safe system the U.S. put together at a cost in the trillions does not exactly breed confidence. The problem with the U.S. and its people, alas, is the belief that it is better than anyone else--so convinced of it are they that the end up underestimating the enemy. Ooooooh, big mistake. They give short shrift to any of the Orientals at their own peril.

2 years ago | Side: It will never happen
2 points

it is impossible because it has the biggest army

it is very secret country dosent reveal its special weapons

it has its own technology

america can give large blow to it

but china cannot take it simply it'll reply double of it

it has never been ruled by others

it is independent from start

it is in their gene to produce brave soldiers

4 years ago | Side: No, almost impossible
1 point

china is a very secret country where as U.S.A scream out every weapon they've got

4 years ago | Side: No, almost impossible
sirius(366) Disputed
3 points

You obviously seem to know a lot about Area 51....................

4 years ago | Side: yes, doable
phild(3) Disputed
2 points

Your very wrong, China parades it's military power. The U.S. has not and will not ever feel the need to parade it's military might. Unless you count the Great White Fleet in the early 1900's by Theodore Roosevelt. The only occasional military boast the U.S. does is fly Fighter Jets or Helicopters over American Sporting events. The U.S. has the world's largest supply of Helicopters, Naval Ships, Fighter Jets, 2nd in Tanks, Satellite Array's, Nuclear Warheads and it has the largest alliance. China would not stand a chance. Not only that if it wasn't for the U.S. involvement in WWII, China would be speaking Japanese right now. You also forget the U.S. has drone aircrafts, drone vehicles, drone weapons, and eventually drone soldiers. The U.S. is far more extensively technilogically advanced then China. Ofcourse China has 2 million active soldiers, where as America as 1 million, China can draft another 2 Million as America can draft another million. But, there would be no need for footsoldier assualt. It would all be based on technology, and America would definately win that war.

2 years ago | Side: Yes, doable
Nercos(6) Disputed
1 point

and which bogus conspiracy theory/straight up lie Internet site did you get that from?

2 years ago | Side: yes, doable
americangut(1) Disputed
1 point

LOL is all that need be said. everything you "think" u know couldnt be more wrong. we only let out things weve researched 20 years ago,,the most recent things popping up are sattelite microvave beams that would stop a missle before it gets 100 ft off the ground,,that would fry chinese ships and planes instantly. thats just 1 thing and that research was done 10 years ago,,were only now asking for approval of its full scale use which well use either way,, you have no idea what weve got now ;),,,,,now on the other hand china secret?? the only secrets they have is that their food is really their 3rd born children and pets..they have miniscule technology still using wwII weaponry.

1 year ago | Side: Yes, doable
1 point

China has planned for war with the USA for the last 20 years. They have mini nukes in every china town in the USA. One mini nuke in every major city. On command they will all be detonated in predetermined locations, eliminating 2/3 of US infrastructure in minutes. USA will surrender after the first 70 million American deaths.

2 years ago | Side: No, almost impossible
1 point

I'm a brit, so i feel that my view on the usa vs china is probably more fair than most other contributors. firstly, i think that in conventional warfare, china would probably dominate the usa, on the grounds that their population is over a billion people, and they estimate that they have already 700+000000 soldiers fit for service, with millions of reserves. contrary to american beliefs, i dont think the PLA is paticularly untrained or ill equipped-there are an estimated 120,000,000 AK-47's alone in the world, and many more can be made (china has an ak47 variant called the type 56), as well as the fact that china makes its own weapon systems (eg qbz-95). Of course this is all dependant on what the strategy for war is-who makes the first move, invasion, annihalation etc. I dont think any LONE country could invade china, but defence against an invading china may be easier-home turf, ambushes, traps etc. on neutral ground, i would be leaning toward the sheer bulk of china against all nations (usa has 600 million less personnel, japan has 660 million less, russia 610 million less).

4 years ago | Side: No, almost impossible
devans(5) Disputed
2 points

I would agree with the fact that your average Chinese infantrymen is better at asymmetrical warfare(ambush,sneak attacks) things like that,plus they are probably better at long range raids then their American counter parts. But U.S. infantry is styled as shock troops, heavy infantry whatever you would like to call them. And historically when heavy/shock infantry meets light,skirmisher infantry the sheer weight of the shock units win out. Now granted China does out number U.S. but if you break the fight down to fire-team on fire-team 2-5 man groups a single U.S. fire-team has more weight of shot then does a Chinese fire-team. Think HMS Victory vs a couple of small brigs or sloops maybe even a frigate. This is due to communications, targeting systems, and still knowing how to read a map(I know crazy, but yes U.S. Infantry can read) Not to mention a crew serve weapon of the U.S on average out shoots the Chinese equivalent (240-B vs RPK family of machine guns) Then you have to get into tanks and other weapon systems. And this is where America will make the most gains. We all know at the out set of WW2 the biggest thing that set the German panzers apart so well was the radio and a die-hard will to push forward(mobility) well the U.S. would be able to hit the Chinese army in so many places an mostly at will with over-whelming fire superiority and that is the reason I believe America would win on the ground in a Battle. A war depending on regional or strategic would have to be fought in the Indian ocean due to the fact that machines need oil and no modern army can fight with out it. So there would be a drawn-out naval chess game there (why do you think America supports Taiwan) so we have a supply-base gas station for air-power and an open door into China's Jugular(oil from Mid-East/Africa) same thing would happen to China as did Japan and i don't think China would put up as good a fight as Japan did in WW2 either simply because they do not have the reserves of ships or the navy in place to deal with a long war. China has some(by some I mean very small, have to look very hard to find) hints as to their plan to dislodge American Naval power and to prevent them from closing the Oil shipping lanes from the Mid-East and Africa its called the Pearl-Defense Network. And if they get it up NEW GAME China holds the cards. But until then I do believe America would win do to the ability to choke China of oil. Another good point about the numbers thing 1991 Gulf war, Falklands of British vs Argentina. Another reason is Farming yes I know what the hell does farming have to do with war? Well its simple the majority of China's farm-able land is near the seas and the farms are stressed to near breaking points to keep up with feeding the population. Its a bad enough situation that China must import soy to feed pigs and grain to feed chickens which have become corner stones of the Chinese diets. Now where do they get those from I've read/heard a few different number but on average they say 60-70% of the imports of soy and grain come form America, and the figure of how much they import is about 40% of what they use yearly. So after looking into it a Regional war or skirmish if you will I think they would win. But a prolonged lengthy war we would win. If the war starts in the next decade or so. After that who knows But most likely someone would launch a nuke and that would be game point good-bye have a nice day.

3 years ago | Side: yes, doable
1 point

I'm a brit too, and i agree with everything said above

GO Britain

4 years ago | Side: No, almost impossible
sirius(366) Disputed
1 point

"i think that in conventional warfare, china would probably dominate the usa, on the grounds that their population is over a billion people"- do you really think that they have the money, the time, or even the power to utilize that many people? They really don't.

"i dont think the PLA is paticularly untrained"- the Chinese army is known to be very badly trained.

"defence against an invading china may be easier-home turf"- it would be impossible for China to invade the United States.

4 years ago | Side: yes, doable
1 point

Yes completely agree with you!!:) As u told they don't have the time and many volunteers to draft them like there's no tomorrow!!

That is almost impossible because they have chosen republic as their government of all things!!!:)

3 years ago | Side: yes, doable
1 point

i think people are forgetting the fact that most immigrants come from Asia into the U.S. If U.S.A did go to war with China they would probably find mass murder in their own country before anything else could happen.

4 years ago | Side: No, almost impossible
1 point

its amazing how in the debate title it says "Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them? " and everyone just atomatically switched it to "Can the U.S defeat China if they went to war against them? ".

4 years ago | Side: No, almost impossible
1 point

a little prediction on what will happen if U.S.A and China go to war with each other.(I AM NOT SAYING THIS WILL HAPPEN)

U.S.A's options

1. nuke china- if they do that all the stuff they buy will have to come from somewhere else like India, Russia or Japan. BUT India will be panicing due to nuclear radiation. i doubt Russia will help because of the Cold war and i think Japan is still annoyed about the end of WWII

2. invade China- this brings up lots of problems like where are the troops going to land and in a country as crowded as china I doubt they're going to get around without being seen.

3. call on Europe-most of Europes in debt at the moment and most countries there are angry at U.S for ripping them off during the war.

4.invade China by sea-this is the most successful one so far but someone is bound to spot a giant fleet of warships across the pacific ocean and anyone in Asia would take offence. Soon the U.S finds the whole of the the East arming themselves and preparing to attack.And with most manufactured goods come from Asia the U.S.A find themselves with nothing.

4 years ago | Side: No, almost impossible
1 point

first no country would just nuke a chinese city it causes to much public criticism if you were to nuke lets say beijing thats more the n15 million civilians dead so they wouldnt nuke a city just stratigic military positions..........

a fact is in about 10 more years china will have enough trade with outher countries to suppport itself without the U.S. ....while the current things imported from china in the U.S is about 70 percent......meaning even if U.S. tries to trade with other countries it will not matter if china stops sales the U.S. economy will do dwn wayyy down.....

no country in the world can occupy china its just to much land and ppl the U.S. might be able to hold it for a year or 2 tops the chinese r stubborn ppl they will resort to guriella warfare

china is spending way more then it ways it is on the military roughtly about a few billion more plus with technology sent dwn to us from our friendly neighbors the russians our technology is almost there to the U.S. just not as much of it lol

china has invented a new land based missile nickname the aircraft carrier sinker the missle was tested and is operational........the U.S. currently has no way of stopping the missile

you dumb americans think that all these countries will team up with you while in truth not many countries will........india and china have become very gudpartners and everyone knows the sino russian alliance and trade has been great for the last 20 years......did i mention the russians dont like the U.S.....so in the end the only countries teaming up with the U.s. would be the U.K. canada and maybe one other country while russia is sure to back china wanting a stab at the U.S. the middle east would also be on our side as well as korea.....india remains undecided if india does decide to attack the chinese can handle them with a ground force of over 300 mil and india being rite nxt to china would mean transportation is not much of a issue...the middle eastern countries would also attack india if it came dwn to it...........and if you wanna talk about a nuke battle im pretty sure russia has thousands of nukes more then the U.S.

.........................The event of a third world war is unlikely the world is not stupid countries know that nuclear war would end in death to all no one wins................the most likely start of a ww3 is not china but the middle east

4 years ago | Side: No, almost impossible
sirius(366) Disputed
3 points

"a fact is in about 10 more years china will have enough trade with outher countries to suppport itself without the U.S."- nope. The United States has the largest economy in the world. Even with immense growth over the next ten years the Chinese would still need to trade with the US to be productive.

"china is spending way more then it ways it is on the military roughtly about a few billion more"- the United States currently spends almost 7 times what the Chinese spend on their military.

"our technology is almost there to the U.S."- its not even close.

"china has invented a new land based missile nickname the aircraft carrier sinker"- what about the American submarines that will blockade China? One thing is for sure: it will be easy to destroy China's only aircraft carrier.

"you dumb americans think that all these countries will team up with you while in truth not many countries will"- actually, more countries will probably side with the United States than China. You see, there is this little thing called NATO, where if one member country is attacked all 27 other countries in the organization declare war on the attacking nation. The United States is a member. And you call Americans dumb?

"india and china have become very gudpartners"- India hates China. US relations to India was said to have slightly worsened when President Obama stated that he would like to increase relations to China.

"everyone knows the sino russian alliance and trade has been great for the last 20 years"- Russia really has no choice but to stay neutral or be on the side of the United States. It would lose almost every trade partner if it decides to side with China. Since NATO members are its main trade partners it really has no choice but to not side with China.

"the middle east would also be on our side"- Turkey is a NATO member, the United States is the main trading partner of Saudi Arabia, Israel is a very good ally of the United States, and Iran would definitely be on your side but the other countries could easily counter its attacks.

"as well as korea"- South Korea is much stronger than North Korea and it is also an extremely good ally of the United States.

"if you wanna talk about a nuke battle im pretty sure russia has thousands of nukes more then the U.S."- each country has enough nukes to destroy the world a few times over.

4 years ago | Side: yes, doable
2 points

well put!!!! and the DF-21 is nothing more then a larger copy of the French Exo-set missile. The U.K. found this neat little toy called a 6-barrel gatling gun of 25-mm that puts out about 4k rounds a min and eats missile that cruise at mach-3 in about a 2 second burst. Plus you always have the b-2 that would be days in advance of any fleet looking for the platforms to launch said missile thats why china is trying to make it fired by a submarine but first they have to make the sub. so its still at the least a decade off. and the only other countries that could hope to invade are India,Russia, and Japan yes Japan!!! They are the third largest economy now and the 1945 armastice was repealed a few years back allowing Japan to rebuild their military. so i think asia is going to become quite the flash-point and powder keg in the coming decades

3 years ago | Side: yes, doable
GaiusJulius(5) Disputed
2 points

You have the nerve to insult Americans over an internet board. Such a cowardly little man you are.

3 years ago | Side: yes, doable
1 point

child please, Can U.S.A defeat china in a war? does fat people like cake? Hell yeah, No questions, I sit back an read all these comments, And i think to myself, what are most of these people thinking, some are talking about cyber attacks on the amercia, Are you for real, Two words {Bill Gates}equal USA, come on who do you think started cyber attacks? so no stop an dont with that, Get a clue, Then i read that china has rockets that will destroy american carrier ships an all of that B.S, Let me tell you this You dont think America has stuff for that,america aint worried about that small ish, Them rocket wont do the damage u think they will do,and them chinese military generals knows that too,and so do america,and them sub!that american got !oh lord china dont want no problems do you know what type of weapons they got on them,child please with that foolishness, as far as the billions or millions of soldiers china has, its not how many you shot its who you shot, you guys should know that, Also china has no real air force, They can compare..to america{real talk} thats like Muhammad Ali fighting Pee wee Hurman, It wouldnt be Fair fight, how can you beat somthing you cant detect, i Tell you what! Close your eyes get five friends and you stand ten feet away from them so you dont know were they at an let them throw rocks at you from all different angles, they would tear you up with them rocks to were you would bleed, yell out from pain, cry then most likely give up and say you stop, you quit, Thats what it would mostly be with america air force over china! I mean what other country that have planes flying themselfs with no humans in them, I mean just look at the military channel, and keep in mind this what america is showing you, Do you have sense enough to think about what there not showing you? usa is ages beyond china with there military and missiles,come on ya'll know better then that, ya'll know who the top dog is when its comes to that stuff, America, If you dont think so then u you outta touch with reality, As far as the Debt usa owes china, what are they going to do make usa pay, no, hell no, an no again, last i checked the dollar is more then the yuan. so stop with that debt ish, I read two comments from the two brit that was funny to me, they said that china would beat the usa, How? dont you know America tells the brit what to do, Since wwI ,so who do you think will be right there fighting china too,If usa was to get in a war with china, the brit? Because ya'll do what america says, and to say im wrong u would be lying to yourself, ask the queen an the prime minster.. playa they will tell you what it iz,lol, Now back to china, we have our military all over ther world so we can attack china from all angles, and we have the resources to do it, and the muscle, usa technology is just too much for the china, Just keeping it real, It a war did happen it would be 3 to four years American Victory, and america would make them surrender on china land meaning america would defeat them in china, Notice i didnt say anything about china naval military, cuz china naval military is horrible, they would never be about to invade america they dont even have the means nor the muscle to. AGAIN CHILD PLEASE, CHINA AINT MESSING WITH THE U.S.A, SO THEY BETTER LAY DOWN OR GET DOWN...NUFF SAID

3 years ago | Side: No, almost impossible
1 point

At this moment in time, I don't see how it is possible for anyone to defeat and invade china. Besides the fact that they have the biggest population, Chinese are very patriotic people, their military spending is increasing without worrying about having debts, both military and non-military technology is increasing rapidly due to stealing of foreign technology.

China's relations with Russia also improved greatly and they see one another as allies against a common enemy: USA. Prior to the 90's, there were over 1,000,000 troops on both sides of the border between Russia (Soviet Union) and China. However, today Russia and China have military maneuvers together. Just last week, a pipeline was built that brings oil from Russia to China with two more pipelines planned in the near future. Furthermore, they share military technology and thus decreasing military spending which in return could be used on expanding the economy of both countries.

Although the quality of military technology does matter, it definitely is no guarantee that you could win a war. There is no better example of that than Vietnam, Afghanistan (Both US and Russia), Iraq.............

One way that for example that countries such as China or India could win a war would be to have 30-40 million of their fellow countrymen to simply surrender to the US/Russia/UK or anyone with a mighty military and simply say "I surrender!" What are you going to do? Kill 40 million? No. Feed 40 million? No...what options are left?..........

For those who think that China could not survive without the trade with the US forgets to realize that there is the other 99% of the countries with which China can trade. They are already doing that by increasing trade in Africa, Europe, Central & South America. For example: US company offers a product for $100, but China offers the same product for $50...it might not be same quality, but penny saved is a penny earned.

China should not be underestimated. For me personally, I realized that something is just not right when the biggest capitalist country (USA) started to owe money (around $2 trillion currently) to the biggest communist country (China).

The only solution that I see this to be resolved is to bring back jobs to US citizens, stop being a world police, decrease military spending by a large percentage and use that money for economic purposes...oh, and make lobbying illegal so that some big corporations cannot decide our foreign policy......

3 years ago | Side: No, almost impossible
1 point

Guys have you gone nuts?! It is impossible for a country to invade another country. This is because the U.N.O. would never permit that. If a country invades another country, then the they will have to leave the country the very next day and if they don't want to leave then all countries who are U.N.O. members can wage war upon them. Well I am an Indian and I tell you that Chinese army is extremely weak. It is even backed off by India. In the Indo-Chinese war , even when India was just developing , the Chinese lost but they would never want to express that to the world so they signed a peace treaty with India , the fucking Chinese !!And people should also realize that the U.S. army is the weakest army. While most countries appoint military men who are strong and courageous, the U.S. army only depends on technological advances and if an Indian soldier were to fight an U.S. soldier one-on-one, the victory would surely be the U.S. soldiers' because of his weapon, but if they were to fight with nothing at hand the Indian would easily knock down the U.S. guy in one blow.

3 years ago | Side: It will never happen
lambo(3) Disputed
3 points

You're stupid. I honestly am almost speechless at how stupid you are. You're just proving how arrogant Indians can be. Did you forget the 2008 South Ossetia War? Georgia was invaded. All parties are guilty of human rights violations. Google it or something. Your condescending cordiality of two of the biggest countries in the world means you need to read a book. AND this debate isn't even about India. Holy Hindu.

3 years ago | Side: yes, doable
poolkool(2) Disputed
1 point

hloy cow>>>>>>>>>u indians are nuts......u think chinese army is weak???haha..when did china signed peace treaty with india when????in war of 1962 who do u think lost????india suffered big humiliation in that war....and the whole kashmir that indian maps shows in reality doesn't belong to india at all....there is line of control(loc)with pakistan and china.....Aksai chin thats abt the size of switzerland now is controlled by china.....in 1962 if china had wanted then they could have reached new delhi....u ffucking moron......haha just watch out for china's development how its economic growth is growing.......in another 10-20 yrs china will surely be a super power....

2 years ago | Side: NO WAR
1 point

The cockroaches, most likely to survive and inherit the destroyed Earth.China is to big now for it to be a conflict it would be WW3.

3 years ago | Side: No, almost impossible
1 point

It is a great mistake in the past when American government who regarded with China only focused on Soviet Unions with the Cold War, and no mention with China. Do you remember in the ending of 20th century, China only used bicycles on the whole country because they are afraid of earth warm with CO, but that time, they concentrated all the money for the fishy purposes in the future, but most of the countries on the world did not think about this. Now, they accumulated a lot of money and they have become the second rich country just behind the U.S, but America is in debt with China. They fought the U.S about the economy in order that the U.S gets weaker about this, and the U.S. only focuses its budgets in the country without mentioning many things on the world. Therefore, China is easy to do everything they want like recent crisis on the South China Sea.

On the 21th century, China also uses ancient policies by occupying the territory of the smaller countries so that they immigrate their Chinese People to. For Example, Burma, Vietnam, Ukraine. As their proverb: " any place there is the grass, over there, it has Chinese people."

If China wants to attack the southeastern countries to occupy some or all the islands on the Partly relate to Philippines and Vietnam, because the amount of oil and natural gas there is so much. Moreover, they can enlarge their navy not only in Pacific but also Atlantic to replace the power of the U.S navy or at least, they also want to divide the influence with the U.S. Sooner or later, the third world war also will happen to China, because they make a great deal of complication on the South China Sea, and the largest threat with the world.

Anybody also recognizes that weapons of American military is number one, no country can compare with the weapons of the U.S.

If the war happens between the U.S. and China, I believe that U.S will win because the U.S has NATO and the southeastern countries, even India also dislikes China with some the border wars in the past. To make a peaceful life for the human-being and to avoid the bad results later on, how to separate China into many smaller countries as well as the Soviet Unions did.......

3 years ago | Side: No, almost impossible
1 point

If the US went to war with China, neither side would win, though China would probably come out ahead. Each country has so many allies, and such powerful weapons, as well as having a large population...China and the US are both gargantuan nations. I think that if they went to war, it would probably be WWIII. And everything is so globalized, as opposed to WWI or WWII, that every country would probably be involved, each one wanting to be on the winning side. ... We'd wipe each other out.

2 years ago | Side: No, almost impossible
1 point

That funning . Once china in war . what about the other ? As usual ? So funning . Anyone need the third world war ? So come on .Tell me what you can get from the war with china . And what you will lose .

2 years ago | Side: No, almost impossible
1 point

My view:

It's almost impossible. I've read the recent data that by 2020, China will overpower the US military. I forgot where I read it, but this one may help you guys:

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110509205053AAlQnto

2 years ago | Side: No, almost impossible
1 point

I think stealth planes can not destroy china, because it was defeated in Yugoslavia even by the simplest Russian rocket.

2 years ago | Side: No, almost impossible
1 point

Take into the fact that Vietnam war was against people with some guns and they held their own. Imagine against the Chinese....there are MORE Chinese to mess with....no effing way can anyone win against them. That's why no one attacks them... They'd be stupid and asking for suicide.

2 years ago | Side: No, almost impossible
1 point

What many of you fail to realize is that much of our weapons and equipment are made by China. Not only that, but China itself is still technically a communist country, so if they wanted to, they could create a draft and force as many people into the military as they want. They also are bound by NO Patton laws, so not only have they copied much of our technology but they get away with it. Just a few months ago they produced a new jet that was awfully similar to one we put out a few months prior(that's because it was exactly like the one we made, but instead of English the labels were in Chinese). I hate to say it, but not only would not stand a chance, but we would get obliterated.

2 years ago | Side: No, almost impossible
1 point

I'd like to say a normal no, but the concept of a "war" has changed drastically in recent years. This debate would have been better if their was a goal to the war like take over japan or exterminate the other side or militarily dominate the other country.

Realistically if there was all out war it would just be nukes so there wouldn't really be much of China (nor other countries) left.

If it was a conventional war assuming nuclear weapons didn't exist, I'd assume that Americans goal would be to conquer and turn China into a democratic country similar to what it did (or at least tried to) in Vietnam, Iraq and others.

In that scenario the USA would probably fail, with the huge population of China as well as a pretty solid nationalist population, which would resist foreign takeovers. USA could probably easily destroy most of China's navy and airforce with much ease. The hardest one would be the army, the large army even if badly trained wouldn't be easy for any army in the world to defeat without sustaining heavy losses.

2 years ago | Side: No, almost impossible
1 point

I am a fellow american but i just don't think we can defeat china at all. if you had done some history on the korean war the north koreans got a cease fire because of chinas use of geurualla tactics. The americans were drilling bombs every minute on chinese fortifications. this already shows how wimpy we are. and the soviet union just supplied weapons to the chinese not men or training. Nowadays american soldiers are just cowards, im not saying i could do any better, but all the countries america has invaded over the past decade, have been weak countries who can't defend themselves and the americans claim they are fighting the taliban. True we are leading the chinese in military advancement, but it's to unrealistic that we will invade them, it would cost to much and to many lives would be lost to bare. But this may be hard to swallow but i think china will be ahead of america in military advancement in 30 years.

2 years ago | Side: No, almost impossible
fbstephenson(1) Disputed
1 point

Listen Aaron25, I am a first lieutenant in the US Army. We are not cowards by anyone's standards' and i resent the implication. We are the most couragous army to ever walk this earth and i would put my platoon up against any country's army. We claim we fight the taliban? Bullshit. We do. Or if you don't think so, ask any afghan villager out there. They know who are and what we stand for. Maybe the real reason we reason we haven't looked like we have won these wars is because after we completely destroy an army we then try to rebuild the country and leave it better we found it. Give people making ten cents a day a chance for a better life. And maybe you ought to think about what you are doing by saying we are cowards. You fucking try it. Be a man and stop getting down on men and women giving up their lives to make sure you can live a great life where you can sit in your nice little air conditioned house and criticize the people who give you what you have.

2 years ago | Side: Yes, doable

No, I don't think any country could, but some might be able to. China has a huge population, and is well organized. Their military force is defiantly formidable, even though there are defiantly other countries that are dominant.

2 years ago | Side: No, almost impossible
1 point

Anything is possible. But if China's miltary performs as well as the products they make, it would be a very slim chance of winning any war. They would probably forget to change the oil in the tanks and break down, ect. That is also under the assumption that no other countries would go against China as well. If there was another war of that scale I would say it would be China & Russia vs the world, good luck.

2 years ago | Side: No, almost impossible
1 point

China is a big country with the biggest population in the world. They have strength national cohesion especially in the face of disasters.

2 years ago | Side: No, almost impossible
1 point

i do not beleive that anyone could over take chian, knowing everything that they have over there they could probably blow everyone up with the click of a button.

2 years ago | Side: No, almost impossible
1 point

On their own, no, but if China attacked a country such as the US, Japan, or anybody in Europe, other countries would ally with them. If China theoretically attacked Japan, the US would attack China. When this happens, the UK would attack China, and the rest of the EU would follow. Because of this and other alliances, the US, Japan, the EU, South Korea, and Australia would likely be at war, and they would win. But, if all of these countries were at war with China, China's allies such as Russia, Iran, North Korea, Cuba, and Vietnam would join the war. When Iran joined, Israel would likely use this war as an excuse to attack Iran, at which point Syria would attack Israel. When this happened, the rest of the Arab League could attack either Syria and Iran or Israel. It could go either way. It would be like the Cold War + WWII. It would likely end in a nuclear war, with neither side winning.

2 years ago | Side: No, almost impossible
1 point

Im sorry but there are soooo many mistakes here. I heard US has the most nukes? Russia doubles them with 4,000 (they used to have 44,000) and that US, Japan, and Russia had around 600,000,000 personnel, but none of them have that much population. But if i had to say on who would win, it would be neither. It all depends on Russia and India (from a geographical standpoint). In one on one China already proved they can take on the us without even one tank during the korean war by pushing the us from near the Chinese border to the middle of the country when they both called for a treaty. But if this is a massive war Russia and India will have to enter, and if they choose to side with the US then China will be surrounded and almost tripled in numbers. You all forget, in personnel, Russia is only a few 100 k's away from the US. if they choose to fight against US than they will be on the defense ( Russia might have to defend against the EU ) until the US will lose too many lives and pull out ending the war (The Chinese and its allies will not get very far if the send for a land invasion against the US but a sea war would be inevitable).

2 years ago | Side: No, almost impossible
1 point

one more thing on terrorism do what the russian alfa gruppa does. once when terrorists took over a theater in russia the gassed the enitire place hostages and all which gets them killed but sends out a message saying Hey! that dosent work on us best not mess with us

2 years ago | Side: No, almost impossible

From the my-dog's-better-than-your-dog perspective, China is not impenetrable. China's biggest issue would be unity and cohesion of its people, but there's actually a more pressing point: NO ONE WINS IN WAR!!!! EVER!!!! EVER!!!! EVER!!! EVERYONE LOSES. There's nothing left after a war. The notion that someone WINS in war is wrong thought.

Everyone loses.

2 years ago | Side: No, almost impossible
1 point

I think this would most likely fail in trying to defeat China, China has people power and money wouldn't stop them from doing so there way's is different to the west if they really wanted to take the US they could easily do so, money is everything to the west and its how most of the west sees things everything costs or has a dollar sign written on everything around them and its why things slow down because its costing us the mentality of money, wealth & Greed.

To the Chinese if it came to war Money would have very little meaning to them at all if it came to a war, they have already got people in every country to just follow orders and boom things would start rolling however I think China has no interest at all in invading other countries there interests are themselves an that is all if they discovered another planet no doubt they would most likely take the first step an that opportunity to move there entire country there. And it would be foolish to take on China it would be far to risky not just for the US but globally. They have already got Economic power over the rest of the world Currently and that is there take on war right now so wars of the future will be completely different to the ones that most of us are so used to be seen today. The Chinese are not as silly as most would believe to be.

1 year ago | Side: No, almost impossible
1 point

to be honest an awful lot of US technology has been 'stolen' from other country's and also china are in a much better economic stance to have a major war than the US, a lot of people are forgetting that china's allies such as India and North korea which will gladly support china in a war, US allies mainly focusing on Europe and SK would not be willing to engage in a conflict.

Brazil which has a growing global presents has gained close ties with china depends on china for its economy and so would almost certainly send troops to china or america,Africa has debts to pay to china after major development their by china.

Mexico has long had a grudge against america and so if the chance came would assist in subduing america

1 year ago | Side: No, almost impossible
0 points

None cant defeat any one(As no one will wage a war).No wars are going to happen in future.The only biggetst threat to humanity is ISLAMIC terrorism..All countries should jointly curb this venom before it reaches heart and central nervous system.

For the past decades CHINA is not involved in this, as it is not affected till now!!! (US ,RUSSIAand INDIA are the biggest victims of that.) It seems CHINA is supporting !!!!

4 years ago | Side: NO WAR
iamdavidh(4848) Disputed
1 point

._.

Don't fall for the fear bullshit. Terrorists can only hurt westernized countries as much as westernized countries let them. And the fear you display here is far more dangerous when spread, than a single human with a bomb strapped to their chest.

And despite my disdain for all organized religions "ISLAMIC" terrorism is a loaded term. It is just terrorism using a religion as their scapegoat and using a religion to influence the week and stupid.

It should be "INSERT THE RELIGION" terrorism... or just "terrorism".

You don't fight it by blaming a large group of people and saying "all the stuff you believe is evil!"

That's part of what they want, sow fear, divide and conquer. Genius really.

You fight it with education and by showing these poor and dumb through example and acceptance that the Western world is not the bad guy.

Guns and fear just inspire more terrorists.

2 years ago | Side: It would be simple for the US
0 points

if all the people in china went on a rampage they could destroy any country they like

4 years ago | Side: No, almost impossible
1 point

ok there's alot of good points here, but you're all forgetting who wrote "The Art of War". Enough said. LOL

3 years ago | Side: No, almost impossible
1 point

Confucist and sun tzu. the chinese have been great strategists in forming armies and warfare dating back to the han dynasty in 300bc to 200 ad which rivaled if not surpassed the roman empire. Not to mao zedongs gerualla warfare tactics.

2 years ago | Side: No, almost impossible
0 points

Ahhhh....obvioulsy most of these postings have come from Americans themselves....so biast. What war has America ever won?......the civil war?? Are we forgetting Vietnam already? There is no doubt China would win...argue all you want but who stands up to China??? no one! they just roll in and take Tibet....no one said a thing. It would take a major effort by many countrys and even then...i would not hold my breath. They can build a 6 story building in 24 hours. 36 storys in 1 month....plumbing, electrics...everything. Hate to know what they are not telling us. Americans fight for Mc donalds...Chinese would die for their country...big difference.

3 years ago | Side: It will never happen
1 point

yep many people now too thinks that chinese people are ancient ones........haha its a big mistake..china is growing tornado....its slowly raising its fangs.......and also its manpower is awesome.....they can eventually copycat anything in matters of hours or days........usa is in debt with china.....european economy is in crisis.......china is expanding its economy alond africa and southa america and also in whole asian region....in 20-30 yrs....china will eventually overtake us ,,

2 years ago | Side: No, almost impossible
KaiserDenEU(10) Disputed
1 point

The USN will have china blockaded in a month and we obviously won more wars than china has, infact for the past 2000 years they have merely been a door matt to the world (japan, mongolia,the Huns, Russia,Vietnam 1979 (Yes even china made the vietnam blunder) litterally every country in Europe 1900's (boxer rebellion opium wars etc etc,)

Usa lost wars

Vietnam 1975

"Americans fight for McDonalds" I love to point out how you hate bias when the quote alone is a mere steryotype, but if you wana be a hypocritcal jack @$$ instead be my guest

2 years ago | Side: yes, doable
Aaron25(3) Disputed
2 points

wtf you obviously aren't a person who knows much about chinese history. CHina by the 13th century lead the world in technology by 2 centuries and the size of china was much larger because they had conquered many other nations to get that land. For many years india, korea, mongolia and japan which china discovered had all payed tribute of gold every year for protection. The reason america never loses wars is becasue they always use bombs to blow the area up and then use a few people to pick off the remaining soldiers. Just like in the korean war. The americans bombed chinese fortifications every minute. the chinese used gerualla warfare to win many battles. it's because of the chinese people and soviet weapons that north korea didn't fall. ( i wish north korea fell they don't respect china in anyway now) after 800,000 chinese soldiers died

2 years ago | Side: No, almost impossible
0 points

The American Revolution, The Spanish-American War, WWI, WWII, The Korean War, in terms of body count Vietnam+ had our liberal government allowed the bombing of Laos and Cambodia (which is where the main bulk force of the NVA were trained, supplied, and recruited from) the war would have been over in the designated time, 6 Months. The Cold War (a political war, not assualt war), The Gulf War, The Iraq War, and if we could bomb Pakistan then the Afghanistan War. America defeated the World's Largest Military Power in 1776, using Native American Guerrilla Tactics, the newly devoloped grooved barrelled Black Powder Rifle, and their dear friend and ally France. America fuck yeah, lick my butt and suck my balls!

2 years ago | Side: No, almost impossible
-2 points


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