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Debate Score:23
Arguments:19
Total Votes:26
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Can atheists be "religious fundamentalists" and/or "religious fanatics"?

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Side Score: 14
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Side Score: 9
2 points

Yes a fanatic. I am atheist and I am a fan of most religions. They have really intriguing stories. Sort of like someone who likes Harry Potter series. You do not believe in magic and you do not agree with the book or concept but you are still a fan.

Side: yes
2 points

Only because of the "and/or" am I on this side.

I can not fathom how an Atheist, one who does not believe in God, could be a religious fundamentalist, when they are an atheist specifically because the do not believe in that stuff.

However I very much believe an atheist can be a religious fanatic. A fanatic being some one who is obsessed with something to a point that borders on crazy, an example of a potential religious fanatic atheist, would be pretty much any militant atheists. Only someone obsessed with religion could find so much time out of their day to debate and just argue with religious people about their beliefs that may or may not be affecting them.

This one a while back got me. Militant atheists were absolutely outraged that a religious monument was placed outside of a courthouse, and would not quiet down until they also got one, or the monument was removed. I don't remember what the ruling was and quite frankly I'm too lazy to search it, but that's not important. What's important is that atheists raised a fuss over something as simple as a statue. Not a right, or a law that might persecute atheists, or favor religious, but a simple statue. yea I get the principle of it, but the way the whole thing was handled ( I saw an interview with the head militant atheist) just seemed very petty to me.

Side: yes
1 point

Atheism does not necessarily equate to lack of religion.

Side: yes
SitaraMusica(536) Clarified
1 point

Tell me more. I want to understand your belief. .

Side: yes
pakicetus(1455) Clarified
1 point

Buddhism, for one (well, depending how you define a religion. I like GuitarGuy's criterium).

Side: yes
SysMessage43(10) Disputed
1 point

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Side: no
1 point

Just because they don't believe they don't have a religion. Their religion is a Godless one called atheism.

Side: yes

No, not really. Atheism is not a religion. Atheists do not believe in a god or gods, so no.

Side: no
Atrag(5666) Disputed
1 point

People have explained this to you time and time and time again. Not all religion believe in a God.

Side: yes
1 point

Religion implies a belief in the supernatural. Atheists do not believe in the supernatural. Therefore, atheists are not religious.

Side: no
1 point

Not playing with you until you reply to my other response about a similar topic a few days ago :P

Side: no
1 point

Understandable. but I want you to answer the toughest question from my final response in that thread which was...

Consider this scenario (as if you were Usaian): A "non-religious" philosophical organization rises to prominence and becomes increasingly popular. Eventually this organization becomes popular enough that it is proposed as a "national philosophy". Would passing the proposal be a violation of "separation of church and state" or not ?

Edit your last response in that thread to which you refer to include a response to that question, then I will adddress your whole post (there not here)

Side: yes
1 point

Religion is the institution of faith in a non-observable universe. When religion is used in pop culture to describe something that is not at all religious in nature, they are simply trying to be clever (Commercialism is the new Religion).

That being said, you don't have to be religious to be a fundamentalist or militant. Our military branches will fight each other over who is better. This isn't because Marines and Soldiers are religious fanatics.

It seems quite possible that an atheist could be a fundamentalist or a fanatic when they encounter what they consider to be a dangerous antithesis to their world view, but this doesn't make them a religious group.

(How was that definition Atypican?)

Side: no
1 point

I am not sure on this one. Can crazy football fans who love football religious fundamentalists?

Atheists for sure can be fundamentalists or fanatics.

Side: no