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Debate Score:14
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Can humanity agree on a single definition of 'evil'?

Sure

Side Score: 9
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No way

Side Score: 5
3 points

Despite 'Evil's' subjectivity there is an underlying structure that I believe I have uncovered .

Evil :

Strategy or situation becoming myopic selfishness with extreme ( malicious ) dogmatic tendencies driven by process or policy

TYPES (sub-sets)

Denial

- seams the most destructive type and can go unnoticed , Personality and process are expendable , denial of all , even to the point of denial of self . ( Dogmatic base).

Selfishness

- This type seams to be 'main stream' ; either process or personality become paramount ; it has an agenda and a lose strategy .(self or goal based)

Indifference

- usually the first step in the 'denial shift' ( myopic base )

'Evil' is fluid within theses boundaries . 'Evil' acts have a variation of the sub- sets within their basic 'structure'. Once 'it' is identified , if able ; 'evil' will shift to another sub -set in order to camouflage it's actions .

This structure can be found in any ones concept of 'evil'.

Identifying an element as 'evil' doesn't define 'why' it is so .

People often use the terms as a blanket statement without any universally accepted definition. 'They' refer to 'it' as a noun , adjective , entity , purpose ...it's all twisted .

'Evil' has not had any clear definition for a long time . Society has tried to grasp it's complexities : in the end ‘we’ still seam willing to accept shallow conclusions ; ignoring the bits that allow it's continual development .

A modern definition of it's structure is needed . I don't expect the masses to be aware of the concept I have developed here .

'Evil' is separate from 'bad' . Bad is a singularity , 'evil' is a chain of choices toward a goal , even if that goal is as simple as denial ; but 'evil' can be measured once there is a clear definition .

Good doesn't know it is 'evil' at times as well . If you understand that most charitable or any other organizations develop agendas ; like helping the homeless or defeating legislation . Strategy become myopic, full of selfishness with extreme dogmatic tendencies. Collateral damage becomes inevitable .

Since I think that 'evil' acts can be indirectly implemented and at times does not rely on personality , but process : I can not accept either ego or morals ( religion/ lack of) as an inhibitor of 'evil'.

Choice separate the 'ego' from ' evil ': you can not be what you do not know.

Ego must be aware of 'process' in order to create 'evil' . Ego can not be what it doesn't know .

Subjectivity of the 'process' and 'personality' is where ' evil' lies .

‘Myopic selfishness with extreme dogmatic tendencies’ , those words are very accurate in identifying potential for an 'evil' situation and seams to tidy up the lose ends and are kind of a 'red flag' that identifies a situation as having potential for one of 'evils sub -sets to emerge (or already have ).

Defining 'evil' isn't based on emotion; the ability to define 'evil' is in the sub -sets that I have outlined .

" Good and bad are two sides of every act , choice ; is that which connects them. They can never be separated , unlike what most religions claim........ all acts have a 'proactive' and 'destructive' consequence due to the level of dogmatic impetus : which dictate the level of 'free will' and 'determinism' in the outcome ." - Santi P

Agreed?

Then again , one would have to accept that 'evil' even exists. If one doesn't, can one be held accountable?

Side: Sure

So the more focused and determined a person is in trying to achieve their goal the higher the potential for evil, right? If so, then if at first you don't succeed, try again but after that (if you are still not successful) back off and reassess everything; your motives, intent, goal, etc. Or am I off base?

Side: Sure
1 point

If it is important to an individual , I would agree. Cautious foot prints go further on thin ice than a careless strut.

Side: Sure

I think society can agree as a whole that murdering someone is evil.

Side: Sure
2 points

The term 'evil' is used too loosly to have any real meaning.

Side: No way
ThoughtNu(107) Disputed
1 point

That is the very reason I took the time to write a definition to debate .

I disagree that the word 'evil' has no real meaning, most conflicts are based partly on it . When one tries to vilify another or simply sway the masses...How can that not have relevance?

Side: Sure
0 points

Can humanity agree on a single definition of 'evil'?

No.

Seeing as how I am part of humanity, this has been the easiest debate ever. Case closed.

Side: No way
ThoughtNu(107) Disputed
1 point

Is this what I am to expect around here as what passes as debate? Not one word (other than cav) addressing the definition I presented; just no...?

Debate doesn't only lye in the question presented but in the responses that conflict your position. To simply say no, ...It's An Opinion; not a debate.

I am wondering if I am busy playing with moons when I come from stars.

Side: Sure
-1 points

No because it's a meaningless nonsense word too steeped in religious connotation to ever be useful.

Side: No way

OK, but if it is not possible and/or desirable to separate the connotation from the word, then maybe we can coin a new word or phrase. In other words, evolve the language in order to have a useful, meaningful, sensible word.

Side: No way
ThoughtNu(107) Disputed
1 point

Where in my 'definition do I make any religious reference?

The first line was meant to clarify that very issue. 'evil' is a concept that even the most stern atheist can fully understand, if they are willing to accept that 'evil' does exist and is not dependent on mystical terms or concepts. A fact few are aware of , I agree but I disagree that the term' 'evil' is meaningless when entire peoples and nations mobilize against 'it'.

Side: Sure