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Debate Score:79
Arguments:20
Total Votes:88
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Can liberals be prolife?

Yes.

Side Score: 35
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No.

Side Score: 44
2 points

If you asking if you can call yourself liberal and be pro-life, then I would say yes, you can, but you would be taking the conservative side of the argument. It would be like a conservative who was pro-gay marriage or supported gun control. Women's right to choose one of the central tenets of the liberal platform but people don't have to be 100% liberal or 100% conservative, you can be 80% liberal and 20% conservative.

If you are asking if prolife can be a liberal position, I would say absolutely not. The pro-life position violates too many liberal principles: women's rights, social freedom, and tolerance of opposing beliefs.

Side: Yes.
skyfish(276) Clarified
1 point

i say liberals can definitely be pro life.

the life of WHOM seems to be the question here.

is it ANIT-life to stand up for the rights of the fully formed woman who is the SOLE individual who should have any say over what she does with her LIFE?

hard core fundies who are "pro-life" at the expense of the woman involved are hypocrites and/or control freaks.

Side: Yes.
2 points

Of course a person can be liberal and prolife.

Even for 21st century American liberalism, prolife is not contradictory.

Side: Yes.
1 point

Thank you, I agree. I a liberal prolifer. Upvoted. .

Side: Yes.
skyfish(276) Clarified
1 point

does that mean to imply that liberals do not have a CHOICE?

Side: Yes.
flewk(1193) Clarified
1 point

I am not sure what you are trying to suggest. You might be misinterpreting my statement due to confirmation bias or you are just trying to make a pun with choice.

Side: Yes.
1 point

I would suggest that Liberals would, by their point of view on freedoms and human rights, be pro-choice, however that does not preclude the fact that not all of them are and that some may be prolife, however, I would suggest they would be in the minority.

Side: Yes.

Someone being a "liberal" just means that most of their ideas are liberal, but that does not mean all are. Being pro life is considered a conservative idea, but what if someone believes in everything that is considered liberal except this, are they not a liberal? Of course they are.

Side: Yes.
1 point

if we CHOOSE to be...

i reject the meme that says because liberals are pro choice, that means they are anti-life

its absurd.

Side: Yes.
1 point

I believe so. One may be liberal and still not adopt every facet of that perverse ideology. In other words one does not have to champion abortion to hold liberal views. Incidentally, the terms "pro choice" and "pro life" are meaningless in my view. What if a woman "Chooses" not to have an abortion. Which is she, Pro life or pro choice?

Side: Yes.
1 point

What if a woman "Chooses" not to have an abortion. Which is she, Pro life or pro choice?

Well, irrelevant. You seem to not understand the pro-choice position. If someone is pro-choice, it means they think the option of abortion should be available to women if they want to choose to have one. Whatever choice a women makes by herself is irrelevant to whether or not she is pro-choice or pro-life.

In summary, a pro-choice person thinks that abortion should be an option. A pro-life person thinks abortion should not be an option.

Side: Yes.

Liberals can be Pro-Life. Most Liberals are against Capital Punishment, so, this tells the world how many Liberals are Pro-Life.

Side: Yes.
Cuaroc(8829) Banned
3 points

Nope.

Side: No.
Sitar(3680) Disputed
0 points

No true Scotsman fallacy. Liberals can be prolife. I am a liberal prolifer. Democrats For Life of American would disagree with you. My reference. http://democratsforlife.org/

Side: Yes.
umaroth(7) Disputed
1 point

The no true Scotsman fallacy only applies when the person saying no true scotsman does xyz is a scotsman himself. How many times does this have to be explained to you? Even the link you gave points it out very clearly.

Side: No.
Atrag(5666) Banned
2 points

STOP!!! posting the same fucking thing over and over again.

LOOK!!!! http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/Canliberalsbeprolife I assume that this was also one of your debates:

http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/ Can liberalsbeprolife_2

Side: No.
1 point

No, liberals lack individual responsibility, and they are very greedy selfish people, they would not want a a baby to disrupt their next party

Side: No.