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 Media Says It Is Perfect (6)
 
 healthcare reform (5)

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Can you explain Obama's health care plan in a nut shell?

People claim that there's a lot of misinformation about Obama Care.  So I'd like you guys to explain what you understand about it and maybe we can all sort it out together.


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I was reading Time Magazine and it basically said that Obama's Health Care plan is perfect and everyone wins. That's right, it's a perfect system that has no flaws. According to Time Magazine, at least.

Now, I haven't watched MSNBC in a while, but I'm guessing this is their message as well. And the New York Times.

So, if the media is saying that this system is good for everyone and in no way bad, why not trust the government? After all, the media supports them, so why shouldn't we?

59 days ago | Tagged As: Media Says It Is Perfect
- Tugman(720) Supported
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NBC is owned by GE. GE stands to make a massive amount of money with the Obama Administrations policies so it will use its news stations to provide favor for the president so he'll in turn make policies that benefit GE.

59 days ago
- iamdavidh(1849) Disputed
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Actually MSNBC is pissed about the concessions and the apparent back-tracking on a public option as are most progressives. But they do say something is better than what we have.

58 days ago
- chapulina(148) Disputed
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Do you base all your opinions on what the media tells you, or do you own a brain?

59 days ago
- ThePyg(3123) Disputed
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The sarcasm is too obvious...

even that wolf guy didn't miss it...

58 days ago | Tagged As: Media Says It Is Perfect
- MKIced(1756) Disputed
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Hahaha! You clearly don't know Pyg....

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58 days ago
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1) Grandfathered private healthcare (the "you get to keep your plan if you like it" clause {though it's slightly misleading}).

2) Independent committee for evaluating cost-effective treatments annually.

3) Public option (an expansion of medicare in its sphere of influence--or more specifically, who gets to be insured)

4) Possible malpractice reform (though there is no indication whether it will be in a bill)

5) New regulations, stopping private insurers from denying insurance based on pre-existing conditions or up-rating (having to pay more) based on pre-existing conditions.

6) Subsidies for the poor and currently disadvantaged (those finding it difficult to be insured).

7) Penalties for not being insured (insurance is likely to be mandatory in the same way that car insurance is mandatory).

8) A healthcare exchange similar to the exchange state representatives currently use (it plays a similar role to interstate commerce).

59 days ago
- hlakam(3) Supported
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Why should I, when the man hi'self can explain it in 4 minutes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUNCpnRBf9o&feature;=email

59 days ago | Tagged As: healthcare reform
- Mahollinder(364) Disputed
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What he says/wants and what's actually in the bills is an important distinction.

58 days ago
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Here is Nationalized Health Care in a nutshell:

The entire purpose of a government is to provide for the people those services that are more easily attained as a group than as an individual. Its easier for us all to pitch in(via taxes) and pave all of the roads, rather than everyone pave their own. Its easier for everyone to pitch in to pay for law enforcement than for everyone to have to defend themselves.

The entire purpose of health insurance is to spread a highly variable cost over a large group so that the burden of cost is evenly distributed over time and its members. The larger the group the more evenly it is spread.

The largest group in the United States of America is the United States of America. Health insurance is most effective as a national service. There are no holes in that logic, if you think you have found one please tell me and i will explain words to you.

The only problems that come up are problems of implementation. That's why people use examples of Canadians coming to the US for healthcare because the waits are too long. I for one have never thought to myself "If the Canadians can't do it right there is no way we can do it right."

I'm sure Obama's plan has problems. He is a politician just like any other leader in our country and has to make compromises and go out on limbs to get things done. But how often does a policy get put into place and it is perfect immediately and never reformed or changed? Nationalized healthcare might be bumpy at first, but it will be so much better in the long run.

58 days ago | Tagged As: healthcare reform
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I don't know that I could expalin it in a whole bag of nuts but it is my understanding that no one will be uninsured and no one will be turned down due to pre-existing conditions and/or because they are already sick. I also understand that they are wanting to keep the cost of medications down but I do not know how they will accomplish that. I understand that if you like your present policy you may keep it and it can travel with you if you are employed elsewhere.

59 days ago
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I don't know why this health care plan is so hard to understand. Even my ten year old gets it. Basically, the goal is to make sure that poor people qualify for health care coverage. Plain and simple. So the plan is to tax everyone until we are all poor and then we will all be covered ;)

59 days ago
- Pineapple(1063) Disputed
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YoUr ten year old doesn't get it, an neither do you. Hopefully next year your GPA will be high enough that you can go to your jr. Prom, but not this year Joe.

The goal is to reform the system so that wasted money is spent to actually help people.

59 days ago
- joecavalry(8879) Supported
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So, I take you don't have health care insurance and you want the rest of us to pay for it ;)

59 days ago
- ThePyg(3123) Supported
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I lol'd. That's the whole point of progressive taxing and welfare. Tax rich people more, give it all to poor people. Pretty soon, we'll all be equal financially.

58 days ago | Tagged As: Media Says It Is Perfect
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