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No animal should be killed b/c Some animals can be killed b/c
Debate Score:30
Arguments:32
Total Votes:31
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Chinese Animal Cruelty?

Go read about the Chinese dog meat festival:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lychee_and_Dog_Meat_Festival

Ok, so I read this and I was considerably troubled that this was acceptable. How can people let Dogs be abused and slaughtered, and not do anything about it.

Then I had an epiphany.

Why do I care so much that Dogs are being slaughtered. The exact same people that find this troubling probably eat beef and chicken. What makes Dogs better than cows? Wild dogs don't even do anything except give people rabies. Cows, however, fertilize grass and produce milk. Similarly, sheep make wool but are also killed for food.

So how come wild dogs can't be killed but cows can! I'm not saying dogs should be killed, I am suggesting that if they shouldn't then why should cows and sheep.

This is how I see it, every person who is outraged because the Chinese are eating "cute animals" is a hypocrite. The only group that can oppose the festival without being hypocritical are vegans/vegetarians. Think about it, we have festivals were we slaughter thousands of cows. Why isn't this appropriate?

Please explain views if you disagree with me!

No animal should be killed b/c

Side Score: 17
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Some animals can be killed b/c

Side Score: 13
3 points

Lol, yes, this is the irony of our modern day society. Everyone goes crazy over yet another social media fad. This time, it happens to be a series of torture, murder and consumption of dogs in China. All the while, the same people complaining about this atrocity, are the ones snacking on their prime cut steaks and cheeseburgers and what not. This "yulin" thing in China or whatever it was called, was nothing more than a social trend. No one who eats meat really cares about animal suffering at least not to the point where they realize what they are doing is just as bad as what went on in that Chinese festival if not, worse. Glad you realized this though.

Side: No animal should be killed b/c
2 points

Yes, I completely agree. Animals should not be treated differently to how we would treat another. Every life is worth the same, no matter if it's a dog, cow or spider. That spider is living a life just as important as a cow's so why should it be treated inferiorly?

However, I don't think animals shouldn't be killed for food. As long as it's a painless and quick death AND as long as someone is eating it do I think an animal's life is justified to be slaughtered by someone. Trophy and cruel deaths are disgusting things to be thought as being right just because it's an animal. Why is it acceptable to kill a lion or antelope and hang its head upon your fireplace? Just because its life seems inferior to ours? If you wouldn't do the same to a human why do it to another living being?

Side: No animal should be killed b/c
jacko(31) Clarified
2 points

There is an interesting paradox here. Most non-human animals could care less about killing other animals or plants, and there is no evidence that there exists any non-human animal that regards all life to be equal, none being inferior to another. On the other hand, there exist humans who do regard all life to be equal, none being inferior to another. If this moral position is superior to the alternative, does this not make the humans who hold this moral position superior?

Side: No animal should be killed b/c
ThinkerLad(267) Disputed
1 point

So you're saying that a human's moral obligation is to regard all life as equal or are you saying that because we DO regard all life as equal we are therefore superior to the animals that don't?

I suppose that because we are rational beings, unlike all other life on Earth, it makes us more superior in terms of awareness and a non-instinctive nature. However, it does not make us more superior in terms of a worthiness of life. Just because we are sentient beings does not give us more worth from a natural point of view. Although, even though I say this, I would rather kill a fly than a horse.

Side: Some animals can be killed b/c
1 point

Yes. Survival of the fittest dictates that you are the superior animal of the monkey because you have reached moral superiority, so you must kill all the monkeys who might eat the other monkeys. You can feed the bodies of the un-nice monkeys who are of your race to the nice monkeys which you excuse for eating other monkeys since they don't have the moral reasoning capacity of yourself, and prove your moral superiority is evolution's goal.

Side: No animal should be killed b/c
1 point

If it's about eating them, it's fine. It's not wrong. What it's cruel it's the way they treat those dogs. I mean, just google dogs in China, you wouldn't be pleased of what you see, at all. It's disgusting.

Yes, there's people who say it's cruel because they're dogs. Yet, they still eat meat, they are hypocritical.

In my country it's common to eat rabbits, people in America are like, NO, WHAI :(

haha

There's people who is very close-minded, indeed. But as long as you don't eat humans, all fine...

Side: Some animals can be killed b/c
arteaga34(130) Disputed
1 point

This may not be totally relevant to the topic of this debate but in what way is it fine to eat dogs and other animals as long as you don't torture them?

Side: No animal should be killed b/c
Saintnow(3684) Disputed
1 point

The way it is fine to eat dogs and other animals is if you cook them thoroughly before you eat them. That way you kill the germs that might infect you, and it's fine dining.

Side: Some animals can be killed b/c
1 point

Animals, including mankind have been killing each other to eat, and in some species just for the hell of it, since the dawn of time. Some people constantly try to empty their sanctimonious hang ups on others. If vegans and vegetarians have a troubled conscience about eating animal flesh that's fine, but they shouldn't try to impose their own personal moralistic views on those people who don't agree with their choice of restricted diet. One of the secrets of life is to eat what you want and avoid being eaten. We humans eat dogs, horses, snails, pigs, cattle, wild game, sheep, lambs, indeed almost anything that lives and breathes. Did you ever taste roast cat?, delicious, just like chicken.

Side: Some animals can be killed b/c
1 point

I completely agree. Predators have been hunting other animals since dinosaurs roamed the Earth, and to say it's wrong is to say that nature is wrong. If they abuse the animals then they're dicks and that's not OK, but the only reason western culture finds this inappropriate is because we've become so attached to the species that we see them as more valuable than other species, adopting them as pets and such. Notice, also, that when we purchase a dog we refer to it as "adoption", like a child, but when purchasing say a cow, we "bought" the cow, like merchandise.

Side: Some animals can be killed b/c
Saintnow(3684) Disputed
1 point

Predators have been hunting other animals ever since God made the first animal kill to provide a covering for Adam and Eve's sin....and maybe they were killing and eating each other even before the first animal kill since the harmony of Creation was ruined by man the creature's sin.

Side: No animal should be killed b/c
arteaga34(130) Disputed
1 point

Following your logic, let's say my diet consists of human flesh. Are you saying that it is completely fine if I decide to eat you and your family? Who are you to try and impose your own beliefs on my choice of diet right anyway right? The reason why we don't do this anymore is because we have become civilized and grown out of the point where we needed or at least thought that we needed to eat our own species in order to survive. Believe it or not, we don't need to eat human flesh any more than we need to eat animal flesh for survival needs. A plant-based diet has actually shown to increase longevity and of course without the torture and mass genocide of other sentient beings.

Side: No animal should be killed b/c
Saintnow(3684) Disputed
1 point

That's a cute dog in your icon picture. What flavor of dog do you call it? My dog is a German shepherd. I believe that's a cross between German chocolate cake and shepherd's pie....I really hope I don't have to do a taste test, but I'm sure she would taste good if I was hungry enough to eat her.

Side: Some animals can be killed b/c