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Debate Score:43
Arguments:39
Total Votes:49
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Choosing Your Childs Gender.

You use Science to choose your childs gender before they are born so you can decide whether you want a boy or a girl.

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Side Score: 19
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Against

Side Score: 24

It should be the females choice, for the same reason that it should be her decision whether or not to get an abortion. It is a parasite that resides in her body, until birth it should be up to her what to do in regards to the fetus.

Side: For
Battlecross(7) Disputed
1 point

Listen it's not a parasite, it's a living thing and it is a miracle that we can even do it do leave all of the choices to god.

Side: Against
0 points

Listen it's not a parasite

Actually, it is.

it's a living thing

As parasites are.

it is a miracle

Miracles do not exist.

all of the choices to god.

We are not slaves to a celestial dictator. We make our own decisions.

Side: For
1 point

Even though this says i am for, Personally i am neither.

I understand you would want to choose your child's gender if you have a genetic sickness that would just effect a specific gender, and it would make the quantities of abortions lower because some people abort because they want a certain gender. Or other things

But also it has a very high chance of causing birth defects and problems. Which will cost you even more money in the long run, and there are just so many more other things, but i am kinda in the middle of For and Against because it depends on your purpose of doing it.

Side: For
2 points

Yeah I didn't take this certain excuses in my argument.

But yeah, if illnesses and other stuff only affects one gender It'll be okay.

Side: For

Men and women are barely different other then glands and organs. I don't really see how choosing the gender of your child will surely and absolutely, fundamentally change them.

Though personally, I wouldn't do it, I wouldn't see the harm in it until proven otherwise. If it harms the child, I want a sample size showing that it will. Otherwise, I cannot condone something over personal feelings when there's no evidence it's harmful to any human being in any way.

Side: For
1 point

I have nothing fundamentally wrong with it, to be honest. What sends off red alarms in my brain is that, unfortunately, in most 3rd world nations, parents will choose almost entirely males. What good will females do them (undoubtedly a sexist custom)?

Then again, how would Ethiopians even have enough money to choose their child's gender? I mean, they're having children in huts, for fucks sake.

Side: Against
chatturgha(1631) Disputed
1 point

I have enough faith in the people rich enough to afford such a procedure to expect them to not have enough of an impact upon the population to severely hurt it with any sexism they may have.

Side: For
1 point

The parent(s) must essential base their lives around taking care of the child until maturity. That's 20 years of their lives drastically changed. Being willing to go through all this effort I think they should be allowed to choose gender.

Side: For

If the market has provided the choice, then choosing the child's gender is a little unnatural, it maybe still within the right.

Side: For
1 point

If the parents are aware of the risks, and as long as that child is not condemned or takes the information in a negative way, then why not?

I don't know what would happen if there was a mistake, who would be to blame? But if a parent is aware of the risks then they should be able to act upon what they know.

If the world is a free place then choosing your child's gender is something perfectly withing your right to do.

I see no reason why it is not ethical, we are in the 21st century, and as far as I see it, unless you live wholly naturally, and don't have Internet connection, you cannot speak to me about allowing nature to take it's course. The 21st century is a time for change.

Side: For
1 point

YOU SHOULD have the right to choose the gender of your child. this will be fair to you and has NO EFFECT ON THE CHILD ITSELF.

Side: For

It sounds like the right thing to do. If parents want a certain gender, they should be able to choose.

Side: For
2 points

You know, about everyone I talked to wants a boy. Why? So they can continue the family name. Yes, I would love to continue mine too, but to have 1,000 more boys then girls. The only counter argument I have is that there is less males then they are females due to war and all of that.

Na, just let nature do it for you.

Side: Against
1 point

True. But i don't think the war thing is a good excuse because females go to war too, and the family name thing is true but I'm a female so i wont have my name anyway when i get married. So yeah i guess.

Side: Against
1 point

True. But i don't think the war thing is a good excuse because females go to war too, and the family name thing is true but I'm a female so i wont have my name anyway when i get married. So yeah i guess.

Side: Against
2 points

Yes, but if the draft starts again (most likely never will) it will be males again. Females can't serve in frontline units or special forces YET. However, it would take many upon many wars to equal the female and male ratio out.

Killing one gender or the other is not the answer anyway. I don't think we should choose gender either. If we mess with the genes too much, we will screw up our reproduction. History has told us that. Therefore, we should not mess with it.

NOTE; SORRY FOR THE SECOND POST. I DIDN'T MEAN TO DO THAT.

Side: Against
1 point

Yeah, a war isn't an excuse.

Children aren't born in this world to fight. No matter what sex they are

Side: Against
1 point

Then we're seriously taking over life in a ridiculous way.

Let nature take its course.

I don't have an argument of WHY this shouldn't happen. I think its interesting to learn about how you do and stuff, but if people can go around and choose their children's gender, the world is seriously screwed up.

Side: Against
1 point

i agree, it is we that it is ridicules that we have gotten so into controlling stuff that now we even have a way to control natural courses, but i guess like i said before if it is to stop your child from suffering a sickness then i guess that is okay (still bad) but better than just being a complete control freak, or being selfish

Side: Against
1 point

Yeah!

Its a benefit to be ABLE to do a thing like that. I'm amazed that we've come so far in technology and science, but I think there is a line of what we can offer people.

Its not like they're gonna chose whether they want to have an egg or a bagel for breakfast.

Side: Against
dwah(25) Disputed
1 point

"Let nature take its course."

Nature would dictate that we live in a Darwinian society where the weak perish and the strong survive. There is nothing natural about how humans live their lives. The fact that almost all our children survive is shocking by natural standards.

Would you allow people to choose the gender of their second child so that they have 1 boy and 1 girl?

Side: For
_deleted0_(850) Disputed
1 point

Would you allow people to choose the gender of their second child so that they have 1 boy and 1 girl?

No!

Only if there is some illnesses wich only affects one gender, then I'd think it'd be okay. But all that stuff about nature..

You know there's a lot of stuff that I think is really stupid. F.ex. Gay's can't marry somewhere and stuff.. but it dosen't really 'annoy' me, that they can't. I just think its wrong.

But if people were going to choose a gender when having children, I would seriously be annoyed. But again, the world doesn't care If Im annoyed..

But if people could chose the gender, then it wouldn't be very much longer, till they can decide their babies looks..

And thats not good in ANY way.

Nobody thinks one is pretty, or at least very few. Its normal to dig up flaws with yourselves, and if my parents decided how I was gonna look, I could blame them.

You understand? And there are several reasons why you shouldn't choose your childrens looks.

Side: Against
1 point

If you're going to have a child, you must love them equally. There is a roughly 50/50 chance on you getting what you want. There is no "preference" in what your child should be. It's inhumane and irrational.

Side: Against
dwah(25) Disputed
1 point

Why wouldn't the love be equal? If anything this would encourage that, you'd never feel cheated if you got the wrong one.

There are no victims to this "crime", so you can hardly say it's inhumane.

And if you make a decision to have a boy or girl, that's kind of the definition of rational.

Side: For
1 point

we have truley crossed the line in technology. stupid 50 characters.

Side: Against
Micmacmoc(2260) Disputed
1 point

Why is it not ethical? Your child will have a gender anyway, why not choose it for them?

Side: For

My argument is that there will be an unnatural bias toward one gender. Take China, for example. Because of their one child policy, girls are often abandoned because men bring more money to the family, and if we allowed gender choice, we would see huge biases toward one gender (probably male). Simply put, there would be too many dicks and not enough chicks, knowwhattimsayin'. In an extreme case, it might result in the demise of the human race due to there not being enough women, unless state sanctioned rape was allowed.

Side: Against
1 point

exactly! Because if this was open to everyone than people would take advantage and stuff

Side: Against
Conro(767) Disputed
1 point

But how would all these people who would obviously opt for male children pay for the procedure. As of 2009, a body in the United States, The Fertility Institutes, is letting potential parents come in to choose the gender of the infant for $18,500 a pop. That's quite a hefty sum for parents. And, it tends to be true that in more Westernized or educated countries, there would not be a strong bias towards "choosing" one gender over another. So we are left with the conclusion that those who are the most likely to force a male bias are probably too poor to afford the procedure.

Side: For
1 point

No. I couldn't live my life with a son/daughter thinking "you could have been the opposite sex." Knowing that if i wanted, i could have a completely different child to the one i love now. I would not want that.

Side: Against
1 point

In no way should this be allowed, in england a while ago, an asian doctot was done for allowing her patients to abort on the grounds of genderin india at the moment baby girls are killed/aborted because they will cost the family to much in the terms of a dowry.If this was ever allowed it could lead on to eugenics and a creation of a master race is that what we really all want.WE ARE SO FRAGILE

Side: Against
1 point

Ethical issues aside, the cost would be unfair to those to poor to afford it. $18500 is a large sum and the poor who wanted to make a decision would be penalised for not affording it. This discrimination against the poor is everything we, as a country, are trying to avoid.

Side: Against
1 point

Children are blessings that you should accept. Don't you trust God to give you your fate and decide your gender? You are selfish to pick your own gender just to carry the family name or to carry out some deed for you. Just let nature take its course.

Side: Against
1 point

No. If people could choose the sex of their child, especially in places like China, than the majority would obviously be boys for military/honor purposes. We need a consistent 50% of either sex for the production of more humans. The population of boys would highly exceed the population of girls. There should be a relative balance.

Side: Against
0 points

You know, about everyone I talked to wants a boy. Why? So they can continue the family name. Yes, I would love to continue mine too, but to have 1,000 more boys then girls. The only counter argument I have is that there is less males then they are females due to war and all of that.

Na, just let nature do it for you.

Side: Against
dwah(25) Disputed
1 point

You only need 1 child for that. And why would that be a bad thing? Most people have more than 1 child, so after getting a boy they can have a girl.

I think enough people would opt to have girls to stop the gap becoming too significant. And even if it did, it would be self correcting. People would start choosing girls instead. And if it didn't, at least over-crowding wouldn't become so much of a problem.

Side: For