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 Classical liberals (conservatives) and liberals are the same exact thing (48)

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Classical liberals (conservatives) and liberals are the same exact thing

It's just that one is more "classical" and the other is more "liberal".
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Classical liberals (conservatives) and liberals are the same exact thing

True. Classical liberals are actually conservatives today who refuse to acknowledge their party is anything but liberal now.

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Classical liberals (conservatives) and liberals are the same exact thing

That would explain why (conservatives) and liberals have the same exact political opinions.

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That would explain why (conservatives) and liberals have the same exact political opinions.

They have marginally different political opinions and those marginally different opinions are purposefully exaggerated and emphasised at the expense of the vast majority of things they both agree on.

They have marginally different political opinions and those marginally different opinions are purposefully exaggerated and emphasised at the expense of the vast majority of things they both agree on.

I'll give you a good example in fact: Brexit.

Brexit began as an internal dispute between different factions of the Conservative Party and has grown to absolutely dominate political media coverage in the UK. The press are the biggest problem when it comes to marginalising politics.

LordofFacts(167) Disputed
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That would explain why (conservatives) and liberals have the same exact political opinions.

Conservatives are literally liberals, liberals are more liberal liberals. You are both capitalist republicans (not meaning the party but the republic system itself).

Amarel(4784) Clarified
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Like you said, they are the exact same thing. They have the exact same values and the exact same opinions.

AlofRI(2562) Clarified
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They have the exact same ideas at different times, evidently. Here is the 1956 Republican platform (According to Snopes Fact Check:)

1. Provide Federal assistance to lo-income families.

2. Protect SS, provide asylum for refugees.

3. Extend minimum wage.

4. Improve unemployment benefits to cover more people.

5. Strengthen labor laws so workers can easily join unions

6. Assure equal pay for equal work regardless of sex.

No talk of the 90% tax rate that STILL allowed the rich to get richer … though at a slightly slower rate. The rest seems to point to improving the lives of working people. Kind of "leftish" it seems …. same old stuff, different party.

WHY did Republicans abandon the real, hard-working Americans?? Oh, they didn't, the TRUMPICANS did. There IS no Republican Party anymore. :-(

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"Conservative" and "liberal" represent two different political metrics. Conservative means you want to keep things as they are, as opposed to progressive. So the term conservative can have different meanings depending on which country you live in. Liberalism is a specific term in no way connected to progressivism and/or conservatism. A mentally sound liberal will be conservative on some issues and progressive on others. The thing you call NON-classical liberalism (neoliberalism)is an abberation created by cultural marxists and post-modernists, and has little in common with actual liberalism.

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"Conservative" and "liberal" represent two different political metrics. Conservative means you want to keep things as they are, as opposed to progressive.

Conservatives and Liberals are just different types of capitalist. It does not matter how you attempt to warp words, you cannot change the fact that they both believe in the same ideology. How would you feel if Muslims took over, gave you a choice between Sunni or Shia, and then tried to pretend they were the only two things a person could reasonably be in life? You wouldn't like it would you?

BigOats(1341) Disputed
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First of all, "conservative" isn't an ideology in and of itself. A conservative in Saudi Arabia is something very different from a conservative in the US or UK. Second, capitalilsm isn't an ideology, it's a very broad term describing economic systems with free trade and freedom of enterprise. And although the latter are an integral part of liberal ideology, they are far from being the only defining traits of liberalism. Otherwise you would have to call Russia a liberal country, which would be an absurd thing to do.