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Bwahahahahaha, justice I'm a clown
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Coming to America just for the welfare? Think again.

Bwahahahahaha, justice

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I'm a clown

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This is undeniably a good thing, but it doesn't solve the even bigger problem: Naturalized American citizens who soak the system and use the welfare system to live their lives with the least amount of effort possible. I have family members who (for ten years), have lived solely off of government provision. They CHOOSE not to get jobs, and they CHOOSE to live in the most minimal way possible.

Everyone is so concerned about the immigrants coming into the country who may take advantage of GovProvs, that no one seems to think it's an issue that people who were actually born here are doing that very thing.

Side: Bwahahahahaha, justice
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Do you mean naturalized citizens (immigrants who became citizens) or natural born citizens (citizens born here)?

I think discussing the welfare state in general is very different topic.

Side: Bwahahahahaha, justice
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I've got not problem with that welfare ban as long as they're legal adults. If it's a kid then we don't really want kids suffering or dieing. Technically they don't have autonomous choice in their lives yet, so you can't blame the kid for being here illegally.

But yeah, I could block it for adult illegal immigrants.

Hey, I and many lifelong American adults have never once tapped in to any kind of welfare even though we pay into it, so why does someone get to walk across the border and then go sign right up?

Side: Bwahahahahaha, justice
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Hello bront:

It's a great idea.. In fact, Clinton signed a law that did just that over 20 years ago.

The pussy grabber in chief should bone up on a little history.

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-welfare-law us594b5630e4b0a3a837bcef3d

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Sure. If immigrants don't have access to public welfare then they shouldn't have to pay taxes.

That sounds fair. But if they do pay taxes they should have access to what they paid for.

Side: I'm a clown