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Conservatives: "Facts Are Notorious For Being Biased Against Us. Therefore We Win."

Do liberals predominate on faculties? They do. Back in 2006, sociologist Solon Simmons and I conducted a national survey of professors' politics. Advocates of reform such as psychologist Jonathan Haidt, political scientists Jon Shields and Joshua Dunn, and New York Times columnist Nicholas Kristof have used our findings to characterize college campuses as bastions of progressivism.

Academia = leftist conspiracy

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Academia =pursuit of knowledge

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Liberally monopolized colleges not hiring conservatives isn't surprising. Diversity of thought is unacceptable to the left. Fall in line or no job.

The left calls the right uneducated hillbillies with one hand and imperialist, priviliged, rich imperialist elites with its other hand. Want to see them swap their position? Give it five minutes.

And in an ironic twist of fate, most Asians in the world aren't liberal in any way shape or form, so liberal colleges purposefully use anti affirmative action to keep them from monopolizing western schools by lowering test score requirements for certain ethnic groups and ignoring Asian high test scores and literally discriminating against smart Asian kids, and why? Asians are "basically white", or so libs tell us...

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Liberally monopolized colleges

You are purposefully warping language again, bronto. Colleges are monopolized by the smartest people in their respective fields of study. You are trying to make it seem like there is a sinister liberal conspiracy involving 4,000 different colleges and all their staff members.

Side: Academia =pursuit of knowledge
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You are purposefully warping language again, bronto. Colleges are monopolized by the smartest people in their respective fields

Not actually. It's common knowledge that Asians are purposefully discriminated against, despite higher test scores and better qualifications, by liberal colleges. Google it. Then come back and share your findings.

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Do liberals predominate on faculties? They do.

Aren't these the same geniuses that told us climate change would destroy the Earth by 2002?....

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excon(18261) Disputed
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Hello bront:

If you're a right winger when you get to college, and you're a liberal when you leave, it means you got educated. Unless, of course, you believe that EVERYBODY who goes to college gets PROGRAMED by George Sorros and Nancy Pelosi..

excon

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Unless, of course, you believe that EVERYBODY who goes to college gets PROGRAMED by George Sorros and Nancy Pelosi

You can't "program" someone who's programmed already. You can program kids, and they are. I watched leftist propaganda videos my first two weeks of class.

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When your final argument is to resort to calling the other side conspiratorial, you know youve lost the debate entirely. Gee i wonder why the most well-read, informed, and educated people in our society are mostly liberal leaning.

Maybe, just maybe, its because the left is right on most every issue.

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Maybe, just maybe, its because the left is right on most every issue.

And in an ironic twist of fate, most Asians in the world aren't liberal in any way shape or form, so liberal colleges purposefully use anti affirmative action to keep them from monopolizing western schools by lowering test score requirements for certain ethnic groups and ignoring their high test scores...

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And in an ironic twist of fate, most Asians in the world aren't liberal in any way shape or form

Honestly bronto. You judge political affiliation on the basis of skin colour and you wonder why people think you're stupid?

so liberal colleges purposefully use anti affirmative action to keep them from monopolizing western schools by lowering test score requirements for certain ethnic groups and ignoring their high test scores...

God, you're such an idiot. Asians make up the overwhelming majority of international college students in America. You're literally claiming the opposite of the truth again, aren't you? American colleges are more than happy to accept Asian capital because the significant investment Asia has made in educating its people in America directly benefits the United States.

China is the largest sender of international students to the U.S., with Chinese students accounting for 31.5% (328,547) of all international enrollments (1,043,839) in the U.S., according to the Institute of International Education (IIE). China is followed by India (165,918), Saudi Arabia (61,287), South Korea (61,007) and Canada (26,973).

http://time.com/4569564/international-us-students/

So, of the five countries with the most international students in college in the United States, four of them are in Asia!!

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When your final argument is to resort to calling the other side conspiratorial, you know youve lost the debate entirely

"Russian collusion" sound familiar?......

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AveSatanas(4443) Disputed
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Im not a democrat nor in the collusion camp in any way whatsoever. I actually agree with you 100% that this line of attack is a poorly substantiated dodge. That being said theres a difference between saying "we should investigate to determine if there was collusion or not" and saying "there was collusion". An investigation doesnt mean anything until it concludes.

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A long running debate on AWE ultimately resulted in the conclusion that facts were liberal things. I was astounded when no conservative even bothered to challenge the conclusion.

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1) There are both liberals and conservatives represented in college faculty and administrations. But is true there are more liberals. And that isn't because conservatives get shut out from getting those positions. It's because conservatives for generations didn't want them. They don't want them because:

a) teaching, as a profession, is about lifting up all in your community, which is much more of a liberal mindset than conservative. Heck, if your take on social issues is people need to pull themselves up by their own bootstraps and whatever their challenge it's their own darn problem they face it then why would you want to teach?

b) conservatives, once out of school, are about doing their thing and getting theirs, whether it's business or some other profession. They don't want to be full time faculty. Indeed the ones who dabble in the field are basically in it just to market what they know and make a buck off of it (like Trump University, hmm).

2) It isn't liberals who repeatedly cut funding to education whenever they get a chance. Why would an industry that depends on schools be heavily staffed with the people who want to defund schools?

3) A fact is not automatically right or wrong just because it comes from a liberal or a conservative. What is indeed wrong though is just pointing to the side it originated from and not bothering to study what it is. Once upon a time the conservative positions were the earth was the center of the universe, and/or it's flat, and it's only a few thousand years old. Evidence to the contrary is not wrong just because it comes from someone not in line with the conservative thoughts of their day. Indeed, usually it's the contrary. Usually the reason the liberal sourced facts have basis, which is why they can't just get swept under the rug by conservative critics.

4) Finally, I just want to point out that many of most ardent critics of academia for being liberal are people who are outsiders to that whole experience. They either never went to college or dropped out without finishing. Not all. There are exceptions. But I know among my family the people who think they're so smart poking at academia are the ones who never sat a single day in a college classroom to know anything about what it's really like.

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conservatives, once out of school, are about doing their thing and getting theirs, whether it's business or some other profession.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2008/12/21/opinion/21kristof.html

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if your take on social issues is people need to pull themselves up by their own bootstraps and whatever their challenge it's their own darn problem they face it then why would you want to teach

To teach them how to pull up their bootstraps.

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teaching, as a profession, is about lifting up all in your community, which is much more of a liberal mindset than conservative

And yet liberal areas are crime infested hell holes. And of course if you need volunteers for charities, charitable donations, or someone to save or help you in a natural disaster, the left whistles while it walks...

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Finally, I just want to point out that many of most ardent critics of academia for being liberal are people who are outsiders to that whole experience

I'm not. I was shown propaganda videos my first two weeks of class concerning the environment, fossil fuels and social justice issues. And my major was business...

And being an adult, I rolled my eyes in disgust, fully understanding what I was being presented and why.

The kids stared blankly at the screen like zombies, unaware of the brainwashing.

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It isn't liberals who repeatedly cut funding to education whenever they get a chance

They spend it on things like $150,000 astro play. And it has nothing to do with education.

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conservatives, once out of school, are about doing their thing and getting theirs, whether it's business or some other profession

All of these Hollywood liberal elites are known for helping their communities. Oh wait. They were busy raping and molesting women and children in mass while the left ignlred it, conveniently waiting for a righty to be accused of less. My mistake.

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