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Yes they are They LOVE the Constitution
Debate Score:25
Arguments:31
Total Votes:25
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Constitution loving right wingers are READY to throw it overboard

Hello:

It appears that they LIKE mass UNCONSTITUTIONAL detention..  I guess the internment of the Japanese during WW II was just FINE...

excon

http://www.salon.com/2017/06/09/conservative-media-call-for-internment-of-muslims-following-london-attacks_partner/

Yes they are

Side Score: 7
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They LOVE the Constitution

Side Score: 18
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Yes, but in fairness the extremists from both ends of the political spectrum do that when they don't like Constitutional protections. When the Left wants to censor free speech by the right they're doing it too.

Side: Yes they are
outlaw60(15368) Clarified
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Do you know who was the president during WW2 ? FDR ring a bell ?

Side: Yes they are

I could go death Con 9 and talk about the Constitutionality of roundups when national security is at risk, but it would whiz right across heads and out the window and instantly into labeling and accusing, despite me simply stating facts.

So let's go there shall we?

Leftist Political correctness is an attempt to violate the First Amendment.

Shutting down Conservative speeches with violence is an attack on the First Amendment.

Leftist Overzealous gun laws and/or attempts to take guns away are an attack on the 2nd Amendment.

Leftists not protecting our country from threats abroad is a violation of the 10th Amendment.

Side: They LOVE the Constitution
excon(18261) Disputed
1 point

Hello bront:

DUDE!!! Wrong on ALL points..

It's DEFCON, not death con

The First Amendment protects us from GOVERNMENT - NOT leftists.

Same thing with your speeches.

Nahhh... IF leftists wanted to TAKE your guns away, I'd agree that it's an attack on the 2nd Amendment.. But, they DON'T.. They simply DON'T...

I NEVER took an Oath of Citizenship.. Does that mean I'm NOT a citizen???

I DO notice, though, that you don't DENY that you wanna SHITCAN the Constitution, and that was the POINT of this debate.

DUDE!

excon

Side: Yes they are
1 point

death con

It was a play on your name. If you can't keep up, it's not my fault.

Side: They LOVE the Constitution
1 point

the First Amendment protects us from GOVERNMENT - NOT leftists.

The government isn't using physical force and media propaganda to muzzle Conservatives. The left is.

Side: They LOVE the Constitution
1 point

Nahhh... IF leftists wanted to TAKE your guns away, I'd agree that it's an attack on the 2nd Amendment.. But, they DON'T.. They simply DON'T

Then you hold a minority view to the others in your party.

Side: They LOVE the Constitution
1 point

I NEVER took an Oath of Citizenship.. Does that mean I'm NOT a citizen

The 10th Amendment still stands no matter your path to citizenship.

Side: They LOVE the Constitution
1 point

I DO notice, though, that you don't DENY that you wanna SHITCAN the Constitution, and that was the POINT of this debate

So your claim is that FDR "violated the Constitution"? I'd like to see the dance you put on to try and make that stick.

Side: They LOVE the Constitution
1 point

Just because you don't like an idea, that doesn't magically make it unconstutional.

http://www.findingdulcinea.com/news/on-this-day/On-this-Day--The-Supreme-Court-Upholds-WWII-Internment-of-Japanese-Americans-.html

And just because you want to dream and believe that all cultures love us and all foreigners are "good people" doesn't mean that you live in reality.

Side: They LOVE the Constitution
outlaw60(15368) Clarified
1 point

FRAUD you are really stupid !

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

1st Amendment protects religion , the press and the right to PEACEABLY assemble and to petition the Government and that is all !

Come on FRAUD tell me all about how the 1st Amendment protects us all from Government overreach and Government taxation ! Do you see it quoted in the 1st Amendment ?

Side: Yes they are

I find it ironic that the example used of "roundups" was ordered by none other than a Democrat.

Side: They LOVE the Constitution

FDR rounded up 120,000 Japanese into camps, 62% of which were American citizens.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment ofJapanese_Americans

Side: They LOVE the Constitution
excon(18261) Disputed
1 point

Hello bront:

DUDE AGAIN!!!!!

So, since a left wing president did it, it's ok if Trump does it???

DUDE!!!!

excon

Side: Yes they are
1 point

1)The fact it was a left winger means that calling it "right wing thinking" is bs.

2)Round ups are done out of desperation when a group has become a threat to the very people that welcomed them in. Is it nice? No. But nice is getting us bombed, knifed, raped, burned alive and killed. At some point you have to realize you are in a fight and fight back. You don't just keep bringing them in hoping "these are all good ones". That is insanity and unforgivably stupid.

Side: They LOVE the Constitution

And finally, the Islamic attacks on the West have reached to the point of being an act of war, and it should be treated as such. And I don't want to hear about the Jews. The Jews were not bombing, threatening and killing the Germans, nor were they commanded to kill Germans by name in the Torah. Muslims are commanded to kill 3 groups by name: Jews, Christians, Unbelievers. So they are literally "commanded by Allah" to destroy the West and kill Westerners.

We gave them their shot. We were nice about it. We welcomed them into our countries, and? It's not worked out. They come in and kill us. We have the right to stop dangerous infiltrated groups from entering into our family and children's space.

Side: They LOVE the Constitution
excon(18261) Disputed
1 point

Hello again, bront:

DUDE!!!

Well, if THAT'S the reason you wanna SHITCAN the Constitution, who could complain???

Well, I'll tell you WHO could complain?? ME!!! A Constitution loving patriot like ME!! A man who DEFENDED the Constitution with his LIFE, like ME.. A man who SWORE an oath to the Constitution, like ME..

That's who..

excon

Side: Yes they are
1 point

Just because you don't like it, that doesn't make it unconstitutional. Its "Constitutionality" was held up by the Supreme Court.

And just because you wish Islam wasn't dangerous, that doesn't magically mean it isn't. We were nice. We let them in. We tried. It didn't work out. Let the West heal and have a break from its people being slaughtered in the streets.

Side: Yes they are
excon(18261) Disputed
1 point

Hello again, bront:

I got it.. You're FINE with DESTROYING the Constitution.. I got it..

So, here's the DEAL.. Whenever I hear a rightwinger, like YOU, SNIVEL about left wingers who don't respect the Constitution, I'm gonna REMIND you of your hypocrisy...

Did you take this aforementioned citizenship oath?? Did you take an oath when you joined the military??? Did it say, I'll obey it until I decide I don't like it??? I don't think it did..

I took an oath, and I don't remember those words.. Do you even UNDERSTAND what an oath is??? Naah, you don't... It's a promise WITHOUT an escape clause.. You don't know what that means, do you??? You either LOVE this country or you HATE it.. There is NO middle ground. From MY perspective, anybody who'd THROW the Constitution away, HATES it here...

excon

Side: Yes they are
1 point

So, here's the DEAL.. Whenever I hear a rightwinger, like YOU, SNIVEL about left wingers who don't respect the Constitution, I'm gonna REMIND you of your hypocrisy

Fact: it isn't unconstutional.

http://www.findingdulcinea.com/news/on-this-day/On-this-Day--The-Supreme-Court-Upholds-WWII-Internment-of-Japanese-Americans-.html

Fact: saying it is doesn't make it true.

Fact: me stating that it is constitutional doesn't mean I like the idea or think it's neccessary, at least not yet.

Side: They LOVE the Constitution
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Did you take an oath when you joined the military??? Did it say, I'll obey it until I decide I don't like it??

And what is it exactly that soldiers do again? Protect our people from foreign enemies and protect our country? What a novel idea. How about applying it today and not just yesterday..

Side: They LOVE the Constitution
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You don't know what that means, do you??? You either LOVE this country or you HATE it.. There is NO middle ground

I love my country. That's why I am not opening my arms up to groups who are dangerous and are our people's enemies like a mindless twit.

Side: They LOVE the Constitution
outlaw60(15368) Clarified
1 point

The only people that want to destroy the Constitution are the people on the Left have you not figured that out STUPID !

Side: Yes they are

Quit saying it's unconstitutional when it isn't. Do I want to round people up? No. But if we keep having acts of war manifested on us and it becomes them or my family, I can justify roundups real quick like.

http://www.findingdulcinea.com/news/on-this-day/On-this-Day--The-Supreme-Court-Upholds-WWII-Internment-of-Japanese-Americans-.html

Side: They LOVE the Constitution
excon(18261) Disputed
1 point

Hello bront:

You can't round people up... They're entitled to due process.. Rounding 'em up, is ANYTHING but due process...

No wonder you'd just as soon get rid of the Constitution.. You have NO IDEA what it says..

excon

Side: Yes they are
1 point

FRAUD you need to stay in the basement there boy !!!!!!!!

You ever of FDR FRAUD ?

Side: They LOVE the Constitution
1 point

Please explain how our constitution protected the Nazi soldiers who gassed Jews or the filthy slave owners who raped and hung blacks? If citizens who become felons can not vote and forfeit their 5th Amendment rights, then what makes you think that illegals who are not citizens have any rights. Except as war criminal invaders and spies.

Side: They LOVE the Constitution
excon(18261) Disputed
1 point

Hello again, UNTRUTH:

Dude!

The Constitution DIDN'T protect Nazi's.. Don't know where you learned that.. SOME felons can't vote, but MOST of 'em can, and they DON'T lose their 5th Amendment rights... PERIOD! This debate is about rounding up American citizens - not illegals.

No truths outta 5 is exceptionally bad..

Dude!

excon

Side: Yes they are
outlaw60(15368) Clarified
1 point

FRAUD you are saying the Leftist want to round up citizens just like FDR did ? FDR was a Democrat is that what the Progressives want as of today ?

Side: Yes they are
outlaw60(15368) Clarified
1 point

You are really spun out today FRAUD if you can make the connection between Nazi's and the 5th Amendment then give me your convoluted answer !

Side: Yes they are