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6
12
For someone watching Against someone watching
Debate Score:18
Arguments:16
Total Votes:18
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Control of the internet

Well they're at it again, some buggers are trying to take control of the world wide web and edit it to their liing. But is it such a bad thing? Having some one spend money on removing The worst forms of porn and to kick out the scammers as well as keep sites in line so blogs and other social/media sites cann't do hate campaigns and all the horrid stuff that can be found on the internet. If these people stop pedophiles from being able to chat more effectivily than the police and stop fraud and the seeling of illegal items isn't it good? But having some one take away the freedom of the internet seems to stir quite a bit of a dust cloud. So I'm curious to peoples geniune beliefs about why this will effect them so much and how it will ruin their online life. Or those who have no problem with it but for different reasons than I have said.

 

P.s I really wish they put spellcheck on this so I could see if anything is wrong and try to correct it.

For someone watching

Side Score: 6
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Against someone watching

Side Score: 12
1 point

As you can guess I'm for it more than anything with only a few problems of never knowing who really is in control. But I just wish to say to all the grammar Nazis that I realise some of my spelling is bad but the thing is some people have selective reading. So when I reread it it looked fine then I posted it and realised that there is quite a few.

339 days ago | Side: For someone watching
iamdavidh(4804) Disputed
1 point

"there are quite a few" :P

338 days ago | Side: Against someone watching
1 point

I stand by the argument that everything needs some form of regulation, because human behaviour is always unpredictable, weird and at times precarious and dangerous.

But as with all regulation, there are costs, it will probably inhibit alot of good things that people are doing out there as well as their creativity which is practically nourishment for the internet, but some thought needs to be given to that. I guess SOPA would be such an example.

339 days ago | Side: For someone watching
iamdavidh(4804) Disputed
1 point

It is already regulated. If it is suspected laws are being broken, they only need obtain a search warrant. I do not believe the desire to control stems from catching criminals. I suspect there are other motives.

338 days ago | Side: Against someone watching
4 points

As far as I see it, hate the player, not the game.

If paedophiles are harassing young children, then get the police to go round and throw them in jail, don't ruin the internet for the vast majority that don't want to fiddle children.

Collective punishment is restricting and unfair. Misuses of the internet should be dealt with individually, not collectively.

338 days ago | Side: Against someone watching
2 points

Sort of.

Seems to me however that they have all the power then need to hunt down bad guys. FBI tracks hate groups via internet. Pedophiles are busted every day via internet. Terrorist groups communications are spied on via the internet. All perfectly legal.

Why then if they already do this, already can do this, are already doing it every day, is there constantly a push to do it more?

I suspect "catching bad guys" is a red herring.

I suspect given more power in this area it would be used for something competely counter to what it was intended for.

I have a recent example. The Patriot Act allowed, basically, the right to spy on citizens free for all style. Most said "great idea! I have nothing to hide!" when it was about terrorism.

Fast forward to 2012, Florida is sues Homeland Security for their records obtained from the Patriot Act, to find out who voted for who in their voter purge scheme.

I don't trust it. They have enough power as is to track criminals on the internet.

338 days ago | Side: Against someone watching
PyroWolf(55) Clarified
1 point

Well from what I have heard/read they want to make it more one group so then you can cross check and organise better (in theory) instead of having so many different watch groups each having different people in charge. Of course this can be beneficial if information was shared better so that different points of view can also be brought into whatever situation is going on. But pedophiles and the likes of are just one part of my argument, they also want to clean up the less desirable stuff that should be brought and watched at your home, I'm all for normal porn and even some of the more erotic stuff being left alone even though I don't need it because it keeps people happy. But some of the sites I have come across include details in how to capture and rape women or show extensive torture, which to a teenage mind or a slightly coo coo mind might seem like that is what sex is meant to be. Admitting that the need for these "fantasy" films and pictures with willing participants is necessary to stop people from living out them but would be better off not available online but needs to be brought.

338 days ago | Side: For someone watching
Micmacmoc(2154) Disputed
1 point

But if the Internet were monitered then that would mean that the police force could become more effective as a whole anyway.

338 days ago | Side: For someone watching
ChuckHades(3176) Disputed
2 points

Efficiency is not an excuse to restrict the liberties of the people. I can think of a whole number of things that would increase efficiency, yet aren't put into place because individual rights are more important.

338 days ago | Side: Against someone watching
PyroWolf(55) Disputed
1 point

I get what your saying but how are they meant to find the player in today's tech savvy world when there is all those wonderful things to hide your self behind? By having some one monitor the internet I think would be a improvement but I didn't say I support down right control. If some one became to heavy on what was on the internet all kinds of back routes and dodgy things would start. Also could you explain better how his is a collective punishment when what the main goals are to clean up the frankly filthy shit that is on here sometimes including the bastards who do these crimes against not just children but men and women of all ages and entire families sometimes. Think of it as lunch break at a lose school, able to ruff and tumble and do some stupid things but there is still a teacher to stop the bullying and make sure people act civilised.

338 days ago | Side: For someone watching
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