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Debate Score:15
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Total Votes:16
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1 point

Its absolutely absurd watching from a foreign nation the lunacy that occurs in the US with movements such as ANTIFA and BLM. Ive researched this quite a bit out of personal interest, and am baffled to think where their argument even comes from. Considering that the current US population is 321.1 million, and the black community composes roughly 12.3% of this, one would expect to see roughly proportional incarceration rates statistically. However, this is not the case. In 2014 alone, blacks constituted 34% if the US correctional facility attendees. Black individuals are imprisoned at a rate five times higher than that of white individuals, and in the case of women two times higher. They have higher percentages of drug possession, poverty, lower rates of education, more instances of single parenthood, less employment, and disproportionate rates of homicide among their own race. What baffles me even more is how the black community consistently dedicates their votes to the left, who continue to promise their communities improvement which never comes. What is ridiculously confusing is how far left groups can make the claim that law enforcers go out of their way to persecute black individuals, when given the stats and facts listed above, they would have a higher likelihood of encountering police officers in situations that get them arrested. Some of you Americans are crazy, I swear.

Side: crazy
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Its absolutely absurd watching from a foreign nation the lunacy that occurs in the US with movements such as ANTIFA and BLM. Ive researched this quite a bit out of personal interest, and am baffled to think where their argument even comes from.

If you're baffled about why people hate fascism then you probably didn't get as far as researching WW2, did you?

Side: some bad excuse
Amarel(5669) Disputed
2 points

Many people who hate fascism and would fight fascists cannot relate to Antifa. Antifa hates much more than fascism. Fascism just happens to be the name they give to everything they hate.

Side: crazy
Athene(41) Disputed
2 points

Its not fascism, not even close. The only fascists about are the very people that @Imperium fails to comprehend the motives of. If anyone was oppressing black communities, it would not be the right or law enforcers, it would be a left wing base that African Americans routinely lend their support at large that does nothing for them in return, except help them dig an even deeper hole than they were in before.

Side: crazy
jeffreyone(1383) Clarified
1 point

Ok so paddock killed 39 instantly and over 500 injured and we were safely advised not to affiliate it to his colour. Fine. (He sets the record for 2017)

And here you are with statistics of how criminal , homocide psychopathic black skin possessors can be?

Where is the statistics for black indians??

you don't have it do you?

So are you researching on entire personality or specifically colour?

I'm confused.

Side: crazy
excon(18260) Disputed
1 point

black community composes roughly 12.3% of this, one would expect to see roughly proportional incarceration rates statistically. However, this is not the case. In 2014 alone, blacks constituted 34% if the US correctional facility attendees. Black individuals are imprisoned at a rate five times higher than that of white individuals,

Hello I:

You could look at those numbers and conclude that black people are BIGGER law violators than white people... OR, you could conclude that the American Justice System is racist..

You made one choice, while I choose the other.

excon

Side: some bad excuse
1 point

I’m seeing a lot of big numbers here, but nothing to indicate “record highs”. When it say “highest since 2009”, that just sounds like statistical ebb and flow.

Side: crazy
1 point

Hello bront:

DUDE! It IS crazy.. Black people ARE oppressed AND other things happen..

What? Ohhh, I get it.. You think black people are the ones killing cops, so clearly, they CAN'T be oppressed..

DUDE!

excon

Side: crazy

Police sign up knowing the risk of being killed or assaulted. It's their job and they get paid to do it.

How exactly does policing being dangerous prove that blacks are not being oppressed?

Side: some bad excuse
Eloy(190) Clarified
1 point

I do not understand the choice of 'crazy/some bad excuse' choices in this debate. What is 'crazy'? What is 'some bad excuse'? Police are assaulted. Yes. Blacks are oppressed. Yes. What is the debate?

Side: crazy
Amarel(5669) Clarified
1 point

You’re right that the issues are disconnected, and can both be true. He obviously believes the latter is not true. I posted a debate to get more at the issue.

Side: crazy