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You can live and defy God You can only die defying God.
Debate Score:58
Arguments:53
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You can live and defy God

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You can only die defying God.

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That video contained 1 fact. Literally one fact. Fiorina did say people of faith make better leaders. Other than that it was all lies. Atheists do have morality. Atheists aren't responsible for abortions. Atheists make better citizens since they are more educated and commit fewer crimes. Muslims are people of faith (the wrong faith, but they still have faith). Muslims are not satan worshipers. The guy who was fired at HP did not post pro family posters, he posted anti gay posters. This guy is a complete liar, which is a sin. Therefore he defies God, and people like you think he can live.

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I don't know what response you expect from this. He makes these videos for people who already hold those beliefs, he isn't arguing with atheists. Alright, I'll just grab the most outrageous quote from there.

"Atheists should be banned from holding public office."

He believes that atheist have no morals, other than they're own person "evil" agenda and can't be trusted to be any kind of leader. Well sir, this is direct violation of the constitution.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ArticleSixoftheUnitedStatesConstitution

Your argument is invalid.

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Jacobcoolguy(2428) Clarified Banned
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"Atheists should be banned from holding public office."

Actually it's "Atheists should be banned from any position of leadership."

I don't like editing posts, so I'll just do this.

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Well,I've defied God many times,I'm still alive? And don't give me that "You'll be dead soon" crap because we all will! Calling that prophecy is as dumb as getting a papercut and praying to God that it heals- then using the scar to prove God exists.

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Ahahaha, how to win a debate 101:

Ban everyone who disagrees with you. I see you're going for the Iosif Vissarionovich Dzhugashvili approach :)

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Atheist do not make good leaders, because the further they are away or removed from Christian influence the more selfish their judgement becomes.

The more selfish they are the more selfish they consider others to be like them, the more policies become for the greatness of one, and the more benefit to all and the golden rule is absent in policy. It creates a city divided against itself. It's opposite of Christian values America was established on, regardless of our "sins" America has done great things so don't bother trying to highlight it's sins!

As far as validity of Christian Faith :

Evidence when viewed goes beyond reasonable doubt!

Here is some evidence that supports an affirmative verdict regarding many Biblical facts, including the Resurection:

1 - The Prophetic Words, and the Biblical Directions of Prophesy, and the Plan, the ultimate bottom line action and goals of Biblical content and Prophesy.

2 - Because Biblical History is credible it is a source in support of evidence.

3 - Because Biblical Prophesy is credible in its fulfillments it is an even greater source in support of evidence, especially since prophesy is layered, with many separate prophesies having to also come true for one to come true! - Even greater than knitting cells together in evolution!

4 - Because eye witness testimony, even outside of the Bible, other documents, Greek and Roman secular offer details confirming the dynamics of Christianity and Persecutions and Martyrdom.

5 - The accounts are not contradictions, (as though any were lying) the various times and places of writings actually are a confirmation of reliability, people who lie have fuzzy memories in a week, even with practice and easy communications of our day, lies unravel because even the untrained eye can pick out lies, but that's not the case with the four gospels, they confirm accidentally each other's facts, that show true eyewitness independent works, with different perspectives of the same exact event, as you know since you "read the book" the private investigated discusses this.

6 - The degree of insistence on the testimonies of Christians, and it's growth beyond their group, location, and generation. In comparison Muslims were militant from the start, attracting like violent individuals. It would not have the same magnet effect as peaceful Christians fed to lions. One would excell in dominance, like cell selection, the other would be eliminated as passive cells are dominated.

7 - The Prophetic Words spoken of concerning the rejection by its "mother religion" and the Prophetic Words stating as Messiah would be rejected, All Nations would hear an exclusive religion, rejected by its originator and accepted world wide!

8 - 300 prophesies fulfilled in just the one person Jesus

9 - Martyrdom, the ferverency and dedication, they most all went courageously against horrible opposition, and most ultimately died for it. And not in a group drinking poison like Jim Jones, Christians often died or were imprisoned alone and often died gruesome deaths

10 - Paul a Jew of Jews, happily killing Christians saw what must have been a hologram! Jesus the Risen Lord knocked him off a horse and blinded him, then sent him to talk to his disciples.

Picture this; Saul/Paul had just led a crowd in Stephen's stoning, Saul was unmoved by it, it was something he was gladly a part of. All the Christians knew of Saul, and he scared of them, they feared for their lives.

Jesus knocks Saul off of a horse, and disarms him by making him temporarily blind. Probably so the Christians wouldn't fear him when he pulled up on his horse. Jesus made him disabled in killing them, so he couldn't harm them.

Jesus sends Saul to get disciples that just saw him murder their friend and brother, Stephen! Now he is there to be saved, healed and filled with the Spirit.

Paul goes on to lead the way like a work horse bringing the message of Jesus the Risen Christ to the Gentiles. Saul Jew of Jews - takes on a new name, born again, and brought the gospel out to the Gentiles.

So these are 10 pieces of evidence I have and consider as evidence "beyond a reasonable doubt"

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Cartman(18192) Disputed Banned
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Atheist do not make good leaders, because the further they are away or removed from Christian influence the more selfish their judgement becomes.

Why are Christians more selfish then?

The more selfish they are the more selfish they consider others to be like them, the more policies become for the greatness of one, and the more benefit to all and the golden rule is absent in policy.

This is only seen with religious people making policy.

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KNHav(1957) Disputed
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I don't think that's true can you show me week long summer camps run by volunteer groups of atheists?

How about prison ministries to prisoners and to their children?

How about groups of volunteers housing women in crisis and in pregnancy crisis, are there alot of atheists opening their homes and caring for them?

How about groups of atheists volunteering to help broken families or people broken with broken lives by addictions, abuse, neglect, alcohol etc and not just through AA, But people who have never abused drugs, that give their time and resources to mentor and lift others in every situation

So now put involved atheists on one side and Christians on the other.

So please tell me the basis of your ridiculous statement.

Atheist are only as good as the strongest influence of Christianity whether it be family or community, the further from that we get, the less palatable our society gets.

Open your eyes blind one

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Saintnow(3684) Disputed
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Why do you always sound so retarded? It's like your brain shuts down and all you say is "no", "false", wrong, you got it backwards". I wonder how old you are, and I wonder what happened to you ...you and Atfag seem like the two most miserable people here.

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Saintnow(3684) Disputed
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You sound like a homosexual, either a sodomite or a woman who abuses herself with other women.

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This guy is just a talking head for the Tea Party, and if you want to see something funny here is a cat fight another conservative had with him - complete with hypocrisy revealed.

http://www.thenationalpatriot.com/2016/05/31/a-hollow-hypocrite-exposed/

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Saintnow(3684) Clarified
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Whoever compiled that website whines as much as you do....and they sound like they have homos in their closet, the same way you seem to have the pedophile condoning Dawkins in your closet.

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cownbueno(407) Disputed Banned
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You shouldn't be allowed on the internet.

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Saintnow(3684) Disputed
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Atrag(5666) Disputed Banned
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You can't believe anything he says, calling himself a patriot while supporting homosexual marriage is an oxymoron.

I would say that is the most stupid thing you have ever said but you have said a lot of incredibly stupid things.. but still.. a very stupid comment.

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1 point

Bill's funny. Atheists will hate him ;

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Bill's funny. Atheists will hate him ;

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Atrag(5666) Banned
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This guy sounds like Jesus Christ himself. I feel overwhelmed with his love!!!

Come on sing with me!!

"All things bright and beautiful,

All creatures great and small,

All things wise and wonderful:

The Lord God made them all."

Yeah!!!

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Saintnow(3684) Disputed
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You sound like a homosexual, either a sodomite or a woman who abuses herself with other women.

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Saintnow(3684) Disputed
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why don't you do a little research and see if our founding fathers would in the slightest entertained the thought of homosexual marriage. It goes against the foundation of society, nobody who supports it is a conservative, a patriot, and in the highly unlikely possibility that they are a real born again Christian, they certainly are in for serious chastisement from their heavenly Father.

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cownbueno(407) Disputed Banned
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Exactly how does two men/women wanting to be with and love each other negatively affect you in your daily life?

Do crosses in your home catch fire when a gay marriage is occurring in the area?

Is it tradition in a gay marriage that after the vows are said that they go to Christians' homes and egg them?

Or is it your belief that if a certain number of people in the world are happy with their lives that you might not be happy with your own?

The fact that you get so much dissatisfaction from something such as two people being happy and enjoying each other's company disgusts me. Or maybe you're just some oddball sadist who derives pleasure knowing that other's can be as unhappy and miserable as yourself.

People like you will, and deserve to die alone.

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Saintnow(3684) Clarified
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I thought you would have conjured up Patty Polluted or Stupid Fat Moron to speak for you after I banned you for being a bad monkey. You know I"m gonna put you in your cage for this show.

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