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They will make your life miserable, you're making a mistake.......you probably already have them on you......they want to destroy you, only God keeps them from tearing you to pieces and they will tear you to pieces as soon as they can.
I am pretty much an expert on Demonology. I have encountered them and had them chase me and my old band members when we would do songs about them. which they didn't like since it alerted Christians as to how they work.
Sadly, God can do nothing about Demons. Or Satan. They are beyond His control. This is one reason why God is NOT omnipotent. It has to do with an agreement He and Satan made before Satan left Heaven and created His own World, which we call Hell. Or Hades. Part of the Agreement was that God controls his Souls in the Afterlife, and of course in Heaven, but Satan has his run down here on Earth.
why do you think there is so much Evil? Or that those Christians who think God is Omnipotent cannot explain Evil?
Demons WILL make your life miserable. Sometimes. But also often times they make it very enjoyable and hedonistic. This is how they entice you to do their bidding. I am sorry to tell you that God doesn't always win in the Battle for Souls. Satan wins a lot, my angry friend. I don't like it any more than you but that's the way it works. Trust me on this. I have been in the embrace of BOTH Satan and God.
Wow, first I see you denounced the Lord's resurrection, now you say God is not omnipotent. I think you have devils guiding you now. No wonder you hate me so much, they have you.
You also stated Satan left Heaven and created his own world...capitalizing "His" in reference to Satan, showing respect for Satan than only God deserves. The more I read of your stuff, the more I think you are possessed and it was not the Holy Spirit who stopped you from killing yourself and made you feel born again, it's a spirit from Hell using you to promote lies from Hell.
Satan did not leave Heaven willingly, he is expelled violently as he is violently in rebellion against God. Satan did not create his own world, God created Hell for the devil and his angels.
I really think you are possessed now. You talk like a devil, and are playing a game trying to lead others in your lies from Hell......you don't know what you are talking about and you don't know what you are doing, those demons are going to get you going in sin and you're going to fall hard. You need help, son.
Ahhh...poor Saint. I never pegged you as the naive type but from your version of the whole God v Satan battle and splitup, I think you are. Naive that is. You know about all that stuff exactly what your heavily edited Bible and the early Catholic Church have rammed down your gullet.
It's the wrong version. Sorry to be the bearer of what to you must be bad news.
I love God and despise, but respect and fear Satan. As should you. But the facts are far different than what you have been sold.
You can keep your devils and fear Satan all you want, what are you, a witch? Satan worshipper? wouldn't surprise me at all, I'm aware of Satan worshippers and witches who pretend to be Christians. I don't fear Satan or his demons and I don't fear you. I fear God. You're letting demons guide you and obviously by your own words you are not saved, you're a fake.
So according to your doctrine and opinion of me and my Theology, anybody who believes in Evolution is a Demon, huh?
well I think you need to be reminded that many great mean of God, priests, theologians, Christians from the past were also scientists.
Gregor Mendel. Ever heard of him? I doubt it. A Monk! who basically discovered genetics and was a botanist.
Pierre Tielhard de Chardin was an Anthropologist.
Most of the early scientists in Europe up till the 19th cnetury were Believers in God and there work was in fact funded by their Church.
You mistake having an education and NOT being bound to the letter of an old collection of Hebrew myths (what you call your bible) as being Evil. This is sad for it displays your ignorance.
I love God as much as anybody. He saved my life. A life I have devoted to Him. I begin Seminary in the Fall. I try to live my life based on the teachings of Jesus of Nazareth. I have confessed my sins, I do so every day.
But I also think that since God IS Science that there is nothinbg wrong with embracing it and knowing it is only his Handiwork.
You think the facts are different than the word of God because you have demons pushing your buttons and guiding you. You go against God's word and are not a Christian. Maybe you can fool some of the people on here and make them think you are a Christian, but you deny the resurrection of Christ so there is no way you can be a Christian no matter what you say. More and more I'm thinking you are a Satanist, they are not uncommon among so-called Christian rock bands ad your music is obviously demonic.
I've dealt with demons before......no devil scares me and you're just letting them use you and push you around. The more you talk, the more I think you are possessed.
So according to your doctrine and opinion of me and my Theology, anybody who believes in Evolution is a Demon, huh?
well I think you need to be reminded that many great mean of God, priests, theologians, Christians from the past were also scientists.
Gregor Mendel. Ever heard of him? I doubt it. A Monk! who basically discovered genetics and was a botanist.
Pierre Tielhard de Chardin was an Anthropologist.
Most of the early scientists in Europe up till the 19th cnetury were Believers in God and there work was in fact funded by their Church.
You mistake having an education and NOT being bound to the letter of an old collection of Hebrew myths (what you call your bible) as being Evil. This is sad for it displays your ignorance.
I love God as much as anybody. He saved my life. A life I have devoted to Him. I begin Seminary in the Fall. I try to live my life based on the teachings of Jesus of Nazareth. I have confessed my sins, I do so every day.
But I also think that since God IS Science that there is nothinbg wrong with embracing it and knowing it is only his Handiwork.
You're an expert on demonology like a witch is an expert on demonology. That's a devil talking out of you teaching doctrines of demons from Hell when you say things like "God is not omnipotent".......in any way or over any thing including Satan who you are specifically talking about when you say God is not always omnipotent.....and then you say the resurrection of Jesus Christ is a myth and you like Him to a zombie in a zombie story. You cannot be a Christian, you cannot be saved, you cannot be born again, you do not have the Holy Spirit in you, you are dead in your sins as long as you say Jesus Christ's bodily resurrection is a myth.
You are not a Christian at all. I don't know what seminary you plan on attending, but if you'll have to do some serious lying to get in if that seminary is ran by real Christians.....and by the way you talk, it's probably a fake Christian seminary just like you are a fake Christian.
So according to your doctrine and opinion of me and my Theology, anybody who believes in Evolution is a Demon, huh?
well I think you need to be reminded that many great mean of God, priests, theologians, Christians from the past were also scientists.
Gregor Mendel. Ever heard of him? I doubt it. A Monk! who basically discovered genetics and was a botanist.
Pierre Tielhard de Chardin was an Anthropologist.
Most of the early scientists in Europe up till the 19th cnetury were Believers in God and there work was in fact funded by their Church.
You mistake having an education and NOT being bound to the letter of an old collection of Hebrew myths (what you call your bible) as being Evil. This is sad for it displays your ignorance.
I love God as much as anybody. He saved my life. A life I have devoted to Him. I begin Seminary in the Fall. I try to live my life based on the teachings of Jesus of Nazareth. I have confessed my sins, I do so every day.
But I also think that since God IS Science that there is nothinbg wrong with embracing it and knowing it is only his Handiwork.
Oh the Seminary is very real and very Christian. I will even give you a link for it here. Please check if out and tell me what you think.
I will not lie to them at all. I already was interviewed and was accepted and they love me. They said I was just the type of progressive and thought provoking candidate they are looking for. Their words.
Once I am a Unity minister my REAL work can begin. I can serve my Father and carry out His Plan.
Unity.......I don't even need to look, spiritualist, spiritism....demonic. I know a guy who was deep into that "Unity". I saw a lot of the books he studied for his phony ordination, what a whackjob that guy is.......watches homosexual porn, and says "just because I did sex acts with one man does not mean I'm a homosexual".........and what a joke how people in leadership in that organization fight for power and control of the money.....go for it, I'm sure they will buy your music.
No, you don't have to lie to the Unity church. They are all liars like you, not Christian at all....it's Satanism. The people who are higher up know it's Satanism, you are an initiate and may or may not be invited into deeper levels where they will admit they are Satan worshippers. Your going to get your life pulled apart if not your body. Go for it if you feel you must, but you are making a big mistake.
Okay, to be clear we're talking the possession, strange bodily contortion and projectile vomiting type of demon associated with christian theology? or are we talking like a Shen mischievous or such spirit demon of eastern philosophies?
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Not waiting for an answer. if you're looking for Satan esque demons you realize surely that one of the tenants of satanism is what comes to mean "Harass, Belittle and Torture anyone who is in your domain and you don't want them there" and your body will now be their domain. and you won't be wanted there. so you'll be harassed, Belittled and Tortured by the demon you left the door open for?
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If you're looking for a cute little Calcifer to drive your moving castle there Howle, then all you have to do is catch a falling star next time there's a meteor shower and tell the dying demon that he can have your heart so that you both might live.
Position two mirrors facing each other making a seemingly infinity of images. However, there will be an end to this apparent sempiternity of reflections and if you look long and intensely you will see Lucifer, 'the Beast' staring back at you. Pray to him to take your soul whereupon you will be possessed by one of his demonic disciples. Be prepared for the endless, indescribable horrors which await you. Remember, there is no coming back.
Some have done what you suggest and have been saved, came out of it, were delivered and set free. Most will be destroyed. You will have a price to pay for suggesting people do what you are saying.
I heard that not all of them are out to kill you. I also heard that saying "Say (X1):Satan my farther, devil my brother, fallen angel my sister." many times help. I also heard that it is 1 month of pain !
They are all liars. The only time you will find them being true is when they are literally doing everything they can to tear you to pieces. You'll see if you want to find out the hard way, but it may take you into Hell's fire for eternal torment because you really are asking for it and God just might let you have it at any moment. I'm tempted to say you are being an idiot, but that should be obvious and you should stop being an idiot so I won't say it. Let's just say you are making a terrible mistake and going to pay the consequences more and more if you continue with what you are asking for.
The name Lucifer means The Light Bringer. Or Light Bearer. Not the beast.
And that whole 666 thing is bullshit too. Used to even be a different number!
And even the light bearer stuff stems from a mistranslation from the Septaguint. The original writer of that term was referring to a past King. Not Satan.
FUNNY...IT SEEMS MOST PEOPLE KNOW MORE WRONG STUFF ABOUT SATAN THAN CORRECT FACTS. I was in his grasp for so long before God saved me that I got to know him and his minilns far better than k would have liked. Or care to admit.
Lucifer, in traditional Christianity, means 'leader of the devils. Lucifer was an Angel who was cast from heaven because he rebelled against God. The name Lucifer, which literally means 'morning light' refers his former splendor as the greatest of Angels. Now, you broken down shithead plagiarist, why don't you go and copy another quote from Google, (as I did) and print it as your own work.
GOD / SATAN AND ANGELS . . . . Someone has said that the most important thing about you is what comes to your mind when you think about God . . . It’s true .. What you believe about God has serious .. long-term impact on how you live .. every thought .. word .. action .. and attitude is ultimately a reflection of your beliefs .. right or wrong .. about God and His character . . With so much at stake .. there’s really no more important pursuit than sorting out reality from myth and knowing God for who He really is . . . John MacArthur takes you to the Bible for an accurate .. in-depth portrait of God Himself .. as well as the other powerful inhabitants of the supernatural realm .. Satan / demons .. and God’s invisible army of holy angels
That guy sounds to me like he's possessed....look at what he's saying, denounce the Lord's resurrection comparing the Lord to a zombie and the stories of His resurrection as nothing but fabricated zombie tales, says God is not omnipotent and Satan has bargaining power with God, says Satan created Hell.....
This guy is possessed.....he's an interloper, toying with demons and they have taken over this guy.
You shouldnt joke about demons since they are quite real. I have seen them.
Wanting to be possesed only means to me that you are joking or that you have no idea that they are real, and no clue aobut what they really are. Yous sound likke a little kid asking mommy if he can go to the zoo.
Evil is real in this world. It is not just the deeds men do, it is a viable and tangible entity. Emanating from Satan, who also is quite real.
Demons won't posses you if you want them too. That ain't how it works. Because doing what somebody wants to happen to them is to please that person, and that is the opposite of what Demons want. They are far more likely to come at somebody who is seeking God. Or to be Saved.
True Christians who pray and go to church and believe in God know this. We know that often times a feeling of the thought of doing an evil deed comes on us exactly right after prayer! Or talking with God. Or leaving our Churches.
Why do you think this is?
When I was in my Christian band Demon Hunter we wrote some songs about Demons and what they do. The Demons did not like this, since it was a sort of heads up to people. We had some weird stuff happen to us with no rational explanations. I am pretty much an expert in Demonology. But I hope it serves me well in serving the Lord.
you should listen to more of our stuff, Saint.we have some songs on youtube. we were not demonic, we praised Christianity. please listen to the lyrics better.
we did have Demons chasing us, however. I saw one rape a groupie in one of our motel rooms. one demon mad our old drummer wreck his motorcycle after the guy wrote a song on how to spot and defeat a demon. (a trick I still know and use to this day!)
the demons didn't like us for alerting people to their presence and tot he fact that their Master, Satan, is not a myth and is alive and well.
Heard enough of your stuff, seen enough of your comments to know you are demon inspired and demon led promoting doctrines of demons from Hell.........you are a Satanist, not a Christian. Your father the devil is a liar and he's schooling you in being a liar.
Proof the "Demon Hunter" is not Christian but is demon inspired....
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I never thought of the Jesus Christ angle, I admit. And I'm a Christian too! interesting choice.
He did supposably walk around and show himself to some people after rising from the dead so I guess in that respect he fits the zombie criteria. but I never really believed those stories. I just can't see my Lord and Savior offering his flank to a doubter and saying "hey see here, I really was pierced for your transgressions. stick your hand in my wound and see!"
Proof the "Demon Hunter" is not Christian but is demon inspired....
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I never thought of the Jesus Christ angle, I admit. And I'm a Christian too! interesting choice.
He did supposably walk around and show himself to some people after rising from the dead so I guess in that respect he fits the zombie criteria. but I never really believed those stories. I just can't see my Lord and Savior offering his flank to a doubter and saying "hey see here, I really was pierced for your transgressions. stick your hand in my wound and see!"
I really do want to let a demon into my heart ! I looked it up and came up with this "Say (X1):Satan my farther, devil my brother, fallen angel my sister."
