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Debate Score:12
Arguments:7
Total Votes:13
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Designer Babies

there is an up coming issue that needs debating, the topic of Designer Babies, should we or should we not. Designer babies are genetically modified babies that undergo biotechnology to change the genes in a living embryo.
so the question is, should we do this and if so. WHY? or should we not and if so WHY? 

why we should do this

Side Score: 5
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Why we should not do this

Side Score: 7
1 point

Link: http://www.futureforall.org/bioengineering/designer-babies.html

Reduces risk of genetic diseases

Reduces risk of inherited medical conditions

Keep pace with others doing it

Better chance the child will succeed in life

Better understanding of genetics

Increased life span

Can give a child genes that the parents do not carry

Prevent next generation of family from getting characteristics/diseases

Side: why we should do this
SatintLater(283) Disputed
1 point

--Reduces risk of genetic diseases

Reduces risk of inherited medical conditions

those two issues are virtually the same thing. but this is almost the same as genotherapy for adults, just done as an infant....so it's more just approving the procedure and giving the ethical thumbs up for it... so... not really an argument TO allow for designer babies, as these are purposely targeted genetic treatments.

-Keep pace with others doing it

So make sure when North Korea has super soldiers we do too?

Not really a convincing argument. just because others are doing it, doesn't mean we have need or ethics that support such a project.

-Better chance the child will succeed in life

False. Genetics RARELY play into who succeeds or fails. if you believe it does, You're a racist. :P Environment depicts how close to their full potential the person in question becomes, genetics set where the full potential is.

-Better understanding of genetics

So... Get animal test subjects, you rarely NEED human trials for genetic experiements... So I'm gonna call bullshit.

-Increased lifespan

Again... no reason we can't necessarily do this as adult genotherapy.

-Can give a child genes that the parents do not carry

So I can have a white son?.... this is not a fully explained why it's a good thing.

-Prevent next generation of family from getting characteristics/diseases

See point 1.

Side: Why we should not do this

We should totally do it because it increases quality of life and cuts down medical costs. BUT FIRST we gotta kill off some of the weak minded people so the Ubermunchen will have more room to spread out and live a smooth life.

Side: why we should do this
2 points

Link: http://www.futureforall.org/bioengineering/designer-babies.html

Termination of embryos

Could create a gap in society

Possibility of damage to the gene pool

Baby has no choice in the matter

Genes often have more than one use

Geneticists are not perfect

Loss of Individuality

Other children in family could be affected by parent's decision

Only the rich can afford it

Side: Why we should not do this
SatintLater(283) Disputed
1 point

-Termination of embryos

You're suggesting what exactly? that abortions wouldn't happen with designer babies?

Unlikely.

- Gap in society?

like Gattaca? Genes alone do not create the elite. parental investment is important, as well as the specific environment. if you believe that STRICTLY genes are in play as to who the elite are, then you're probably a racist :P Furthermore, how does this gap really change anything that isn't already happening.

-Baby has no choice in the matter

Then abortion should be Illegal as well. and LOOK AT HOW WELL THAT ARGUMENT WORKS with all the fucktards out there.

-Genes often have more than one use

My knowledge of genetics is telling me you're confusing genes and Alleles....So.....What? I mean, the first Trait that I'd edit out of myself if at all possible would be the carrier gene for pyloric stenosis. and just about nothing else. if the allele can be changed to match a non carrier for my disorder without effecting the whole Chromosone, then Whoopde-fucking-dee. if the whole chromosome has to be swapped, then the technology sucks and needs to be upgraded.

- Gene pool damage

It's assumed that some parents would opt out of a designer baby program. meaning that should we all genetically augment ourselves and somehow accidentally program out our ability to fight off the common cold, the normal un-augmented individuals would survive. same with something like low genetic diversity, assuming the Augs all start running the same genetic code.

-Geneticists aren't perfect

And neither are planes/Aerospace engineers. yet thousands of people use planes.

-Loss of individuality

Bullshit. Twins are still different people. Environment shapes people almost as much if not more than genetic factors. all genetic modification does is boost an individual's potential. it does not inherently make them smart.

- Other children in family could be affected by parent's decision

So.... What? That's the parent's decision.

Side: why we should do this
1 point

We should not do this because there is nothing wrong with the young niggas with these diseases so what they have a few disabilities that just make them stronger on the streets they the hardest niggas on the block i swear nigga like on blood.

Side: Why we should not do this
1 point

I think we should not do this! In my society where boys are favored than girls! Design babies may increase gender inequality in some societies like Vietnam, China or some Asian countries!

First and foremost, we can choose gender in genetic engineering by parents favors! In such societies, people will or may choose boys rather than girls! This creates imbalance in Gender ratio!

Secondly, people who went through Babies Design are more likely smarter, good looking and more talented as they are created on purpose! These people may be favored by the companies in employments than ordinary people as they possess better qualities! This may create discrimination against ordinary people and hatred for Design people! We have faced many Discrimination already! Therefore, it may not necessary be good with Babies Design although it is truly help us to prevent majored diseases!

Thirdly, by religious mean, we should not mess up with human body and we should not try to play god!

These are my arguments to against Design Babies!

Side: Why we should not do this