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Christians to Jesus Devil Monkeys to Hell
Debate Score:21
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Devil Monkey's VS Christians

Well, friends who hate me and friends who don't hate me, I think I've summed it up pretty well in the title.  None of y'all are banned yet and I don't have time to post the picturesque descriptions of God's offer of pardon to set the devil monkey's free so rant on for a while.  I'll do my best to ignore your initial comments since I expect a lot of profanity and insults from weak minds trying to express themselves forcefully.  When I get back, I'll post  a few illustrations showing how funny monkeys can be, and how sad it is that devil monkeys feel better as children of Hell when they could be free children of God.

(For the record:  I understand that evolutionists believe we are primates and not just monkeys.  What's the difference?; an animal is an animal.  Would you feel better if I called anti-Christians "devil primates"?  Such pompous terminology dictated by evolution is too dead and dry for me.  Can't we have some fun being monkeys?  Monkeys are a lot more fun than "primates".

Christians to Jesus

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Devil Monkeys to Hell

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4 points

I don't hate anyone either. But this is a debate website, isn't it? You state your mind and then I'll state mine and away we go.

Christians or any religious folk can believe whatever they want to believe. I'm not telling you you can't teach it in your churches. I'm not demanding equal time for evolution at your Sunday school. In reverse, however, you are assaulting evolutionary theory being taught in public high school science classes, and you are trying to add creationism to those same classes. I disagree with that. Teach religion in church. Teach science in school. If your message is so powerful and persuasive then it should be sufficient for you to teach it in church.

Personally, I summarily reject literal interpretation of the Bible. We have not been on this earth for merely a few thousand years. And we can indeed see changes in species and subspecies on this earth reflected over time in fossil records.

Equating my views with the devil and monkeys and threatening me with hell does not scare or persuade me and more than if I warned you were turning a generation of kids into idiots whom natural selection may disadvantage.

Side: Devil Monkeys to Hell
NowASaint(1380) Disputed
1 point

I'm not telling you that you can't express your opinion in your own house or in your own debates and discussions but I am telling you that your brother is on his way to Hell if he thinks being good and living right will earn God's mercy.

You are a devil monkey (since you believe you are just an animal but you act like a devil) on your way to Hell. Reject what the Bible says or accept it, does not change the fact that you are as good as dead, a sinner condemned and unclean, and on your way to Hell.

Evolution does not belong in public school science classes. It is a religious belief system and has no place in education except MAYBE in philosophy or religion classes for comparisons of it's philosophical and religious implications.

Teaching creation does not belong in science class either. The reason devil monkeys like you feel you need to shove evolution down everybody's throats using force of public schools is that you know that nature at every level and in any true scientific investigation or endeavor indicates the handiwork of the creator. This fact does not need to be discussed in any kind of science classes, and no science requires belief in evolution. Fascist punks like you simply want to control the public education system to force your religious beliefs down the throats of children and young adults. And why do you do this? Simple....it's because you conduct yourself according to your lusts and the only way you can justify yourself is to tell yourself you are an animal and tell others they are the same as you and you are all excused of your sin by being animals. Have another glass of wine, devil monkey.

Side: Christians to Jesus
NowASaint(1380) Disputed
1 point

I'm not threatening you with anything, I do not hold Hell in my hand to throw it at you like a rock. Your head is too hard anyways, being hit with Hell like a rock between your eyes wouldn't do you any good, only knock you out and put you in the fire.

Your views are equal to calling yourself a monkey, and by your attitude against God you are like a devil. It is according to your own words that you are a devil monkey.

Go cry a river about being banned. Talk to Funmun, he whines like you about being banned.

Side: Christians to Jesus
KNHav(1957) Disputed
1 point

Fyi- The Bible can be proven.

No one is asking for religion in school.

The problem is when the public square domunates the public space, and not sharing it.

No one wants religion taught, because we have different belifs.

But having religion present everywhere as a possibility is important.

We have effectively created an antireligious attitude in America that will kill American freedom eventually. Because it is a snowball.

Having the option of creation neither discouraged or encouraged. But maybe review some basic principle of creation. Now a days there are very solid scientific creation theories that explain creation confirming science of what is written as a possible historical account.

Someone not "believing" it is a historical account doesnt make their belief a final religious we must endure.

And uliltimately one is breeding atheism as a state affirmed indoctrination, and destroying freedom friom within.

They have remove freedom of thought. A nation of kids have ben indoctrinated against even reasoning about even musing over the wondrous coincidences that indicate divine signature.

Side: Christians to Jesus
Cartman(18192) Disputed Banned
1 point

You claim no one is asking for religion in school then you go on to ask for religion in school. Nice.

Side: Devil Monkeys to Hell
KNHav(1957) Disputed
1 point

Uliltimately one is breeding atheism as a state affirmed indoctrination, and destroying freedom friom within.

They have remove freedom of thought. A nation of kids have been indoctrinated against even reasoning about even musing over the wondrous coincidences that indicate divine signature.

God included His mission Statements in, and for each Testament. And He even signed them both!

Its interesting how we start projects and declare “mission statements” for our work. God did also.

There are two well-known references to the creation in the Scripture: Genesis 1:1 and John 1:1.

Both Hebrew and Greek use letters as both letters and numbers. So if we read it by its numeric value in these two verses we can find pi and e to the 4th decimal.

And both are more precise than you would learn in math class! They are precise to advanced usage of both. Same exact formula, and to the same decimal point.

To see Hebrew or Greek letter chart go to link and click on the linked word “chart”

See more at Koinia House – Chuck Missler

Let’s look “underneath” the text of each of these.

Here it is in English

Genesis 1:1

“In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.”

Here are the letters in Hebrew: Masoretic Text

In Hebrew Genesis 1:1

בְּרֵאשִׁית בָּרָא אֱלֹהִים אֵת הַשָּׁמַיִם וְאֵת הָאָֽרֶץ׃

If you examine the numerical values of each of the Hebrew letters, and the numerical value of the words (see chart), and apply them to this formula:

Number of Letters x Product of the Letters

÷

Number of Words x Product of the Words

You get 3.1416 x 1017. The value of π to four decimal places!

John 1:1

“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.”

In Greek: John 1: 1

ἐν ἀρχῇ ἦν ὁ λόγος καὶ ὁ λόγος ἦν πρὸς τὸν θεόν καὶ θεὸς ἦν ὁ λόγος

This time if you take the numerical value of each of the Greek letters (see chart), and the numerical value of the words, and apply them to the same formula:

Number of Letters x Product of the Letters

÷

Number of Words x Product of the Words

You now get 2.7183 x 1040, the value of “e” again to four decimal places!

Sitting at the top of two different books

And in the very first sentence of the books.

Each are written regarding in the beginning … and

Each are in two different periods of God moving through time.

Here is a thought, since both start with the words “in the beginning,”

The ONLY two books in the Bible to start with “in the beginning”

A thought, John’s era was influenced ever since the time of Daniel. This is when they began to write in Greek.

Conclusion, if the Jews were not taken captive by Babylon, then John’s book would have likely also been written in Hebrew just as the Old Testament.

If John was writing Hebrew, these similar words from these two books would not have “e” in the text. would in part have the verse in Genesis where “pi” is encoded.

The placement of “e” not only is a fun fact oddly found. It tells in context, of God’s purpose and mission statement in the New Testament.

Even John writing in Greek indicates the mission statement God intended, extending beyond the Hebrew Nation.

The Bible many times foretold of turning God’s good news outward to the Gentiles, and also tells of God’s mission statement to add back in the Jews, after the time of the Gentiles are complete.

Much of what Jesus and the apostles said in laying the groundwork of the first church was based on growth rate of doubling, like in bearing interest.

Jesus also described the idea of exponential growth in at least one of His parables, and also in context of growth of His Kingdom, through bearing seed, and producing a tree after its kind, producing good fruit after good fruit.

Jesus told us the rate of doubling in the parable of the talents. Which was a lesson in “investing” which is a use of the advanced math we know of as “e,” rate of doubling… 2, 4, 8, 16 … Wall Street is built on it.

So “e” modern day advanced math is not only found in the

John 1: 1.

But also tells of rate of doubling in the exponential growth of faith in the commission to “every nation.”

Jesus uses the rate of doubling in parables to describe “e” in the context focus of the entire New Testament, which was based on His New Testament mission statement.

John was one of the first yields of initial investment from the Seed, and from there, fulfilled God’s mission statement for exponential growth of the Gospel from just one nation, out to every nation.

While also fulfilling God’s promise to Abraham. “The father of many nations.“

God promised Abraham that he would be father of MANY nations, in the amount of the sands of the sea…

Jesus, is the promised seed of redemption spoken of in the Garden at the fall, brought forth through generations from Abraham.

Isn’t “Seed” a term used for “initial investment?”

Coincidence or signature?

Side: Christians to Jesus
3 points

Hating requires way too much energy and negative emotion, it's a waste of time. Much like the others, I don't hate anyone on this site, it's pointless and self-harming. Each person is entitled to their own opinion and disagreeing doesn't equate to hating.

Calling people Devil Monkeys is pretty funny but ultimately the mean-spirited discussions and high and mighty, disdainful attitudes towards people who disagree....doesn't scare people into religion, it turns people away from it.

Side: Devil Monkeys to Hell
NowASaint(1380) Disputed
1 point

Sorry, I think you need to go see your coven and ask them if they can prevent the fire of Hell from causing you to fry like an eternal sausage. No witches allowed in my discussions.

Side: Christians to Jesus
NowASaint(1380) Disputed
1 point

i banned you? ......ok, good. Maybe you will realize that you are lost and need to be saved.

Side: Christians to Jesus
NowASaint(1380) Clarified
1 point

You hate the truth, witch, I hate evil. It is good to know God hates evil and will leave all who refuse to repent of their sin in the fire of Hell where their witchy ways won't annoy the living any more.

Side: Christians to Jesus
Atrag(5666) Banned
3 points

Worry about whether you are going to hell or not. Stop fantasizing about everyone around you burning like sausages. You live a life of hate. When are you going to repent for that? I guess never. Therefore you are going to hell. Soz idiot boy.

Side: Devil Monkeys to Hell
NowASaint(1380) Clarified
1 point

Hi there, devil monkey .

Side: Christians to Jesus
AlofRI(3294) Banned
2 points

I'm a "friend who does NOT hate you". I simply disagree with you ... strongly. I would feel terrible if I emitted as much hate as you, expounding on which of us should "go to hell", or which of us are "devil monkeys". Devil monkeys ... is that a hint that you are finally admitting that we "evolved"??

I don't "hate" you at all. I may not attend your funeral but I WOULD send a NICE letter saying that I approved of it. I mean, what are friends for! ;<) (Somewhat plagiarized) :<))

Side: Devil Monkeys to Hell
NowASaint(1380) Disputed
1 point

You claim you evolved and are nothing but an animal, similar to a monkey, a primate, or whatever you want to call yourself. Monkey is simple and fun, monkeys are cute and funny. So you're a monkey as an animal, and in intellect combined with attitude, you are a devil trying to dethrone God and replace Him with yourself....just like the devil.

The difference between you and monkeys is that you have powers of reason and imagination and emotions which equip you to communicate with God intelligibly. The difference between you and a devil is ........well, the way you are going against God, you are just like a devil bound for the devil's Hell.

So you want to think of yourself as nothing but an animal while you act like a devil......so you are a devil monkey and the only thing you really want to deny (as if denial can keep you safe) is the reality of the fire of Hell where, as Jesus said, the worm never dies and the fire is never quenched. I would say good luck with that, but you are making your own choice and luck has nothing to do with it.

Neither of us should go to Hell. No human being should go to Hell. There simply is no other place for you if you will not concede to God's right to rule over you and punish your sin. My sins are forgiven and I am going to Heaven, I know this. You could be forgiven and know it but you insist you don't want or need God's forgiveness so you wont' have it and you will end up in Hell by your own choice and I know this by your own words. Your own words testify against you, and your sins are pulling you down to Hell believe it or not. If I were you I would believe it and seek to secure God's mercy to be saved from Hell, but I'm not you and you can believe whatever you want to.

It really amazes me how so many are like you, proud and defiant toward God. Jesus said most would go their own way and few would trust Him to save them. I met Him on His terms, agreed with Him regarding my guilt and need of mercy, believed on Him in His resurrection and I know He forgave my sins, I know He paid for them with His innocent blood, I know He is alive, risen bodily from the dead and I know He is leading me through death into eternal life, I know Heaven is my home and I know that you can know for yourself all of these things but you keep insisting you don't need to know, don't want to know, or cannot know and as long as you go on that way YOU WILL NOT KNOW and you will be unforgiven and a child of Hell.

Side: Christians to Jesus
AlofRI(3294) Clarified Banned
1 point

Nasty...REEEEEEALLYYYYYYYYY NASTY! I'd be ashamed if I was that nasty to someone who thinks you COULD be a nice person ... if you didn't read the wrong books.

Side: Christians to Jesus
AlofRI(3294) Clarified Banned
1 point

Nasty...REEEEEEALLYYYYYYYYY NASTY! I'd be ashamed if I was that nasty to someone who thinks you COULD be a nice person ... if you didn't read the wrong books.

Side: Christians to Jesus

A devil monkey would totally obliterate a good samaritan Christian in a fight. The devil monkey has sharp claws and teeth right? drum roll

Side: Devil Monkeys to Hell
NowASaint(1380) Clarified
1 point

A devil monkey can only send a Christian to Heaven IF God allows the monkey to do it. Devil Monkeys are fighting against their own lives, against their own salvation.

And no, the Christian would not be obliterated. Nobody gets obliterated. You either spend eternity in Hell as a devil monkey/man or you spend eternity in Heaven as the man God intended you to be...forever free of sin, and no devil monkeys to bother you.

Side: Christians to Jesus
NowASaint(1380) Clarified
1 point

A devil monkey fighting with you would send you straight to Hell IF God decides you have had enough time under His mercy and there is no longer any point in keeping you out of Hell.

Side: Christians to Jesus