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Debate Score:62
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Did Letterman cross the line?

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Side Score: 41
4 points

Well, firstly, David Letterman isn't funny anyways.

Any who, what if that was your sister or daughter who was being used to boost low ratings for a biased bitter and not funny comedian?

I'm not just saying this because I am a fan of Sarah Palin. I think about this all the time.

The thing is, there's no line. Mean spirited comedy is everywhere.

There should be a line. You don't think so? Put yourself in Mr. Palin's shoes. Would you not want to choke Letterman to death if he was making sex jokes that involved your daughter?!?!?

What pisses me off is that David Letterman would never say that about a democrat. If you gotta make a living at somebody else's expense, fine. Why target the same group every damn time!?

And if a republican performer said something like that about a democrats daughter the world would come to an end.

He's probably just pissed because Conan O'Brien's show [which is actually funny and entertaining] is destroying his show.

Side: yes
4 points

Voted up for starting with, "Well, firstly, David Letterman isn't funny anyways," and saying, "Conan O'Brien's show [which is actually funny and entertaining] is destroying his show." The truth has been spoken.

Side: yes

Let me put it this way, if David the ass hole Letterman was a Conservative, you would never hear the end of it. It would be all over the news and they would grill him like there's no tomorrow. But, since he's an ass hole liberal, he gets a pass. Wow, I almost felt angry there for a second ;)

Side: yes
1 point

Absolutely he crossed the line. If he had stood there, to "your" face, and said that about "your" daughter, there would be a fight! I know it would mine.

There is no way to argue against the fact that an incredible double standard is being enforced in mainstream media in favor of the Liberal left.

Wonder what would have happened had he said that about President Barrack "my family is off limits" Obama's daughters?

Side: yes
6 points

I love that he said "knocked up," which is not "rape," and was refering to the daughter who is legally of age, and obviously sexually active...

And the father, who happens to be from the backwoods of Alaska, automatically assumes he talking about raping an underage family member.

wonder where his head is at...

that's really the funniest part of the whole thing.

But pc is out of control, he's a comedian, he wasn't advocating anything illegal, the Palins know this, they just want back in the spotlight.

Side: No
3 points

actually, what happened was the daughter Todd took to the Baseball game was his 14 year old daughter. So yes, Letterman technically talked about underage rape of a little girl.

Honest mistake? probably. But, I might as well photoshop a large black cock in Dave's mother's mouth and say "lol, see how funny it is?". and, it wouldn't even be the same because his mother's of legal age (if she's even alive).

But yeah, if i were Todd i'd be pretty pissed either way. He was attacking my daughter. but as a bystander, i laugh at their sorrow.

Side: No
3 points

You'd have a great point if it were Letterman's job to report facts. But it's not.

He's a comedian, not a reporter. If he (or anyone else) tells a joke and the details don't exactly match the situation they're referring to, it doesn't mean they're lazy or malicious, it means they were telling a joke.

For example:

At a recent U2 concert in Glasgow, Scotland, Bono asked the audience for total quiet.

Then, in the silence, he started to slowly clap his hands, once every few seconds. Holding the audience in total silence, he said into the microphone, “Every time I clap my hands, a child in Africa dies.”

From the front of the crowd a voice with a broad Scottish accent pierced the quiet …

“Well, fuckin stop doin it then, ya evil bastard!”

Honestly, it probably didn't happen. It's a joke. But what's the point of telling a joke if every detail has to contain verifiable events? As a matter of fact, taken literally, Bono is indiscriminately killing scores of Africans. We should all be outraged.

That said, Bristol Palin is a public figure who also happens to be an adult. So did he cross "the line"? If you ask me, no.

Side: No

Well, the fact that, not only is she not a virgin but, she had a baby means she can take a good pounding ;)

Side: No
3 points

Give me a break- I think the person who crossed the line was Mr. Palin, who tried to imply Letterman was saying something about the 14 year old daughter when obviously it was about the one who got pregnent and had a kid out of wed lock- was the joke in bad taste? That's subjective- but the Palin's are in the public eye, and they put their daughters up on stage for the world to see- and to make jokes about. I think all this publicity about a stupid joke just gives them more press- which is no doubt what the Palin family wants.

Side: No
2 points

Sarah Palin is fair game to every comedian out there. She did not waste a second making him look like a pervert...when she knew that he was taking about her slutty daughter Bristol.

Apples do not fall far from the tree.

Southern smiles and world peace,

Sharon

~The Baby Boomer Queen~

Side: No
Tugman(749) Disputed
2 points

Sarah Palin is fair game I agree, but why do you need to attack her daughter? Thousands of teenage girls get pregnant and Letterman does not make fun of them. Letterman is only doing it because he is a liberal and Palin is a conservative.

Side: yes
iamdavidh(4871) Disputed
3 points

Well, thousands of teenage girls don't have a mother who is against sex-ed, against condoms, and against pre-marital sex,

who is also governor of the state.

I realize you have trouble seeing hypocricy when it's your home team, but surely you have to see the humor in that situation...

Side: No
HGrey87(750) Disputed
2 points

No, he's doing it because he's a comedian and she's a public figure. You just think it's about politics because you're a conservative, and he's a liberal.

Basically, it's lazy comedy. You make a joke that would be funny either way, but to make it seem pertinent you tack on the name of a public figure. Who else can you tack on for an underage wedlock baby?

Side: No
2 points

although i think comedians should attack the best of the best, your reasoning would also suggest this:

Comedians can attack Obama's daughters just how they can attack Palin's daughter.

I, in fact, do make some pretty sick jokes about the Obama girls as well, but I just want you to know... that is what you are advocating.

Side: No
iamdavidh(4871) Disputed
3 points

Well, if anyone was saying that it was okay to make jokes about underage girls being raped... okay.

But again, as Letterman made clear, and whether it could have been interpreted wrong or not, the point of the joke was not "rape" or "underage"

it was "sex" and "of age"

While I realize that as soon as people accept this fact, the Palin's will once again be out of the spotlight, and so want to desperately hold on to the delusion that he was making an underage rape joke,

I think it's pretty clear from both his statement which followed only 3 hours after the complaint (not a day or days as Sara is claiming) and that anyone who has ever seen Letterman knows he has not made a joke about raping underage girls once for however many years he's been on tv, kind of all points to the situation you seem to be describing as a very different thing all together.

I would point out as well, that while Palin was dragging her children all over the country with her during the campaign, the Obama's purposefully kept their kids out of the spotlight until he was elected. I mean, if she didn't want her kids to be part of her pop-stardom, why take them with you?

That aside though, again, you are comparing a sexually active woman who is over the age of 18, and trying to say it's now okay to make the same joke about kids who I don't even think are 10 yet...

Side: yes
2 points

This is comedy, there is no line. Now, Letterman isn't funny, I'll give you that, but he did it as a comedian (which is why i feel sorry for him) so technically there is no line.

I mean, Nick Depalo hopes to make fun of Michelle Obama on air soon (he already does it in clubs) and he was saying that this is comedy, there is no line to cross.

Side: No

Absolutely not. Letterman is a consummate tongue in cheek comedian and everyone knows this. Even the backwoods Palin's must be aware but it's her golden opportunity to keep a good thing going as she always does when her name is mentioned anywhere. Perhaps the lady doth protest too much? Her reputation and background are hardly as pristine as she would love everyone to believe. Sarah Palin should really back up, back off and try and be the Governor of the great snow covered state of Alaska where she can shoot all the game she can eat or probably wouldn't dare eat. Trophies seem to be her middle name...or was it Pristine?

Side: No