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Did religion create morality?

They say athiests are immoral..?

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Religion did create morality but atheists also adhere to moral codes.

Side: Yes
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Because of the sub-heading you've given this debate, I'm not exactly sure what it is that we are debating. The original heading implies that you are asking whether religion created morality (in that, was it the driving force in our current set of morals today), where as the sub-heading seems to ask whether it's possible to be moral without being religious.

Either way, the answer seems to be related to whether our current moral set in driven by society or driven by religion. I feel that for years, society has been the main driving force is setting our societies morals. Many things which are considered immoral in the bible, koran, etc (such a homosexuality) have been superceeded by society stating that they are moral, and they are okay. This is forcing religion to follow societies lead.

In regards to whether you can be an atheist and be moral; of course you can. Infact, it could even be said that you are more moral, as your actions are goverened by you and you alone, not by your fear of how you will be judged after death.

Side: No
2 points

Many religious people seem to have a firm mindset that Religion is the basis for morality, and without it a person does not have morals.

If that were so, wouldn't athiests and agnostics be running around like wild animals doing whatever they want? Morals were most likely conceived for survival, to bring the species together in tribes and make life more orderly.

What do you guys think?

Side: No
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I agree with this. Morality formed as an ancient social convention to maintain order and peace. Without morality, the whole of humanity would amount to nothing more than apes, killing each other for food and humping each other for survival. The construction of religion helped foster and potentially improve morality over time, but to say that religion created morality is a falsehood.

13th century Islamic philosophers, while still religious, determined that morality could be obtained and recognized through logic and reason - those who didn't believe in Allah still possessed some degree of moral responsibility, even if it wasn't necessarily perfect according to Islamic standards. This brilliant summation of atheist morality applies to all settings - one does not need religion to be moral - one can logically determined what is right and what is wrong. Religion can help and often accelerates moral understanding, but it is not necessary.

Side: No
2 points

You have it backward. Morality created religion.

Side: No
2 points

Morality comes from our common sense, not some fairy tale called the bible. The general idea of "do unto others as you would have done unto you" also plays a role in our deciding of what is right and wrong.

Side: No
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No - the word 'moral' comes from the Latin "mos, moris", which means something between 'customs' and 'social duties'. Although mythology influenced the Roman code of conduct, the weight of meaning behind that word has more to do with the society than their religious beliefs. An interesting definition from this philosophy reference site is this: "A principle of conduct or procedure established to set standards of conforming behavior in respects to actions to maintain stability in a complex social system.". Huh. This possibly rather cynical definition implies it's a rule imposed by society, and when we consider the historical role of the Christian church in controlling peoples' behaviour, I see where the statement is coming from. So-called 'Morality Plays' developed from other religious theatre in medieval times to illustrate Christian ideas of right or wrong, which links religion and moral concepts strongly, so while I'd say 'morality' is primarily a social construct, it is one that's been strongly influenced by religious authorities. Nevertheless, religion didn't create it.

Side: No