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I can say that because I AM a Christian! Christians are not taught to behave in that way at all. Christians are taught to forgive and not judge another's belief system or anything else, let alone a stamp! Read the entire article and tell me they're not hanging they're hats on the Christian rack while trying to convince all of us that these stamps somehow interfere, negate or dilute our Christian beliefs surrounding Christmas! It's completely un-Christian to wheel this story in on the Christian Bandwagon when all the other things that were said about Muslims are hateful and political in nature. Christians do not hate!
What are you talking about Jake? I just answered the one where you thought that what I said to Joe was pretty mean...I have no idea what else you're referring to where I didn't read your post..I read all the posts
No, I'm not offended by the stamp. I'm offended by the people that target Christians and Patriots with this stuff. Well...., offended is too strong of a word. I really don't get offended by anything. Especially when I can use it as CD fodder ;)
Youre making a very broad and ignorant generalization. Any body is ENTITLED to be offended by anything they want. Its ignorant beliefs that cause the problems in the world
Are you comparing a stamp that is meant to commemorate a holiday to crucifying someone? Because if you are, there's a pretty fucking big difference. The problem with what the Christian in this example said, is that she equated Muslim with terrorist and forgot that we are a secular nation.
So yes technically she did have the "right" to be offended, just like I have the "right" to be offended if someone says they like peanuts, but it doesn't make any sense.
The question was "Do Christians have a right to be offended by this?" Who said anythig about acting on it?
Liberals???? How would you know which ones they are? Saying "Merry Christmas" has now fallen to the politically correct sector! It's bullshit, every last bit of it!
Actually Christmas is now recognized as a federal holiday, so it's no longer just religious, anyone can celebrate it. Also I think your confused, secularism doesn't mean "anti-religion", it means "no comment."
(also how many liberals do you actually know? I'm an atheist and I say merry Christmas)
Yes, but they don't have the right to do anything about. Be offended all you like, it doesn't mean shit. After all, there are stamps that commemorate christmas. Its not like the muslims are being given preferential treatment.
I read the article and your follow-up article from the Christian Science Monitor...It seems your little panties are in a bunch because of a Muslim Stamps...Oh, those bad, bad people who don't have militant views...let's lump them in there and make Islam all bad.
We live in a nation of various religious beliefs. While I may not care for someones choice it isnt up to me to decide for others. Too many people get up on their high horse and forget about others. It doesnt matter if I like your religion or if you like mine. All that matters is that if you believe in something you dont try to force it down peoples throats.
the point is that most people react to the debate instead of reading the attachment. if you read the attachment you find that there's nothing to get all worked up about.
"The EID stamp is an ordinary first-class postage stamp; all proceeds from its sale go to the USPS, not to any Muslim-related groups or organizations. Boycotting the EID stamp is a purely symbolic act with no financial impact on anyone."
"The USPS already issues stamps commemorating the Christian holiday of Christmas (with both religious and festive themes), the Jewish holiday of Hanukkah, as well as Kwanzaa."
"The EID stamp is often mischaracterized as a "Christmas stamp," but it has nothing to do with Christmas other than that it is part of a series of U.S. postage stamps commemorating several diverse celebrations, some of which generally occur around the November-December "holiday season" timeframe (e.g., Christmas, Hanukkah, Kwanzaa, Thanksgiving), some of which occur at other times of year (e.g., Cinco de Mayo), and some of which move around from year to year (e.g., Eid Al-Fitr and Eid Al-Adha). The statement "[Muslims] don't even believe in Christ and they're getting their own Christmas stamp!" is therefore nonsensical, akin to protesting Hanukkah stamps because "Jews don't even believe in Christ but they have their own Christmas stamp!""
I OPPOSE this one even more than the others...WHY? Because now you want it both ways...now you're trying to squirm out of your own argument about STAMPS! Since when, throughout history, does a stamp have to be dedicated to the American Flag or American everything and anything? The Postal Service here honors many requests for stamps that have nothing to do with America or its holidays. IT'S A STAMP!!!! Stamps honor everything.
Well, the way it is portrayed (to get people's panties in a bunch) is as follows:
"Now the United States Postal Service REMEMBERS and HONORS the EID MUSLIM holiday season with a new commemorative first class holiday postage stamp.
I strongly urge you to REMEMBER to adamantly and vocally BOYCOTT this stamp when purchasing your holiday stamps at the post office. To use this stamp would be a slap in the face to all those AMERICANS who died at the hands of those whom this stamp honors. I also strongly urge you to pass this along to every Patriotic AMERICAN you know, whether by email or otherwise. "
People need to stop and figure out what's really going on before giving in to their knee jerk reaction because a knee jerk reaction usually makes you look like a jerk, hence the jerk part in knee jerk.
But that last part is a moo point. In other words, it is like a cow's opinion, it doesn't matter ;)
What?!?!?! Blasphemy!!!! Where would I get my CD fodder from? FW: FW: FW: in the subject line is what keeps the points rolling in! Without it, there would be no J.C.! How can you be so callous and insensitive?
That is hilarious! No they don't have a right to be offended by this! That is like sayig white people have a right to be offended with a black person on a stamp. OUR NEW PRESIDENT IS BLACK!
Absolutely not. Who cares? If you truly cared about Jesus, the Christ, you would not be so insecure that this would even matter to you. Go do as you are commanded: help the poor, feed the hungry, clothe the poor.
If you do this, as we do in my church, and as I do in my personal journey as a Christian, you will have so little time on your hands and so little left in your wallet that this will be the least of your possible concerns.
Why does this concern you? How is putting out a postage stamp a threat to your beliefs. Is the intolerance we witnessed over the Danish cartoon a few years ago the role model you truly seem to be choosing? If it is, kindly do me the favor and refrain from calling yourself "Christian." Find something else to label yourself, because clearly that is not the path of the genuine article.
Woa woa WOA! Hey there you guys! I finally read the article, and this one sentance is REALLY pissing me off: "The stamp described above exists, although it is neither new nor a Christmas stamp: It is a seven-year-old USPS holiday series stamp comemmorating two Islamic holidays that have no connection to Christmans."
ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS?! >:I What the hell is this?! So just because there are more Christians in this country than any other religious peoples means that the winter season just automatically revolves around Christmas now?! If this is the whole reason that this article was written then it is all BULL-SHIT! What about Channuka? Or Kwanza? Those are BOTH holidays that have NO connection to Christmas at ALL! Damn! It is people like this who make the Muslim extremists seem not so bad! This author is blaming ALL Muslims for what ONE group of extremists accomplished! And then he/she is going on to say that Christmas is the ONLY winter holiday that deserves federal recognition!
Does anyone besides me realize how FUCKED UP this whole debate is right now? I think all people of other religions have more of a reason to be offended by this article than any Christian does by this stamp!