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Debate Score:25
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Do Gay Men Have A Special Duty to Protect Children?

It seems that the only Christian argument, that we have these days that has any shred of being logical, for why people shouldn't act on their homosexual desires are to protect children. Of course, we all have a responsibility not to expose children to sexual acts - it is absolutely unacceptable to talk about sex in the presence of children or not preform any sexual acts in front of them. This is the duty of care that everyone has. However, Christians argue that children shouldn't know about the existence of homosexuals. So.. for example.. me and my gay partner... should we not have friends that have children? It is very obvious that we are together. Should we not hug in public? Kiss? Should we restrain ourselves beyond that which heterosexual do in order to protect children?

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Side Score: 6
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Side Score: 19

All people have a duty to protect our children from public sexual displays. Straight people should not be having long kisses in front of others, and Gays should respect parent's rights to protect their children from seeing controversial unnatural sexual displays in public.

When will activist Gays ever respect the strong beliefs of others, and accept the obvious biological science that Homosexuality is unnatrual and abnormal.

Stop being such insecure arrogant people who refuse to respect other's beliefs of what should be lifted up as scientific norms of relationships to our children.

It is absolutely unnatural and abnormal for two men to be sexual partners. Would arrogant people like yourself be also sayng it is ok for men to be kissing animals in public?

I guess we should allow beastiality to be displayed in front of our children since we have some weird people into that. Let's just allow every weird fetish in this twisted world to be displayed in front of our chidren.

Why would your unnatural Homosexual sexual orientations get special treatment over people into beastiality, sex with dead people, etc. etc.

Nah, you say those are weird and unnatural sexual orientations, but Homosexuality is not.

Have you noticed the condition of our children's lives, and the condition of our family units today? Do you see the slippery slope in action? We need to lift up the biological norms to our impressionable children.

I believe in treating all people with respect no matter what they do in the bedroom but I sure don't want it being displayed in from of our children. HAVE SOME RESPECT FOR THE OBVIOUS REASONS WHY HOMOSEXUALITY IS NOT TREATED THE SAME AS HETEROSEXUALITY!

Can you even grasp what we are talking about here?

Side: Yes
Atrag(5443) Disputed
2 points

Let me make it clear what you're demanding that I do. I am a gay man with a gay partner. I have also worked with many children and have friends that have children. My partner and I have been on holiday with these children - they know that we are a couple. What you are demanding is that I break any contact I have with kids or else I lie to them about our relationship. You are saying that I can't hold hands with my partner nor even say the words "we are a couple". You're telling us to be completely isolated from society because ultimately any child that spends time with us is going to realise that we are gay. THAT is why we have to fight against people like you. You will not control us. Thankfully, we have largely won the fight in Europe - although I have to admit that the muslim immigration threats that.

Now to deal with you specific points:

All people have a duty to protect our children from public sexual displays. Straight people should not be having long kisses in front of others,

Exactly, because a "long kiss" is a sexual display. No one should do it.

and Gays should respect parent's rights to protect their children from seeing controversial unnatural sexual displays in public.

Right.. parents have the right to protect their children from sexual displays, yes. Whether homosexual or hetrosexual.

When will activist Gays ever respect the strong beliefs of others, and accept the obvious biological science that Homosexuality is unnatrual and abnormal.

Unnatural isnt an issue. You are typing on a computer haha.

Abnormal is an issue. It should be the norm that homosexuals can express themselves in public. That is something that we wil fix - dont worry.

Would arrogant people like yourself be also sayng it is ok for men to be kissing animals in public?

The argument for why homosexuals should be allowed to kiss each other in public is because they are both capable of consent and feel reciprocal love. Not the same with bestiality so there is no slippery slope.

Why would your unnatural Homosexual sexual orientations get special treatment over people into beastiality, sex with dead people, etc. etc.

See above.

Nah, you say those are weird and unnatural sexual orientations, but Homosexuality is not.

Nope, I say they are not consensual.

I believe in treating all people with respect no matter what they do in the bedroom but I sure don't want it being displayed in from of our children.

What they do in the bedroom should not be displayed in public. It seems we largely agree.

Side: No
jeffreyone(1296) Disputed
1 point

See you soon in diapers... and later in hell...........................................................

Side: Yes
FromWithin(6766) Disputed
1 point

ROFLOL, you don't know the animal is not consenting to being kissed. A dead person has no consent or non consent. As always, you can live unnatural lives, but not those other groups.

You waste my time and are the very reason Christians fight for their right's to protection from those who would influence our children.

IGNORE

Side: Yes
4 points

Society as a whole has a duty to protect children because they are the future of that society. But specific subgroups within that society cannot be singled out for having bigger responsibility in it than others unless a) it's their actual job, or b) they're a parent themselves.

Side: No
2 points

It would be illogical to say that homosexuals have a duty beyond that of heterosexuals, it is special pleading, there is no rational justification for it.

We live in the 21st century, homosexuality is part of nature and part of society. In the UK at least homophobia of this nature is beginning to disappear, any who still hold these prejudices are generally of the later generations.

Side: No
1 point

One small point of contention, please don't suggest all Christians think that way. Some do, some don't.

Otherwise, homosexuals are under the same obligation as heterosexuals to protect their children. Hugging and kissing (no tongue) in public is fine, french kissing and sex shouldn't be done in public or in front of kids. That's my personal opinion on the matter though.

Side: No
1 point

No, not at all, they have the same duty (e.i. they are in principle just like heterosexual parents). "Christians" ( by no means all Christians or religious people though) and people that think like this are attempting to bully others (in this case Homosexuals) who reject their framework for how life or "ought" to be into living in accordance with their worldview. Homosexuals have just as much claim to love, happiness, relationships, ect. as heterosexuals do. They only thing they people who espouse to a "traditional" worldview (eg. Christian normative) is sheer number of subscribers and a historical framework of such bigotry existing as the norm for quite some time into the past that they can point to (ironically attempted to be used as evidence in their favor?).

I understand things can be difficult on you because there are so many hateful bigots/prejudiced people out there that desire to make peoples lives so needlessly more difficult/painful, but there are many other people that are there standing by you support you and prepared to challenge people on the opposite side of the line.

Side: No
1 point

Nah, you might as well wear your fascist flag high. It's a free country, right?

That also means that everyone else is free to make fun of you.

Side: No
1 point

No , and it's absurd to assume so . My only problem with this posting is I'm not sure if you and your partner are Christian but if yous are I'm curious as to why ? When I was growing up as a Catholic homosexuality was considered a grave sin every Christian denomination thought so too , nowadays it commonplace to accept all into the church , so when did god change his mind ? How did he let these various religious leaders know ?

Side: No