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They DO Liars think they're SMART
Debate Score:68
Arguments:64
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Do LIARS think everybody LIES like them?

They DO

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Liars think they're SMART

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1 point

Well, we all know ONE that does …. and seems to get pissed off when he alleges someone does the same to HIM!

"I am the LIAR IN CHEIF! But NOBODY has the right to say I am"! :-(

Side: They DO
outlaw60(13954) Disputed
1 point

GRANDPAW your PET NIGGER was not a LIAR ???????????

You regurgitate the propaganda fed to you by the Leftist Media that lies to you !!!!!!!!!!

Listen to your PET NIGGER lie !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oF6iyqpo36c

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/c-span-calls-for-more-transparent-health-care-talks/

As a presidential candidate, Barack Obama called for completely transparent health care deliberations and even promised to hold all negotiations on C-SPAN. Now, as the health care debate reaches its final stages, the nonprofit cable company is asking Washington leaders to follow through on that promise.

AL your NIGGER was a LIAR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Side: Liars think they're SMART
1 point

AL your NIGGER was a LIAR !

All lies were not created equal.

Side: They DO
outlaw60(13954) Disputed
1 point

AL you are an IDIOT an your Left Wing Site proves that fact !

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/promise/517/health-care-reform-public-sessions-C-SPAN/

Negotiate health care reform in public sessions televised on C-SPAN

To achieve health care reform, "I'm going to have all the negotiations around a big table. We'll have doctors and nurses and hospital administrators. Insurance companies, drug companies -- they'll get a seat at the table, they just won't be able to buy every chair. But what we will do is, we'll have the negotiations televised on C-SPAN, so that people can see who is making arguments on behalf of their constituents, and who are making arguments on behalf of the drug companies or the insurance companies. And so, that approach, I think is what is going to allow people to stay involved in this process."

Obama said he'd televise health reform negotiations on C-SPAN

By Angie Drobnic Holan on Friday, July 10th, 2009 at 6:39 p.m.

During the presidential campaign, Barack Obama said several times that he intended to negotiate health care reform publicly. In fact, he said, he'd televise the negotiations on C-SPAN, with all the parties sitting at a big table. That way, Americans would be more engaged in the process and insist on real change.

"That's what I will do in bringing all parties together, not negotiating behind closed doors, but bringing all parties together, and broadcasting those negotiations on C-SPAN so that the American people can see what the choices are, because part of what we have to do is enlist the American people in this process," Obama said at a debate in Los Angeles on Jan. 31, 2008.

The special interests and lobbyists, he said, "will resist anything that we try to do. ... And the antidote to that is making sure that the American people understand what is at stake."

We missed this promise when we first made our database, but thanks to thorough reporting on it from the McClatchy News Service , we're adding it now. ( Read their story .)

The McClatchy report showed that, so far, substantial negotiations on health reform have been held behind closed doors. These include two agreements with the drug industry and hospitals to reduce costs over the next 10 years. In Congress, some of the committee bill writing sessions have been open, but negotiations are also taking place behind closed doors. That's routine in Congress. Much of the difficult negotiations take place in private sessions, before bills come to committee or the House or Senate floor.

White House spokesman Robert Gibbs told the McClatchy reporters that Obama "has demonstrated more transparency than any president," but that "I don't think the president intimated that every decision putting together a health care bill would be on public TV."

Maybe not every decision, but he made it clear that he wanted negotiations, especially with those representing the for-profit health care industry, to take place in the open. We were able to find four additional instances where he made the same promise during public appearances in 2007 and 2008. And in one case, he said he'd do it in his first 100 days.

"People say, 'Well, you have this great health care plan, but how are you going to pass it? You know, it failed in '93,'" Obama said on Aug. 21, 2008, at a town hall in Chester, Va. "And what I've said is, I'm going to have all the negotiations around a big table. We'll have doctors and nurses and hospital administrators. Insurance companies, drug companies — they'll get a seat at the table, they just won't be able to buy every chair. But what we will do is, we'll have the negotiations televised on C-SPAN, so that people can see who is making arguments on behalf of their constituents, and who are making arguments on behalf of the drug companies or the insurance companies. And so, that approach, I think is what is going to allow people to stay involved in this process."

Part of the issue here is that Obama has announced broad outlines for a health care bill — primarily lower costs and expanded access — but he has left the details of legislation to Congress. That gives Congress a lot of the power to control the debate, as then-candidate Hillary Clinton warned Obama during the Los Angeles debate. "Certainly, it is important that the president come up with the plan, but we'll have to persuade Congress to put all of those deliberations on C-SPAN. Now, I think we might be able to do that, but that's a little heavier lift than what the president is going to propose," she said at the time.

AL talk about a LYING NIGGER IN CHIEF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Side: Liars think they're SMART

Yes libs are certain that non libs live in a make believe world where up is down and down is up just like them. We don't. We can do math and shit.

Side: They DO
1 point

We can do math and shit.

Now that's especially funny given that last night I literally had to explain to you that t1 means t.

Side: Liars think they're SMART
outlaw60(13954) Disputed
1 point

Well you are wrong but i am surprised by your ignorance ???????????????????????

Side: They DO
5 points

George Bernard Shaw sums up the plight of the liar in his quote;- ''The liar's punishment is not in the least that he is not believed, but that he cannot believe anyone else''.

Side: Liars think they're SMART
1 point

If the stereo typical monotheistic god knew no separation, no objective or subjective, would it confirm that his lies were his truths and his truths were his lies? knowing the distinction between a truth or a lie entails knowing separation. And theres no separation without knowledge of the self. Like we do, being at most times unconscious of the self forget we are separate from others even when telling lies to the extent that lieing with only self in mind seeks truth from separation. (using a lie to dismiss the others truth so there is no separation). Needing other to preserve ones own ideologies or beliefs form naratives from which the self is sourced. When we seek others to validate our truths, who are we really lieing to if we need others to believe it is our own. So liers that don't know theyre own true lies surely would deny they are like anyone who lies.

Side: Liars think they're SMART

They probably do think people lie as they do, but mostly they think they're smarter than you; that they're so clever you don't see through their BS. I've known a few pathological liars and it amazes me how they think you can't see through their crap.

Side: Liars think they're SMART

Are the scientists lying who say your ancestry test is meaningless?

Side: Liars think they're SMART
Jody(618) Disputed
3 points

Are the scientists lying who say your ancestry test is meaningless?

Are the scientists lying who say your 9/11 conspiracy “scientists “ findings are meaningless?

Side: They DO
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Are the scientists lying who say your 9/11 conspiracy “scientists “ findings are meaningless?

Dear Jody, you are confused (as usual). My "9/11 conspiracy findings" COME FROM SCIENTISTS. People like Professor Niels Harrit, Professor Steven Jones and Professor David Griscom. YOU are the one who has no scientific evidence, which is why as per usual your ignorance on the matter is astounding.

My guess is that you have never actually READ this study:-

https://benthamopen.com/contents/pdf/TOCPJ/TOCPJ-2-7.pdf

Side: Liars think they're SMART