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Get Off Keep Your Seat
Debate Score:20
Arguments:16
Total Votes:20
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Do You Have To Get Off The Plane?

You buy your ticket, you show up on time, you board the plane and take your seat.  
The airline overbooks to maximize profits.  There are more passengers at the gate than seats on the plane. They offer $800 vouchers to get off and take a later plane.  Not enough people take the offer. The airline selects seated passengers who MUST get off the plane. Things get very ugly.

When do you HAVE to get off the plane?

Get Off

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Keep Your Seat

Side Score: 3
3 points

You have to get off, If a uniformed police officer orders you to.

Side: Get Off
2 points

I don't know for sure, but I would be surprised if the ''terms and conditions of carriage'' do not require passengers to abide by the decision of the airline staff when such a situation occurs.

Once you hit the ''I agree' box, which you have to if you wish to proceed with your booking, you will probably find that you have committed yourself to having to relinquish your seat if instructed to do so my an authorised member of the airline staff.

However, things may not work out to be so black and white in a court of law.

Side: Get Off
1 point

When the cops show up to remove you, you definitely have to get off the plane.

Side: Get Off
daver(1772) Clarified
1 point

Interestingly the CEO of United said today, that they will never again bring a police officer on a plan for this situation.

What new rule should the CEO make to resolve this situation in the future?

Side: Get Off
1 point

They need to keep people off the plane if the plane is over booked. You don't need to remove someone from a plane if they aren't in it.

Side: Get Off

Yes you have to get off. Eventually the crackers and peanuts run out and you have to go to the store for food.

Side: Get Off
1 point

Look 3 others got off the plane with no problem but the EX-Doctor wanted to create a problem for the sole purpose of suing the airline. The Ex-Doctor was removed once then got back aboard so he was looking for trouble with a purpose in mind.

Side: Get Off
1 point

http://www.popularmechanics.com/flight/airlines/news/a26010/united-airlines-bump-passenger-rights/

Short answer yes. They have a few clauses in their tickets that give them the right to do so. Once you refuse they can say you are unruly and a threat and interfering with the flight crew.

Side: Get Off
1 point

If an airline representative orders you off, tell them NO.

They created the problem, it's not your responsibility to solve it.

Side: Keep Your Seat
Antrim(999) Clarified
3 points

I agree with your sentiments, but would be interested to know what is in the small print of the airline's conditions which all passengers will, either knowingly or unknowingly, have agreed to.

I feel that this disgraceful incident could have been averted if the issue had been addressed and resolved in the airport terminal.

On a trip to Dubai some years ago a similar situation arose and no one accepted the offer of $1000 plus overnight accommodation.

I spoke to the representative and ''negotiated'' ( blackmailed) him into paying me $1600, overnight accommodation and an upgrade to 1st class for my journey the following day.

The free Moet et Chandon tasted particularly sweet.

Side: Get Off
1 point

Hello:

I dunno if you "have" to, but I WOULDN'T.. Oh, they'd remove me, but I wouldn't go peacefully and willingly, and I'd sue them for everything...

excon

Side: Keep Your Seat
outlaw60(8861) Disputed
3 points

The Typical Progressive reaction which is all the Ex-Doctor was looking to do !

Side: Get Off
1 point

I believe that since this problem was created by establishment, they should have to solve it and not you. forcing random volunteers off a plane, even by the police or governmental elects does not create a sort of environment that makes people respect authority but does the opposite. so i do not believe you shoul have to get off just because a government official tells you too

Side: Keep Your Seat
outlaw60(8861) Disputed
3 points

Okay so if you are ordered to a room to be strip searched by the TSA which is a Federal Organization(Government) you believe that you shouldn't have to because a government official tells you to ?

Side: Get Off