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Debate Score:78
Arguments:65
Total Votes:83
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Do humans have the right to commit suicide?

Yes

Side Score: 46
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No

Side Score: 32

I believe humans have the right to commit suicide. And those who have suffered from severe depression know just how badly suicide can be desired. I feel that if one truly does not want to live, then they have the right to stop. However, I strongly suggest taking numerous things into consideration, and trying to get the help that is needed. And if nothing helps, and you are intent on dying, then people have the right to make that choice for themselves. It is our lives. We can do what we want with them.

Side: Yes
1 point

I absolutely agree. Thank you for an intelligent post .

Side: Yes
2 points

Well if God allows humans to commit suicide then they must have the right.

Side: Yes

It's your life.

Not a whole lot we can do to stop people, anyways.

Side: Yes
1 point

yeeeap, I agree with you that is is our lives and nobody could allow to live or not to live.

Side: Yes
2 points

I don't think "right" is the correct term. Humans can commit suicide. Whether they should or shouldn't depends on who you ask, but ultimately it's up to the person who's life is in question. For the same reason it's absurd to tell someone they don't have a right to live, it's equally absurd to say they don't also have a right to end their life. What is life without the freedom of choice? Life is a choice.

Side: Yes
Cynical(1946) Disputed
1 point

Life isn't a choice. Return to the beginning of a human life: Does a fetus choose to live?

Side: No
2 points

No, you're right. A fetus doesn't choose to live. I didn't think of that! :-)

Continuing to live is a choice though. Unless someone is forcing you to live or if you don't have a choice. In the case of suicide, choice is implied. Without choice a person can't commit suicide, right? What came to mind for me is that if you stopped moving, eating, breathing then eventually you would die. So in that sense, life is a continuous choice.

Side: Yes
2 points

Well, this doesn't really matter. The right or not, if someone does, what will you do. Throw them in jail?! No. The problem is, assisted suicide. If someone wants to commit suicide but can't because of a disability, then they should have the right to be helped to die.

Side: Yes
1 point

Well, you see, when the Gods give you life, they are really giving you a gift. If you decide to commit suicide, then you are rejecting that gift which would be considered rude in many cultures and obviously an insult to the Gods so they would destroy you, but, in a way, the joke would be on them because you would already be dead.

Side: Yes
1 point

I know it's deemed wrong by Catholics and according to them your Soul is damned if you commit suicide, I dont know how other religions view on it though but i'm giessing it would be something similar

Side: Yes
1 point

Well we all have the right to do whatever the fuck we want but whether it is "Right" morally or by society is an entire different question.

Fact: You have a higher chance of winning the lottery 7 times than being born, thats how great the odds are against that one cell becoming a human being.

Side: Yes
1 point

Most people are born with a survivor instinct, that makes them wanna try to survive no matter what. Some do not have this, and some lose it as they grow up.

I said yes because I believe I have the right to kill myself right now.

But I think that for those who wanna kill themselves, there should be some help they could get.

I'm not saying the 'help' would help, but if nothing can help your lack of enjoy in life - then of course suicide is an option.

But I think it is stupid to do it, without trying something else first - because if you succeed a suicide, there is no going back, and that should be taken seriously.

YOLO!!!

Side: Yes
1 point

Why wouldn't they? We live in a world that fears and hates death, so I can understand why one would say that they do not, but it is your life. You are the owner of the physical body endowed to you and if you want to end it's life, who has the right to stop you; Someone who is afraid of death?

Side: Yes
1 point

If someone feels they have nothing to live for and they think it would be better without them than yes they have the right.

Side: Yes
1 point

Yes. If people cannot possibly escape from their dilemma, they should be offered the option. I personally think no one should do it nor find it is an easy, adequate away to escape. However, there are situations where maybe one should do it and God should grant them this right.

Side: Yes
nummi(1435) Disputed
0 points

and God should grant them this right.

... So stupid.

If you are incapable of coming up with something reasonable, logical, something that actually makes sense, then please, refrain from saying anything.

There's no God. And don't start another religion/God debate, it's pointless, you'll never win it. You'll never win it because you'd get flooded with evidence, logic, reason, reality - something religion and God defenders can never provide.

Side: No
1 point

As a human being, I have the right to live however which way I want to. Of course I need to follow the law of the state and pay my taxes duly, but once I am no more I need not fulfill these tasks anymore. I am neither giving nor taking anything and hence a proportional part of the system obliterates when one dies. This would happen anyway when I die of aging (which definitely IS my right. As of course I could not have chosen when I want to be born. That choice was made by my parents. But who will make the choice when I will die? In an average scenario, my parents would have died already when my time of dying of aging came along, so it can't be them. Who else? My wife, children? No. That decision has to be taken only by me and my conscious reasoning process. Of course, if I have wife and kids my reasoning process would never allow me to make that decision, but that's just me. ). So why would the legal system disallow suicide?

I see only see selfish motives. And against rights of fellow humans.

Side: Yes
1 point

Yes. If someone doesn't want to be here, why waste space and resources on them? It's their own decision, and would probably help the world in the end (there would be a higher percentage of happy, progressive people, so humanity could move forward faster).

Side: Yes
1 point

I believe that people should be able to hurt themselves and cause as much destruction to their own life as they want, as long as it won't physically harm other people without their consent. That's why I believe prostitution, suicide, all drugs, and more should be legal.

Side: Yes
1 point

Of cource people have the right to commit suicide.Its their choice and their life and no-one can change that.It's a big choice to make,but if they have thought it through and they wish to go ahead i say "let em!"

Side: Yes
1 point

Yes!!!

that is the most natural right that humans have...Only few do it ...

Side: Yes

This argument can pretty much apply to most discussions like this:

My body, I'll do what I want, so get lost.

Personally I don't agree with suicide, but you have every right to do it if you so choose.

Side: Yes
Jace(4706) Clarified
1 point

I have never understood "agreeing" or "disagreeing" with suicide. What does that even mean? Do you disagree with the idea of it? The action of it? Or are you just saying you would not personally do it? Right now I am genuinely confused, not debating.

Side: Yes
1 point

yes it is their life their ending sand they should have the right

Side: Yes
1 point

YES! BECAUSE ITS THEIR LIFE WHO HAS THE RIGHT TO JUDGE THEM.THEY CHOOSE FOR THEM FOR THEMSELVES THEIR FATE NO OTHER HUMAN BEING.

Side: Yes
1 point

The degree of ignorance on this debate is appalling.

I would like to call particular attention to the phrase "permanent solution to a temporary problem." This is a pat response that completely dismisses the actual complexity surrounding depression and suicide. The crux of depression is that it represents an actual change in one's brain chemistry, and this effects ones perception of life and the world at large. Becoming suicidal is a consequence of this altered perception of reality. Few people actually consider suicide as a "solution" but rather as a way out of the pain they are experiencing constantly and over extended periods of time; it is not a choice for death but against continuing to suffer. Many of those who commit suicide endure their depression for months if not years. If you have never had severe, chronic depression then politely piss of with your "temporary problem" bullshit because you have no idea what it is like to struggle with that for an extended period of time; it does feel like forever. Furthermore, those who live with chronic depression are likely to experience it throughout their lives so it is not even a "temporary problem" for many. You may be able to learn to manage it better, but it is always a constant threat.

To those who play the God card, firstly prove to me that your God exists before you cast moral judgement on those who have taken their lives. Next, you can answer me why God predisposes some people to experience severe and chronic depression. It is a proven genetic, biological, neurological phenomenon and if your God made all that is then he made this too. Also, the argument that God does not give us anything we cannot handle is obviously false since people do take their own lives - it is out of desperation not because they want to, and perhaps more crucially it is because of the change in brain chemistry.

Finally, stop pointing your fingers at the people who have taken their lives and take a moment of introspection. If we did not have the sorry excuse for a mental health care system that we do (around the world) then suicide would be a far rarer occurrence. If we did not stigmatize and silence mental ill-health then suicide would, again, be a far rarer occurrence. If we did not discriminate against people for who they are we would have a lower suicide rate as well. Suicide has at least as much to do with our interrelations and society as it does with those who take their lives.

Side: Yes

Some people suffer a great mental illness where they don't want to live anymore because they think things aren't going to get any better. To end the mental pain, they take their own life. In this case, humans do have the right to commit suicide.

Side: Yes
0 points

Rights, right and wrong, moral and immoral, laws, rules, etc., all made up by humans. If you want to make a suicide, go ahead. You would actually do good by it, by removing the possible genetic inclination of making a suicide at some age. I don't consider weak people highly even though in everyday life I'd not even care, I'd just ignore them or their particular characteristic.

One must have a very weak mind to think and actually try to make a suicide.

Side: Yes
TheAshman(2299) Disputed
1 point

So do you see people with Mental Health issues as being Weak and should be ignored how very enlightened of you it's this kind of thinking that leads to people commiting suicide.

Your also incorrect a lot of people with great minds scientifically and artistically have been depressive or ended their lives with Suicide, Alan Turing, Founder Of Computer Sciences (Suicide), Hunter S Thompson, Writer (Suicide), Kurt Cobain, Musician (Suicidal Depressive) to name three people who are not thought to have been weakminded who have comitted suicide.

Side: No
nummi(1435) Disputed
1 point

There are many ways of interpreting "weak". If something negative is dominating and even controlling a person's decisions and even life, then that can be considered as a major weakness.

Your also incorrect a lot of people with great minds scientifically and artistically have been depressive or ended their lives with Suicide

They might have had an intelligent mind in certain areas but were weak when it came to coping with their lives.

Committing a suicide is having a weak mind. Suicide means there is something one cannot handle, mentally.

You think my live is flowery and sugary and there are rainbows everywhere? No, my life sucks on a rather high level. Do I consider suicide? No, because that would be, among other things, extremely stupid and unintelligent. I look at how things are, accept the current situation and move on accordingly.

Side: Yes

hmmm.. tough concept. people do have the rights to choose the direction of their own lives, even if it means taking their own life away, but God put everyone on Earth for a reason, so taking your life away before you can fulfill that purpose is like disobeying Him, so im gonna say no.

Side: No
riahlize(1573) Disputed
2 points

God put everyone on Earth for a reason, so taking your life away before you can fulfill that purpose is like disobeying Him, so im gonna say no.

By that logic, we shouldn't stop the rapists, thieves, etc. They're here for a reason.

What would be made of murderers?

Side: Yes
NeverUTOG(49) Disputed
1 point

Excuse me? "...God put everyone on Earth for a reason,...."

Really? You have that on whose authority? Some fairytale gawd that resides in the heavens? I'm sorry, but when will the ignorance cease and desist. Truly, I have no problem with you believing in goblins and gremlins or anything else for that matter, but your beliefs shall never preempt mine nor should they rule over any one else's. How utterly arrogant to think otherwise.

Side: Yes
TheAshman(2299) Disputed
3 points

She was only putting across her point of view there was no mention of her beliefs preemting or ruling over yours and you say you have no problem with people having their own beliefs but it sounds to me like you do "when will the ignorance cease and desist", why should your beliefs preempt or rule over anyone else's, if anyone is being arrogant it is you

Side: No
Sitara(11088) Disputed
1 point

Can you make a logical argument? :)

Side: No
Jace(4706) Disputed
1 point

Ignoring the high probability that God does not exist and did not put everyone on Earth for a reason... what makes you think the reason he put some people on Earth was not for them to kill themselves eventually anyways? Why does that have to be against God's will and desire?

Side: Yes

NO, humans do NOT have the right to commit suicide. And those who succeed should get "Life" in Prison! ... wait... WTF did I just say ;)

Side: No
1 point

Hell, NO! Prosecute posthumously the lot of them! By all means, make someone criminally responsible for this act of self-annihilation. Let's fill up those prison cells and build more--whatever it takes to make examples of these miscreants and their families.

And if they should happen to mess up the mission, then let's add to their misery and throw them into jail so that they may be more furthered persecuted than they had thought possible prior to trying their hand at suicide.

Really, if anyone is truly interested in those who would commit suicide, get involved in mental health and not criminal persecution of those already feeling the heat from personal circumstances and/or society at large.

I find your question truly troublesome.

Side: No
Hellno(17761) Clarified
1 point

Were you talking to me?

Side: Yes
2 points

Hellyes!! :)

Oh shoot, I just wanted to leave it at that. Seems you were granted permission to post under 50 characters whilst I wasn't. Official to the floor........unfair call under dispute. Decision is actually hindering quality of debate, as I hereby so attest.

Side: No
1 point

no. i think dat men don't hav the right 2 suicide. those who suicide are negative thinkers. a person must never be negative in thoughts n his doings. rather, he must not give up and do it the next time. generally teens suicide due to society pressure as it occurs a lot now a days and is really very frequent. we must not neglect him/her but encourage him/her. encouraging means not in bad things, but in good things. so, talk to a friend in need of u and who is passing by the thought of suicide. u must help him/her as much as u can and consult to an elderly trustful person as we are not that much grown up that we can solve everything our self.

Side: No

No, when a person commits suicide it doesn't only effect the, it effects the people around them, also, suicide is permanent solution to a temporary problem.

Side: No
Jace(4706) Disputed
2 points

When a person decides to drop out of high school or go to college that affects other people. When a person chooses to drink or smoke or become a vegetarian, that affects other people. Ultimately, it is that individual's life. That said, people who commit suicide are typically those whose support networks are inadequate or completely absent. Suicide is almost always tied to depression or psychotic breaks, and neither are something a person can be blamed for.

As far as being "a permanent solution to a temporary problem" that phrase is a pat and flippant response to a serious and complicated issue. Someone who commits suicide does so generally because they are suffering from depression, most often chronic and severe. It is not a "solution" and few view it as a "solution"; it is simply that the alternative of living is too unbearable. As far as the "temporary problem" when one suffers from chronic, severe depression the problem is a multi-year condition if not lifelong.

I am not saying people should not get help, but rather that the help is not always there. Also important to note, depression and other mental illness skews ones perspective on life

Finally, those who commit suicide and do still have people who care about them are often aware that they are hurting those they leave behind but cannot bear the pain in their life. Is it self-centered? Perhaps, but you try living with a chronic mental ill-health condition and get back to me.

Side: Yes
1 point

I agree with you, that suicide effcts the people around you. For example, Your life is very important for your poarents, for your relatives. If you do not appreciate life, other people appreciate you)) That's why you shouldn't forget about them.

Side: No
1 point

I don't think humans should commit suicide because they are taking their whole life away, it has to rain for a rainbow to come right? So if you end your life at the rain, your never gonna see the rainbow. I think when humans commit suicide, they are angry and don't think straight, they just act and that act won't only ruin their lives but what about their loved ones? they are the ones who will have to suffer ages and ages after the human is dead. So with that said I think humans should stick out the bad to see the good, not kill themselves when all is wrong.

Side: No
1 point

Of course people do not have the right to commit suicide!!!It's the way of weak people,cowards.People do not succeed in solving their own problems but also hurt close ones leaving them and not just leaving but leaving to solve their problems.The ones that they leave will always blame themselves in the death.They will always think that they could do something,anything to prevent it from happening.So with that act they will not only destroy their own life but will make it harder to live for remained ones.

Side: No
1 point

People have their own lives. They can do everything what they want. However, they shouldn't commit suicide.

Firstly, it is very stupid.

Secondly, in my own experience, I can say that I wanted to commit a suicide because I had a lot of problems. I thought that those problems never run out, but they were temporary. In future life you will have more dificulties, that' s why you should learn to deal with problems, to overcome them.

Thirdly, people ,who commit suicide, are very selfish. They didn't think about their parents, how their parents could live without their lovely children. Parents live for their children, for us.

That's why I want to say that we should appreciate every minute of our lives.)))

Side: No
1 point

humans do not have any right to commit suicide. Personally i think that if you have a problem with anyone or anything, seek consultation and if you are not satisfied with the advice given to you, rather you just isolate yourself away from any sign of civilisation. Let"s get something straight here; your body is not yours,you are just taking care of it for God.Besides, God did not have the intention of giving you problems and then have you kill yourself afterwards. Everyone has difficult situations in their lives ,but they do not just go about killing themselves.

Side: No
1 point

they are bringing grievance to their family by taking away their life and GOD did not give anyone to take away their life

Side: No
1 point

People choose the life they live.. if they think suicide it the right answer well then... but most of the time the problem thats bothering them can be resolved... "suicide is a permante solutiuon to a temporary problem" I dont know who said it... b

Side: No
0 points

Death is something that is extremely beautiful, and it is selfish to take it without first earning it.

Side: No