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Every living human has a right to protest. But having a right to protest does not mean you are shielded from prosecution or deportation.
Pedophiles have a right to protest, too. And after they do they can be rounded up and put in jail for acts of pedophilia. (But not for the act of protesting, just for the act of pedophilia).
So hey, whomever it is, let them protest. Go ahead, let them.
You shoot without aiming. What did I say? Read it again. I said they can protest but they still can be arrested for crimes despite that. Which is addressing illegals, isn't it? You were so ready to come out shooting you just weren't paying any attention.
Every living human has a right to protest. But having a right to protest does not mean you are shielded from prosecution or deportation.
Pedophiles have a right to protest, too. And after they do they can be rounded up and put in jail for acts of pedophilia. (But not for the act of protesting, just for the act of pedophilia).
So hey, whomever it is, let them protest. Go ahead, let them.
And where did you say illegals would be put in jail for protesting Boston Boy ?
I haven't seen any international agreement stating the right to protest is shared by all humans, and the question is being asked about illegal Mexicans in America. The First Amendment to the Constitution gives the right to freedom of speech, right to religious freedom, right to petition, and the right to protest. But, these rights are given to U.S. citizens, not just everyone that currently lives in the U.S.
As for the pedophile thing, they have the right to protest in America if they are citizens according to the Bill of Rights, and also if they had an IQ of more than 20 then they would commit no blatant acts of pedophilia.
You're probably technically right about the Constitutional coverage, though the Court could still posit the Founding Fathers wanted the climate of free expression throughout the land, meaning it's more than an individual right.
I don't ever see anyone checking documentation to make sure every protester is a legal citizen when the protest starts and until that happens or until they are arrested it will be impossible to know who is protesting as a legal citizen and who is protesting as an illegal immigrant.
They have the right to protest but it does not mean that:
A. They will be taken too seriously
B. They won't be arrested/rounded up and deported once they are found to be here illegally.
So until B happens, sure, they have the right. After B happens? It won't matter.
Here we have another Progressive the "Mint Jewel" using Progressive talking points to protect the illegal aliens. Now is it Jewel would it be let's say in Cuba which you Progressives love protesting citizens legal or not be arrested and put in jail ?
Referring to A.
Do you think they would not be taken seriously ?
You Poor Little Progressives are insane and your insanity grows daily !
The point is not moot you Progressive Jewel if i remember correctly the Progressive Media just praised "The Boy King" Obama for going to Cuba. Have you forgotten that or is it you need to be reminded ? Tell me all about illegal Americans being in Cuba and having the right to protest. Come on i want to hear about !
Yes... The 1st Amendment makes no distinction between citizens and non citizens..
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The 1st Amendment:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
No distinction made right Super Super ?
The 2nd Amendment:
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
They would first have to have the Right to be in the US before they can have the Right to protest in the US. If a group of illegal immigrants is protesting, and ICE rounds them up and deports them, no Constitutional Right has been infringed.
Yes and if we could create a Super Special police force we could send them all to one place where they could concentrate on what they’ve done.
These are the arguments that lead us down the path to Fascism, dictatorships, aristocracies, Alex Joneses. Make sure your arguments are good, because they’ll be the ones used to limit your freedom in the future.
Yes and if we could create a Super Special police force we could send them all to one place where they could concentrate on what they’ve done.
You’re comparing any semblance of immigration policy with Nazi genocide. It’s absurd.
These are the arguments that lead us down the path to Fascism, dictatorships, aristocracies, Alex Joneses. Make sure your arguments are good, because they’ll be the ones used to limit your freedom in the future.
Baseless and incorrect. Requiring an immigration process leads to secure borders, which is not the same as closed borders. Sending people home is not at all like sending people to a death camp. Literally every modern country has an immigration policy that it enforces, and they are never compared to Nazis.
The logic of my post is straight forward. If you don’t have a legal right to BE somewhere, your right to speak there is irrelevant. You don’t loose your Constitutional Rights while trespassing, but since you have no right to be there, your right to speak there doesn’t exist. Understand?
Crazy Al nothing less is expected from a Crazy Progressive by your response.
Now Al tell me about the protests of Nazi's / White Supremacist when your"Boy King" Barack Obama was elected twice. Can you point to those protests between 2008 and 2016?
People from other countries absolutely have the right to protest here. But they first must have the right to be here. Otherwise their protest may correctly be interrupted by ICE without infringing on anyone’s Rights
What has happened is the introduction BY STEALTH of the loony left's agenda has us believing that criminals have a right to live and work here without paying taxes, and anyone who expresses opposition to this madness is a NAZI.
The American people have let themselves be sleep walked into this altogether ridiculous scenario without noticing that there are some 11 million criminals in their country.
The pandering to these low-lives has encouraged them to develop a belief that not only should we accept their illegal presence, but ought to permit 10s of 1000s of criminals demonstrate in the towns and cities where they shouldn't be.
Tell me another nation in the world that would tolerate such an invasion of criminals and let them try to dictate how their country is run.
The left have cleverly adopted the propaganda strategy from one of WW2s leading Nazis, Joseph Goebbels.
Your post pretty well reflects one of his quotes.
THE BEST PROPAGANDA IS THAT WHICH AS IT WERE, WORKS INVISIBLY , PENETRATES THE WHOLE OF SOCIETY WITHOUT THE THE PUBLIC HAVING ANY KNOWLEDGE OF THE PROPAGANDISTIC INITIATIVE.
The lunatic left have adopted, and adapted the strategic master plan for subliminal brainwashing of the American public from one of the leading figures who represented what they claim to be their opposing ideology, very successfully I may add.
Pretty God damned sneaky these double-talking liberal lefties.
The left have cleverly adopted the propaganda strategy from one of WW2s leading Nazis, Joseph Goebbels.
Except that's precisely what the right has done, since the Nazis were on the right in the first place. You are literally turning the truth upside down. Hitler hated the left even more than he hated Jews, so you really aren't going to fool anybody who has studied history past the 8th grade.
There is a common tactic at play here from the right, which is a form of lying where you literally turn the truth upside down and fire it back. The technical name for it is Freudian projection.
Except that's precisely what the right has done, since the Nazis were on the right in the first place
Another fake comparison. The Black Panthers, of the left, practice every general concept of Nazism, genocide of a race, demonization of a race, & a nationalistic glorification of their own race, & they are on the left.
We have even witnessed you fully deny that Islamic supremacist groups are on the right, which shows that either you are claiming certain religion and race supremacist groups as your own, or you are defending groups that are far right. Talk about stupid and not being self aware of what you say.
Try reading the posts you intend to challenge and that way you may avoid making a complete laughing stock of yourself.
I clearly emphasized that the left had cleverly adopted, and adapted the strategy of a leading Nazi whose political ideology they CLAIM to vehemently oppose.
You are indeed the idiot everyone states you to be.
Another fake comparison. The Black Panthers, of the left, practice every general concept of Nazism
Ahahaha! Yes, especially the one where they systematically persecute blacks for being genetically inferior.
Honestly, FactMachine, sometimes you are thicker than a pot of out-of-date yogurt. Just because the left spawns extremist groups too doesn't mean they believe in the same concepts. Both the Nazis and the Black Panthers used violence, intimidation and murder. There the similarity of concepts ends, which makes your claim an unfounded, sensationalist, factually inaccurate crock of shit, as per usual.
Number 2 i have not noticed that any Republicans have sent Jews to a gas chamber
Outlaw, the basic Republican voting base is comprised of white nationalist hate groups, militant Christian wingnuts and part-time KKK members. Are you saying that is some kind of coincidence?
You are perhaps the greatest proof the assertion is accurate, since all you do all day is refer to blacks as "niggers". You don't even hide the fact that you think you are racially superior to them. That's how arrogant and pathetic you are.
Number 2 i have not noticed that any Republicans have sent Jews to a gas chamber and are you ready for this one ?
Firstly, moron, most NAZIS didn't know what was happening to the Jews until WW2 was over.
Secondly, moron, Jews are not the only religious group it is possible for a group of political fascists to persecute. Your very mention of Jews in the first place is an attempt to misdirect attention away from the well-documented Republican hatred of Muslims.
Thirdly, the above is a NAZI PROPAGANDA TECHNIQUE.
Guess who sent Japanese Americans to internment camps
Listen up dummy. If you are a Nazi, which you blatantly are, then listing the bad things other people have done does not stop you from being a Nazi.
Number 2 you are still spun out and until you learn that i laugh at how really stupid you are it will always be blatantly obvious as to what a moron you are LMMFAO !
Just because Hitler hated the left doesn't mean that the left has any authority or reason to call conservatives Nazis. Not only is that slander, but you fail to realize that your idea of the right's tactic is used more often by the left than the right. The problem with most of the left is that their followers only get their info from left-leaning, supposedly progressive news sources and refuse to listen to any other arguments, and this is where you can see the lies begin to shine. The left lies to their followers and basically says that the right is full of racist, bigot homophobes and if you don't wanna be classified as a racist bigot homophobe than you have to support the left.
Just because Hitler hated the left doesn't mean that the left has any authority or reason to call conservatives Nazis.
Of course not, but you are the only person making the suggestion that this is the reason modern American Republicans are compared to Nazis in the first place, and your suggestion is false. The list of similarities between the American Republican Party and the Third Reich is as long as my arm. Hating the left is but a small fraction of it. There is also the militarism, the nationalism, the worship of "the troops", the worship of the American flag, the Orwellian lies and distortions, the identity politics, the isolationism, the weight placed on economy above all other considerations, the hatred for particular religious groups, the propaganda, the racism and/or xenophobia, the argument that all criticism is born of jealousy, the vicious attacks against those seen as enemies of the ideology etc...
Not only is that slander
It isn't slander for two good reasons. Firstly, when it is in written form it is called libel. Secondly, the comparison is completely fair when weighed against the facts. If something is true then it cannot by definition be either slander or libel.
you fail to realize that your idea of the right's tactic is used more often by the left than the right.
But no it isn't, and this is precisely part of the reason why everybody compares you to the Nazis. Your absolute favourite propaganda technique of them all is simply to turn the facts upside down and then use them to attack the left. As I have already pointed out once this evening, attacking the left has no relevance to whether the comparison between American Republicans and Nazis is fair or accurate. You are doing it solely to deflect your own responsibility to answer the charges being made against your own ideology, and hence it is a form of deception.
When you distort and twist every fact thrown your way, then you can hardly complain when people begin comparing you to the Nazis. Indeed, it is clear itself that you are a puppet account of another regular member who for some reason is trying to hide his own identity. On the one hand, you scoff at being compared to the Nazis, but on the other, you attempt to deceive, distort and lie every bit as often as they did.
The left lies to their followers
And here we have the meat and bones of it. You began by admitting that the Nazis hated the left, and yet all you intended to do when you sat down to write your reply was attack the left. Bizarrely, you then claim it is "slander" when you are compared to another group of political fascists who also attacked the left with precisely the same anti-humanist bullshit.
The list of similarities between the American Republican Party and the Third Reich is as long as my arm.
But no, it really isn't. The Nazis hated several groups of people as a part of their party. The American Republican party doesn't hate any groups in particular in their party. You are talking about specific individuals, another tactic the left loves so much.
Secondly, the comparison is completely fair when weighed against the facts.
But again, not it really isn't. The Republican party and the Nazi party are very different, and the Nazis are really more on the left if you place them on the American political spectrum.
and this is precisely part of the reason why everybody compares you to the Nazis.
Strike three, and you're out. The reason not everyone, I'll remind you, but the left likes to call the Republican party Nazis is because they think people should be forced to go against their own religious views in order to cater to an LBGTQ+ individual. And I'll remind you once more that the left uses propaganda more than the right.
and yet all you intend to do when you sat down to write your reply was attack the left.
Actually, believe it or not, I didn't intend to attack the left. I attempted to explain why the left views us, the right, as Nazis.
Bizarrely, you then claim it is "slander" when you are compared to another group of political fascists who also attacked the left with precisely the same anti-humanist bullshit.
I wouldn't say it's bizarre to call it slander, since the definition of the word is "the action or crime of making a false spoken statement damaging to a person's reputation". I'll try to explain it better this time: the political fascists are the alt-Right.
But I listed almost a dozen just off the top of my head.
The Nazis hated several groups of people as a part of their party
Which are the same groups of people that American Republicans hate, with the sole exception of Jews. They hate Liberals, they hate Communists, thy hate socialists, they hate blacks, they hate the disabled, they hate women, and they hate Muslims. In the space of two lines you have both disagreed with me and proved me right. Well done.
The American Republican party doesn't hate any groups in particular in their party
Are you joking? They introduced legislation banning a list of (only) Islamic countries from sending anybody to America. The current Republican president has attacked black athletes on Twitter, and mocked disabled journalists. How is that in any way different from the kind of stuff the Nazis were pulling?
Strike three, and you're out
No FactMachine, you are out. The site owner has banned you permanently from the site and hence you have no legal right to even be trolling here. It is common knowledge that you are a far right wing troll who has more accounts than Bernie Madoff, and you use them to harass and attack other site members who do not appreciate your overt shill tactics.
But I listed almost a dozen just off the top of my head.
Sorry, I should've typed it better. The list of actual similarities between the American Republic Party and the Third Reich isn't as long as your arm.
Which are the same groups of people that American Republicans hate
I'd like actual evidence of the Republic Party specifically stating that they are anti-semitic, homophobic, or racist or something else. We don't hate anyone specifically as a party or institution. You are once again identifying a single person or a couple of people.
They introduced legislation
No. First of all, "they" didn't. Trump did. An executive order is not an act of congress, an executive order is directly from the President. Trump banned several African and Middle Eastern refugees from entering America. Secondly, you're acting as if Trump is the sole member of the American Republican Party, so he represents what we stand for. I'll remind you that it's different from what the Nazis did because we are not shutting down muslim and black businesses, we are not sending muslims and blacks to concentration camps, and we are definitely not gassing muslims, blacks, women, communists, socialists, and disabled people.
The site owner has banned you permanently from the site
No he hasn't. I'm not whoever you say I am, I don't know who Bernie Madoff is, and I don't use my account to harass or attack site members who disagree with me. If you believe I am, then prove it.
So, as you can see, your problem is that genuine Holocaust survivors are making these comparisons. I am afraid that your snide denials and tactical shilling do not outweigh the testimony of Holocaust survivors on the matter of who is or is not a Nazi.
So your defence is simply a fingers-in-ears total blanket denial?
No, not at all. My defence is that you are identifying specific people that believe these things. They do not define the party. They are a minority.
your problem is that genuine Holocaust survivors are making these comparisons
Yes, they are making these comparisons. To TRUMP. Trump does not define the Republican party. They are saying that Trump is acting like a Nazi, which I do not disagree with. I do disagree with you saying that Trump is the defining factor for the Republican party, which he isn't.
No, not at all. My defence is that you are identifying specific people that believe these things
Specific people? You are talking about numerous different Holocaust survivors. If Holocaust survivors don't know what a Nazi is then who do you suppose does?
They do not define the party. They are a minority.
Most of the linked survivors are talking about the leader of your party, but let's forget that for a moment. The claim that Nazis "are a minority" in the Republican Party would not fill me with much comfort even if it were true. If Nazis can exist anywhere within the paradigm of the Republican Party then there is a serious problem with Republican ideology.
Yes, they are making these comparisons. To TRUMP
Who is the leader of the Republican Party and the President of the United States. Had you missed that part?
They are saying that Trump is acting like a Nazi, which I do not disagree with*
This is getting very bizarre. Forgive me, but you seem to be disagreeing, and fairly virulently.
I do disagree with you saying that Trump is the defining factor for the Republican party, which he isn't.
He's the leader of the party you bizarre cretin. It's his actual job to be the defining factor of the Republican Party.
You are talking about numerous different Holocaust survivors.
Specific republicans.
The claim that Nazis "are a minority" in the Republican Party would not fill me with much comfort even if it were true."
Nazis aren't a minority in the Republican party, racists are. And if there are, if there are, any Nazis in the Republican party and you can show me these people then I will protest and fight them with you.
then there is a serious problem with Republican ideology.
No, there is a serious problem with the people who join or affiliate with the Republican party.
Who is the leader of the Republican Party and the President of the United States.
The entire White House is full of Republicans. You can't ignore them.
you seem to be disagreeing
No, I'm not disagreeing with the belief that Trump is acting like a Nazi. I am disagreeing with the belief that the entire Republican party is full of Nazis.
He's the leader of the party
Who says he's the leader of the Republican party? I don't consider him it, and I'm confident that a multitude of others don't consider him it.
P.S. I'd like to know why you continue this debate, if you don't mind saying.
If your contention is No by reason that illegal aliens are criminals, then your reasoning is bogus as there is not Constitutional provision or federal statute prohibiting anyone accused of believed to have committed a crime from protesting.
In fact there is no restriction on a criminal protesting either.
In addition, there is no Constitutional or federal restriction on an alien, lawful or not, from protesting within the jurisdiction of the US.
The US Constitution is quite clear on the right afforded only to US Citizens and rights and privileges afforded to "all persons" under the jurisdiction of the US Constitution.
Canada has factually received thousands of immigrants fleeing from the US borders in an attempt to take advantage of their right to liberty and freedom, regardless of the fact that a perverted tangerine has declared thier rights inert. And every single one of those people is given the ability to live in Canada temporarily under the assumption that they are a law abiding, job seeking, tax paying individuals.
The fact is that just as before in history one group of people want to take advantage of another group and then dispose of them like garbage. Millions of American hired, or employed or paid cash in exchange for work that they knew was being completed by an alien. Every single American knew this and every one took advantage and took advantage again, and now that these people’s parents have raised your houses, raised your children, and propped up your failing republican economy, right wing fascists would seek to eliminate them from the equation. As I see it there is only one viable solution. Any person who knowingly hired or paid in exchange for services, an alien, and where it can be positively proven that these persons had knowledge of the work status of these employees, they shall be removed to their grandfathers country of origin, just as the alien is returned to his grandfathers place of birth.
Since when? We receive them LEGALLY NOT ILLEGALLY!!! PEOPLE HAVE TO ENTER CANADA THROUGH SECURITY AS WELL OTHER WISE WE WILL HAVE TERRORISTS COMING IN! THAT'S THE LAST THING WE WANT! I AM A CANADIAN CITIZEN AND YOU, RICK ZETA, ARE WRONG. I STAND BY MY AMERICAN BRETHREN WHO ARE NOT DEMOCRAT SUPPORTERS. CANADA HAS A CONSTITUTION TOO AND IT ONLY APPLIES TO LEGALLY CERTIFIED CANADIAN CITIZENS!
To legally immigrate to America is a long and complicated affair fraught with bureaucratic red tape, even for highly qualified applicants who have been offered legitimate employment.
The process from start to finish can take up to five years for completion.
But the Latino criminals feel, and have been encouraged to do so by the loony left, that they have a God given right to walk over the border without even being able to speak English or know the first thing about our constitution or history.
These criminals are no more then ECONOMIC IMMIGRANTS who seek only to enrich themselves while doing nothing for their host nation in return.
What was it President Kennedy said;- ''ask not what your country can do for you-ask what you can do for your country''.
The Latino criminal immigrants have no interest in doing anything their adopted country.
IT'S THEY WHO ARE EXPLOITING AMERICA AND CAUSING SERIOUS PROBLEMS FOR U,S., CITIZENS BY KEEPING WAGES ARTIFICIALLY LOW AND THROUGH THEIR DRUG DEALING AND OTHER VIOLENT CRIMES.
That's a long process Antrim. Though, at least people can enter America legally that way. I'm willing to wait if I must. I want a double citizenship between Canada and the U.S. Reason being, I want to explore the historical museums, the comic book stores, the military museums and to vote for Trump as well as participating in protests against democrats.
THE LATINO ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT CRISIS ALONG WITH THE BLACK PROBLEM MUST BE ADDRESSED FORTHWITH.
President Trump has taken his head out of the sand and what he sees isn't a pretty picture.
Looking the reality of decades of irresponsible neglect in the face was never going to be a pleasant experience, but he had the political courage and personal integrity to bite the bullet.
Now all the sanctimonious bleeding hearts are going to make what needs to be done even more difficult.
And what I like about Trump is that he cares about every American, no matter where they are from. So long as they are a legal U.S citizen, you know? But illegal immigrants should be kicked out if they do not have a U.S citizenship registered under his or her name!
Illegal Mexicans do NOT have the right to protest in America... the whole reason we are building the wall ito keep them OUT, and if they start coming over to America and protest, it will just cause a big disruption.
Human nature being what it is would mean that some people would exploit the vulnerability of these criminals.
No one asked them to come here and their illegal presence, along with their criminal activities has been causing serious problems for the law enforcement agencies and causing political and civil strife.
If they feel they are being unfairly exploited and ill-treated then I'm sure I don't have to spell out what the answer is.
Obama with his talk of amnesty has emboldened the criminals to come here in ever increasing numbers.
The problem will have to be addressed urgently and President Trump is trying to do just that.
The days of the OBAMA SOLUTION of playing MR, NICE GUY and kicking the can up the road are over.
I REPEAT, THERE IS NO NATION ON EARTH WHICH WOULD PERMIT THEIR COUNTRY TO BE OVERRUN BY CRIMINALS IN SUCH LARGE, UNCONTROLLABLE NUMBERS.
The original decision to turn a blind eye to these criminals, by successive administrations I must add, has come back to bite the nation on the arse.
TIME TO DRAW A LINE IN THE SAND AND THEN START A HUMANE PROGRAM OF REPATRIATION
No. If they are not certified U.S citizens, obviously they can't cross into the United States of America. The protests are pointless. Remember the Alamo.
I AM A CANADIAN CITIZEN AND A FRIEND OF TRUE AMERICAN PATRIOTS. DO NOT SHOOT ME. I REPEAT, DO NOT SHOOT ME! I AM BATMAN!