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Debate Score:97
Arguments:64
Total Votes:130
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Do illegal Mexicans have the right to protest in America?

Do you think that Mexicans crossing the border illegally have the right to protest for new border policies and protection?

Yes

Side Score: 35
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No

Side Score: 62
4 points

Every living human has a right to protest. But having a right to protest does not mean you are shielded from prosecution or deportation.

Pedophiles have a right to protest, too. And after they do they can be rounded up and put in jail for acts of pedophilia. (But not for the act of protesting, just for the act of pedophilia).

So hey, whomever it is, let them protest. Go ahead, let them.

Side: Yes
outlaw60(15368) Disputed
2 points

Here we have the Boston Progressive speaking some insane nonsense.

But the Boston Progressive never addresses those that are in America illegally being rounded up and put in jail. Wonder why that is ?

Side: No
Grenache(6053) Disputed
2 points

You shoot without aiming. What did I say? Read it again. I said they can protest but they still can be arrested for crimes despite that. Which is addressing illegals, isn't it? You were so ready to come out shooting you just weren't paying any attention.

You're really not very good at trolling.

Side: Yes
1 point

I haven't seen any international agreement stating the right to protest is shared by all humans, and the question is being asked about illegal Mexicans in America. The First Amendment to the Constitution gives the right to freedom of speech, right to religious freedom, right to petition, and the right to protest. But, these rights are given to U.S. citizens, not just everyone that currently lives in the U.S.

As for the pedophile thing, they have the right to protest in America if they are citizens according to the Bill of Rights, and also if they had an IQ of more than 20 then they would commit no blatant acts of pedophilia.

Side: No
Grenache(6053) Clarified
1 point

You're probably technically right about the Constitutional coverage, though the Court could still posit the Founding Fathers wanted the climate of free expression throughout the land, meaning it's more than an individual right.

Side: Yes
2 points

I don't ever see anyone checking documentation to make sure every protester is a legal citizen when the protest starts and until that happens or until they are arrested it will be impossible to know who is protesting as a legal citizen and who is protesting as an illegal immigrant.

They have the right to protest but it does not mean that:

A. They will be taken too seriously

B. They won't be arrested/rounded up and deported once they are found to be here illegally.

So until B happens, sure, they have the right. After B happens? It won't matter.

Side: Yes
outlaw60(15368) Disputed
1 point

Here we have another Progressive the "Mint Jewel" using Progressive talking points to protect the illegal aliens. Now is it Jewel would it be let's say in Cuba which you Progressives love protesting citizens legal or not be arrested and put in jail ?

Referring to A.

Do you think they would not be taken seriously ?

You Poor Little Progressives are insane and your insanity grows daily !

Side: No
Mint_tea(4641) Disputed
1 point

Are you asking if this could be done in Cuba? Moot argument as the debate specifically says America.

How are you going to know if illegals are protesting anything?

Answer, unless, as I said, you check every protester you aren't going to know.

More to the point, I'm not Progressive, so your venom is as misplaced as your sanity. Move along little troll. Move along.

Side: Yes
1 point

Yes, but they will still be arrested and deported because they broke the law by illegally entering the country.

Side: Yes
1 point

Freedom of speech applies to all humans.......................................................................................................

Side: Yes
outlaw60(15368) Clarified
1 point

As does the freedom to own firearms. Both are in the Bill of Rights are they not ?

Side: Yes
-1 points

Hello American:

Yes... The 1st Amendment makes no distinction between citizens and non citizens..

excon

Side: Yes
outlaw60(15368) Disputed
2 points

Hello Excon:

The 2nd Amendment makes no distinction between citizens and non citizens owning guns!

Your statement is very weak Super Stupid !

Side: No
excon(18260) Disputed
1 point

Hello poochy boy:

Didn't you get thrown off this site because you MISUNDERSTOOD the Constitution??? You DID.. And, I see you haven't learned yourself any more..

Bwa, ha ha ha ha..

Now fetch this stick,,

excon

Side: Yes
outlaw60(15368) Disputed
2 points

Hello American:

Yes... The 1st Amendment makes no distinction between citizens and non citizens..

excon

The 1st Amendment:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

No distinction made right Super Super ?

The 2nd Amendment:

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

No distinction made right Super Stupid ?

Side: No
Amarel(5669) Clarified
1 point

They would first have to have the Right to be in the US before they can have the Right to protest in the US. If a group of illegal immigrants is protesting, and ICE rounds them up and deports them, no Constitutional Right has been infringed.

Side: Yes
Rick_Zeta5A(348) Disputed
1 point

Yes and if we could create a Super Special police force we could send them all to one place where they could concentrate on what they’ve done.

These are the arguments that lead us down the path to Fascism, dictatorships, aristocracies, Alex Joneses. Make sure your arguments are good, because they’ll be the ones used to limit your freedom in the future.

Side: Yes
-1 points

If Nazi's have a right to protest in America people from other countries do. Nazi's/white supremists are from a different WORLD!

Side: Yes
outlaw60(15368) Disputed
3 points

Crazy Al nothing less is expected from a Crazy Progressive by your response.

Now Al tell me about the protests of Nazi's / White Supremacist when your"Boy King" Barack Obama was elected twice. Can you point to those protests between 2008 and 2016?

Side: No
Amarel(5669) Disputed
-1 points

People from other countries absolutely have the right to protest here. But they first must have the right to be here. Otherwise their protest may correctly be interrupted by ICE without infringing on anyone’s Rights

Side: No
DebateDrone(6) Disputed
2 points

That is not correct. There is no federal statute denying foreigners the ability to protest in the US.

Side: Yes
10 points

No, by definition ILLEGAL aliens are criminals.

ILLEGAL means;- contrary to, or forbidden by law.

What has happened is the introduction BY STEALTH of the loony left's agenda has us believing that criminals have a right to live and work here without paying taxes, and anyone who expresses opposition to this madness is a NAZI.

The American people have let themselves be sleep walked into this altogether ridiculous scenario without noticing that there are some 11 million criminals in their country.

The pandering to these low-lives has encouraged them to develop a belief that not only should we accept their illegal presence, but ought to permit 10s of 1000s of criminals demonstrate in the towns and cities where they shouldn't be.

Tell me another nation in the world that would tolerate such an invasion of criminals and let them try to dictate how their country is run.

Russia- naa,

China-naa

Japan- naa

Brazil-naa,

Canada-naa,

Australia-naa,

Any Middle Eastern State- naa.

Side: No
Kalamazoo(333) Clarified
3 points

The left have cleverly adopted the propaganda strategy from one of WW2s leading Nazis, Joseph Goebbels.

Your post pretty well reflects one of his quotes.

THE BEST PROPAGANDA IS THAT WHICH AS IT WERE, WORKS INVISIBLY , PENETRATES THE WHOLE OF SOCIETY WITHOUT THE THE PUBLIC HAVING ANY KNOWLEDGE OF THE PROPAGANDISTIC INITIATIVE.

The lunatic left have adopted, and adapted the strategic master plan for subliminal brainwashing of the American public from one of the leading figures who represented what they claim to be their opposing ideology, very successfully I may add.

Pretty God damned sneaky these double-talking liberal lefties.

Side: Yes
NumberOne(422) Clarified
1 point

The left have cleverly adopted the propaganda strategy from one of WW2s leading Nazis, Joseph Goebbels.

Except that's precisely what the right has done, since the Nazis were on the right in the first place. You are literally turning the truth upside down. Hitler hated the left even more than he hated Jews, so you really aren't going to fool anybody who has studied history past the 8th grade.

There is a common tactic at play here from the right, which is a form of lying where you literally turn the truth upside down and fire it back. The technical name for it is Freudian projection.

Side: Yes
DebateDrone(6) Disputed
2 points

If your contention is No by reason that illegal aliens are criminals, then your reasoning is bogus as there is not Constitutional provision or federal statute prohibiting anyone accused of believed to have committed a crime from protesting.

In fact there is no restriction on a criminal protesting either.

In addition, there is no Constitutional or federal restriction on an alien, lawful or not, from protesting within the jurisdiction of the US.

The US Constitution is quite clear on the right afforded only to US Citizens and rights and privileges afforded to "all persons" under the jurisdiction of the US Constitution.

Side: Yes
1 point

Lol, I deffinetly agree , that is so true... ........ America is fine just the way it is

Side: No
Rick_Zeta5A(348) Disputed
0 points

Canada has factually received thousands of immigrants fleeing from the US borders in an attempt to take advantage of their right to liberty and freedom, regardless of the fact that a perverted tangerine has declared thier rights inert. And every single one of those people is given the ability to live in Canada temporarily under the assumption that they are a law abiding, job seeking, tax paying individuals.

The fact is that just as before in history one group of people want to take advantage of another group and then dispose of them like garbage. Millions of American hired, or employed or paid cash in exchange for work that they knew was being completed by an alien. Every single American knew this and every one took advantage and took advantage again, and now that these people’s parents have raised your houses, raised your children, and propped up your failing republican economy, right wing fascists would seek to eliminate them from the equation. As I see it there is only one viable solution. Any person who knowingly hired or paid in exchange for services, an alien, and where it can be positively proven that these persons had knowledge of the work status of these employees, they shall be removed to their grandfathers country of origin, just as the alien is returned to his grandfathers place of birth.

Side: Yes
Dr_Batman(1523) Disputed
1 point

Since when? We receive them LEGALLY NOT ILLEGALLY!!! PEOPLE HAVE TO ENTER CANADA THROUGH SECURITY AS WELL OTHER WISE WE WILL HAVE TERRORISTS COMING IN! THAT'S THE LAST THING WE WANT! I AM A CANADIAN CITIZEN AND YOU, RICK ZETA, ARE WRONG. I STAND BY MY AMERICAN BRETHREN WHO ARE NOT DEMOCRAT SUPPORTERS. CANADA HAS A CONSTITUTION TOO AND IT ONLY APPLIES TO LEGALLY CERTIFIED CANADIAN CITIZENS!

Side: No

No they dont. Constitutional rights only go to citizens. That much is at least made out.

Side: No

Also, those people are citizens. So they do have a right to speak thier opinion.

Side: No
2 points

To legally immigrate to America is a long and complicated affair fraught with bureaucratic red tape, even for highly qualified applicants who have been offered legitimate employment.

The process from start to finish can take up to five years for completion.

But the Latino criminals feel, and have been encouraged to do so by the loony left, that they have a God given right to walk over the border without even being able to speak English or know the first thing about our constitution or history.

These criminals are no more then ECONOMIC IMMIGRANTS who seek only to enrich themselves while doing nothing for their host nation in return.

What was it President Kennedy said;- ''ask not what your country can do for you-ask what you can do for your country''.

The Latino criminal immigrants have no interest in doing anything their adopted country.

IT'S THEY WHO ARE EXPLOITING AMERICA AND CAUSING SERIOUS PROBLEMS FOR U,S., CITIZENS BY KEEPING WAGES ARTIFICIALLY LOW AND THROUGH THEIR DRUG DEALING AND OTHER VIOLENT CRIMES.

Side: No
1 point

That's a long process Antrim. Though, at least people can enter America legally that way. I'm willing to wait if I must. I want a double citizenship between Canada and the U.S. Reason being, I want to explore the historical museums, the comic book stores, the military museums and to vote for Trump as well as participating in protests against democrats.

Side: No
2 points

THE LATINO ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT CRISIS ALONG WITH THE BLACK PROBLEM MUST BE ADDRESSED FORTHWITH.

President Trump has taken his head out of the sand and what he sees isn't a pretty picture.

Looking the reality of decades of irresponsible neglect in the face was never going to be a pleasant experience, but he had the political courage and personal integrity to bite the bullet.

Now all the sanctimonious bleeding hearts are going to make what needs to be done even more difficult.

Side: No
1 point

And what I like about Trump is that he cares about every American, no matter where they are from. So long as they are a legal U.S citizen, you know? But illegal immigrants should be kicked out if they do not have a U.S citizenship registered under his or her name!

Side: No
2 points

Illegal Mexicans do NOT have the right to protest in America... the whole reason we are building the wall ito keep them OUT, and if they start coming over to America and protest, it will just cause a big disruption.

Side: No
1 point

Human nature being what it is would mean that some people would exploit the vulnerability of these criminals.

No one asked them to come here and their illegal presence, along with their criminal activities has been causing serious problems for the law enforcement agencies and causing political and civil strife.

If they feel they are being unfairly exploited and ill-treated then I'm sure I don't have to spell out what the answer is.

Obama with his talk of amnesty has emboldened the criminals to come here in ever increasing numbers.

The problem will have to be addressed urgently and President Trump is trying to do just that.

The days of the OBAMA SOLUTION of playing MR, NICE GUY and kicking the can up the road are over.

I REPEAT, THERE IS NO NATION ON EARTH WHICH WOULD PERMIT THEIR COUNTRY TO BE OVERRUN BY CRIMINALS IN SUCH LARGE, UNCONTROLLABLE NUMBERS.

The original decision to turn a blind eye to these criminals, by successive administrations I must add, has come back to bite the nation on the arse.

TIME TO DRAW A LINE IN THE SAND AND THEN START A HUMANE PROGRAM OF REPATRIATION

Side: No
1 point

No. If they are not certified U.S citizens, obviously they can't cross into the United States of America. The protests are pointless. Remember the Alamo.

I AM A CANADIAN CITIZEN AND A FRIEND OF TRUE AMERICAN PATRIOTS. DO NOT SHOOT ME. I REPEAT, DO NOT SHOOT ME! I AM BATMAN!

Side: No