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Debate Score:45
Arguments:41
Total Votes:47
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Do libertarians and centrists believe the same things?

No.

Side Score: 30
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Yes.

Side Score: 15

No, they don't. Google it.

Side: No.

Hellno set me straight. .

Side: No.
TheBayTore(53) Disputed
1 point

Where is the evidence?

Side: Yes.
1 point

No. For example, most Centrists are absolute abolishionists when it comes to marijuana use (even for medical use), and Libertarians are more open

Side: No.
2 points

Huh? He'll no! Centrists are just idiots who can't decide what they think.

Side: No.
Stickers(1037) Disputed
3 points

Having the intellectually honesty to be able to espouse views from several opposing sides is a lot better than grabbing onto one of the most simple political ideologies ever, in fact the utter simplicity and "uniqueness" of Libertarianism is why it's so popular with teens online.

But, if you want to rely on inaccurate and "made-to-fail" views of any non-Libertarian ideology, then all the power to you.

Side: Yes.
TheBayTore(53) Disputed
1 point

If one side is the just one then the viewpoint of justice should be followed to the hilt, as opposed to assuming that the middle ground is automatically superior.

Side: No.

Okay. I like the Libertarian Party personally. I thought they were the same. Thank you for helping me.

Side: No.
Stickers(1037) Clarified
1 point

They are absolutely not the same, find me 1 Libertarian who is more concerned with reasonable politics and compromise than with ideological purity, and I will find you 10 more who aren't.

Side: No.
TheBayTore(53) Disputed
1 point

In what way did Hellno help you?

Side: Yes.
TheBayTore(53) Disputed
1 point

Back this statement up, please.

Side: Yes.
Atrag(5666) Banned
2 points

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politicalcompass#mediaviewer/File:Politicalchart.svg

Libertarians can be centric but they can also be left or right wing.

Side: No.

Thank you for the link. That is awesome. .

Side: No.
Stickers(1037) Clarified
1 point

Then they probably should not have capitalized the "l", since there is a difference between a "libertarian", and a "Libertarian".

Side: No.
1 point

Libertarians ARE libertarian in nature. That is why they call themselves Libertarian.

Side: Yes.
1 point

no they don't...............................................................................

Side: No.
TheBayTore(53) Disputed
1 point

Where is the evidence?

Side: Yes.
Paradox44(736) Disputed
1 point

You do realize that those who post on this side are in the negative? If you wish to demonstrate that Libertarians and Centrists believe the same thing then show us.

Side: No.
1 point

Not at all.

Centrists are people who decide what they think for themselves based on facts, evidence, and what works (typically). Centrists have the education to think critically, outside the box of partisan thinking.

Libertarians are extreme right wing, that espouse the belief of corporate rule and ineffective local governance (think feudalism re-tooled to a post-industrial society). While on the surface, libertarians may appear centrist or independent, in fact, the idea of removing all regulation on corporations has shown in history to never work well for the people of a country.

So, in my opinion, libertarians are fascists that sell their ideology to the working class as "we'll give you weed (but have no problem with employers trampling on any of you rights because they have the "liberty" to do so).

Side: No.
1 point

On some issues independents believe the same things, and they often believe in the same principals. They probably agree more on principal. Centrists just drift to the middle because they assume (without thinking really) that everyone is a little right.

Side: No.

Libertarianism (Latin: liber, "free") is a political philosophy that upholds liberty as its principal objective. Libertarians seek to maximize autonomy and freedom of choice, emphasizing political freedom, voluntary association and the primacy of individual judgment.- Wikipedia

In politics, centrism or the centre describes a political outlook or specific position that involves acceptance or support of a balance of a degree of social equality and a degree of social hierarchy or social inequality; while opposing political changes which would result in a significant shift of society either strongly to the left or the right.[1] Centre left and centre right politics both involve a general association with centrism combined while leaning somewhat to their respective sides of the spectrum.- Wikipedia

These are two very different definitions.

Side: No.

Thank you. Now I know the truth. .

Side: No.
1 point

Centrists can believe a variety of things but most often are considered to be moderates in most areas. Libertarians are generally considered socially liberal and economically conservative but even this is an over simplification. The problem comes in when you think of the political spectrum as being a straight line, but it is not. Look up certain sites such as political compass or Nolan chart to get a better idea of how it should be arranged.

Supporting Evidence: Political Compass (www.politicalcompass.org)
Side: No.
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