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There is a part of the forest here, where several people go to work and refine their forestry skills, where a woman (by the name of Chelsea I think) had killed herself a year prior. Everyone who goes up there will begin to see her. They'll be visited by her at random times, even in their dreams where typically they laugh and work away together, even if they have never heard of the incident altogether. Some people have better connections to her, and to those she appears much more solid. Some have reported waking up screaming her name. They all feel the sadness that drove her to end her life.
I personally have seen a ghost it was scary as hell and real. Ironically it was a small dog that came through my bedroom door and walked into my closet I watched it while i was in bed and I couldn't even move I was so scared finally when it went into my closet and disappeared is when I shot out of bed and ran out. Yes it was a ghost my belief though is that most ghost are demonic in nature and for some reason they can manifest themselves in ways.
yes. who knows if they are real or not to the rest of the world but they are definitely real to that person who experienced it. that person definitely thinks/knows they saw something whatever that may be.
Why do people assume that being a professor makes one infallible?
I've argued that very position many, many times. Most people don't seem to get it.
However, many view that those who believe in spirits or ghosts tend be religious or gullible in the extreme - yet, some of the most brilliant of men (Arthur Conan Doyle, Carl Gustav Jung, Aldous Huxley, and H.H. Price, professor of logic at Oxford. And, surely, many more.) believe in paranormal phenomena. Were they too gullible?
Perhaps the most common - and most infuriating - accusation made against 'believers' is that they are quite dumb. Statistics prove otherwise
You need to define paranormal phenomena. Are we talking lycanthropy or are we talking psychic energy? I believe in the latter and its ilk.
Any sort of paranormal phenomena. Ghosts, vampires, alien abductions, telekinesis - anything.
I have not made such an accusation.
Yet they are exceptionally common. I knew not whether you would make such a remark, but I have received them so frequently that I thought it best to disprove such a claim before it even came in.
Any sort of paranormal phenomena. Ghosts, vampires, alien abductions, telekinesis - anything.
Ah, then in that case yes. I believe in limited telepathy as well as other forms of psychic energy (I maintain that I can predict which episode of "The Simpsons" I will next see on television).
Yet they are exceptionally common. I knew not whether you would make such a remark, but I have received them so frequently that I thought it best to disprove such a claim before it even came in.
The brain is a very strange, complicated thing. A few enzymes out of whack here, a few impulses out of control there, and you can see ghosts, think you're Jesus, or start babbling uncontrollably.
Seeing as we haven't, you know, caught a ghost in a net, or cage, or magnetic jar, and that the evidence for sightings seems to fit within known phenomena of psychology and basic physics, I don't think ghosts are out there.
Those who believe are no more or less stable than those who disbelieve; thus, mental condition is irrelevant.
Seeing as we haven't, you know, caught a ghost in a net, or cage, or magnetic jar, and that the evidence for sightings seems to fit within known phenomena of psychology
Then why is it that many psychologists have believed in their existence?
I don't think ghosts are out there.
Finally! You are willing to admit that it is your belief that there are no ghosts, but when it comes to God you positively state that he does not exist.
Isn't it odd how that topic is such a tetchy one for you?
Polls reveal that the smarter the person, the more likely he is to believe in paranormal phenomena
Those who believe are no more or less stable than those who disbelieve; thus, mental condition is irrelevant.
You should re-read what I typed. It was explaining that our brains are very susceptible to false positives and erroneous patterns. It's entirely possible, and very likely that all sightings of ghosts are due to our brains being overly sensitive to certain patterns, and misinterpreting certain input leading to hallucinations, and just plain old suggestibility.
Then why is it that many psychologists have believed in their existence?
Why do so many forest rangers believe in bigfoot despite no fossils leading up to him?
Finally! You are willing to admit that it is your belief that there are no ghosts, but when it comes to God you positively state that he does not exist.
Isn't it odd how that topic is such a tetchy one for you?
I think you're grasping for straws in my language. The statement I made for ghosts is functionally identical to those I made against god.
It's entirely possible, and very likely that all sightings of ghosts are due to our brains being overly sensitive to certain patterns
What do you know about ghosts? The ghost tales you've heard are very rare.
The most common 'ghost sighting' is when a person sees the ghost of their loved one the second he dies, even though they didn't know that he was dead.
One of the least common sightings is that of an 'interactive ghost' - one who speaks with people and does stuff. There was a case in Scotland in the 1750s in which a ghost's testimony was used in court. An L-1011 crashed in the 1970s. Pieces of that airplane were salvaged and used in the construction of other planes. The ghosts of the engineers from the crashed plane were seen many times on the airplanes which were made from that L-1011. Even the vice-president of the airline claimed to have seen them. On one airplane, the ghost was seen in the galley fixing a broken oven. The engineer on that flight later insisted that he hadn't fixed it. Another time, a captain and two flight attendants spoke with him and then he vanished before their eyes. They were so upset by this that they cancelled the flight.
Another time a group of passengers saw a man in an Eastern Airlines uniform sitting in a seat next to them. All of a sudden, he disappeared. Quite a few people witnessed that one.
Their names: Don Repo and Bob Loft.
Why do so many forest rangers believe in bigfoot despite no fossils leading up to him?
Because they are not empiricists.
Kinesiologists say that the Bigfoot in the famed video from the 70s is real.
The statement I made for ghosts is functionally identical to those I made against god.
Untrue.
You always say something along the lines of "God does not exist." or, "There is no God." However, you stated that you believe that ghosts do not exist.
Believe is the keyword here. You believe that there are no ghosts, yet you know that there is no God.
What do you know about ghosts? The ghost tales you've heard are very rare.
The most common 'ghost sighting' is when a person sees the ghost of their loved one the second he dies, even though they didn't know that he was dead.
One of the least common sightings is that of an 'interactive ghost' - one who speaks with people and does stuff. There was a case in Scotland in the 1750s in which a ghost's testimony was used in court. An L-1011 crashed in the 1970s. Pieces of that airplane were salvaged and used in the construction of other planes. The ghosts of the engineers from the crashed plane were seen many times on the airplanes which were made from that L-1011. Even the vice-president of the airline claimed to have seen them. On one airplane, the ghost was seen in the galley fixing a broken oven. The engineer on that flight later insisted that he hadn't fixed it. Another time, a captain and two flight attendants spoke with him and then he vanished before their eyes. They were so upset by this that they cancelled the flight.
Another time a group of passengers saw a man in an Eastern Airlines uniform sitting in a seat next to them. All of a sudden, he disappeared. Quite a few people witnessed that one.
Their names: Don Repo and Bob Loft.
All I'm reading from you here are second-hand accounts to phenomena that could easily be exaggerated, and most certainly fall within the categories of hysteria, suggestibility, and imagining things that do not exist.
To put your stories into perspective, it is dangerous to be a woman in a number of African nations because of the belief in witchcraft. Men will accuse women of being witches who cast spells that made their genitals disappear, and if you talk to these people they seem to honestly believe that the magic was real.
Because they are not empiricists.
Kinesiologists say that the Bigfoot in the famed video from the 70s is real.
The Patterson-Gimlin film?
It's a hoax. A human in a suit.
You always say something along the lines of "God does not exist." or, "There is no God." However, you stated that you believe that ghosts do not exist.
Believe is the keyword here. You believe that there are no ghosts, yet you know that there is no God.
I said that I do not think there are any ghosts. In other words, my language implies that my opinion based on my arguments is that ghosts are not real.
I never said that I know god doesn't exist. I said "God doesn't exist." If you read my arguments against god you'd know that there is an implied opinion to that as well.
However, the kicker is that you think an argument from semantics is enough to infer that I care in some way about god. I really don't.
All I'm reading from you here are second-hand accounts to phenomena
So you'll only believe it if you see it, and then even that would be 'iffy'?
most certainly fall within the categories of hysteria, suggestibility, and imagining things that do not exist.
"Most certainly"?
The only reason you say that is because you already disbelieve.
To put your stories into perspective, it is dangerous to be a woman in a number of African nations because of the belief in witchcraft.
Anybody with an open mind who studies witchcraft would not be so quick to claim it's nonexistence.
Men will accuse women of being witches who cast spells that made their genitals disappear, and if you talk to these people they seem to honestly believe that the magic was real.
Yes, I've read about those cases; also, I am quite certain that you have it slightly mixed up. That's beside the point, though. You're too closed minded to even objectively contemplate the idea of sorcery being real.
It's a hoax. A human in a suit.
Funny. I just watched a documentary from Discovery Channel. The expertsdisagree with you.
In other words, my language implies that my opinion based on my arguments is that ghosts are not real.
Yet you admit that it is your opinion! You claim it's the truth when you say that there is not God.
So you'll only believe it if you see it, and then even that would be 'iffy'?
Seen it, believed it, been there done that. Then I learned about how unreliable our experiences are.
"Most certainly"?
The only reason you say that is because you already disbelieve.
No, I say it because it doesn't fit.
There is an objective reality that we have found rules for, models and maths. Atop that reality is our experience of it. If our experiences defy well-established models of reality, I bet on those models being true.
Yes, I've read about those cases; also, I am quite certain that you have it slightly mixed up. That's beside the point, though. You're too closed minded to even objectively contemplate the idea of sorcery being real.
Again, reality begs to differ with our personal accounts of sorcery.
Funny. I just watched a documentary from Discovery Channel. The experts disagree with you.
Their experts disagree with me. I'm still correct however, as can be observed from the stunning lack of bigfoot fossils and corpses.
Yet you admit that it is your opinion! You claim it's the truth when you say that there is not God.
No, I said it's a fact in the colloquial sense of the word. I never claimed to know for certain in the academic sense.
Are you really this slow that you need me to spell these details out for you? Well you did say you felt like you might have around a 140ish IQ, maybe I'm going too fast for you.
When I say "god doesn't exist" this means that "[To the best of our knowledge, and within reasonable certainty, I give you my best judgment that] god doesn't exist.
When I say "ghosts do not exist" I am actually saying "[the lack of ghosts being captured and a lack of sufficient theory supporting them means most likely that] ghosts do not exist."
Both are implied by the language I use in making the arguments that ultimately support my declarative sentence. Context matters.
What would it sound like if I knew there was no god? "I am certain that the truth is that god doesn't exist, this is what we know and it will never change."
What time period was he from? I still don't believe in ghosts. Seeing is believing. i don't believe that when you die your spirit or whatever floats around. Once you are dead you're dead.
I was simply showing you that you cannot always believe your eyes. Unless, of course, such 'hallucinations' are simply glimpses into another realm of sorts?
