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Debate Score:32
Arguments:30
Total Votes:34
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Do so called American freedoms exist more in their minds than in reality ?

Yes

Side Score: 18
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No

Side Score: 14
2 points

You cannot be free unless you are living like a natural human in your natural environment. People in america are stuck in slavery because they are full of sugar and propaganda. They do not know what freedom means because they are only free to be dumb heh heh. Your brain can does not working if you are on the sugar based diet of the amerikan, check out my documentary the NWO diet if you dont disagree.

Side: Yes
NowASaint(1380) Disputed
1 point

You cannot be free unless your sins are paid for, and you cannot pay them off yourself because you are a sinner and will always owe. Jesus, the innocent Lamb of God, paid it all for you and since He owed nothing, death could not hold Him in the ground. If you will admit your offense toward God and believe Christ died for you and is risen bodily from the dead, and ask God the Father in the name of God the Son, Jesus, to save you...He will save you and set you free forever.

Side: No

People in america are stuck in slavery because they are full of sugar and propaganda.

Omg, I love this line. Lol.

Side: Yes
1 point

Finally you let the cat out of the bag and admit that snorting crack causes you to say all the stupid things you say on here.

Side: No
1 point

Rights and values always exist more in peoples' mind than in reality. Freedom, security, privacy, they're all things we aspire to have but if you scratch past the surface you often find compromises or interferences or high risks involved with each of them.

Side: Yes

Not only are American "freedoms" one big, stinking fat lie, but it's pretty much the oldest trick in the book to pacify a crowd by bullshitting it.

Side: Yes
1 point

Uh huh. While I call you a dumbass, have guns in my closet, have plenty of money, and can see a doctor of my choosing in 10 minutes to an hour after walking into the clinic/hospital without an appointment...

Side: No
1 point

Yes, I think so. Take a look at all the freedoms we are giving up in the name of "security". Take a look at all the privacy we give up in the name of convenience. We think we have freedoms in our own home but even that is questionable. We all go about our lives touting American Freedom but we still live in a country where not everyone is free simply because of their gender, the color of their skin, their ancestors nationality....the list goes on.

Side: Yes
1 point

I know. Watching whites, men and Christians being systematically oppressed by the left is brutal...

Side: No
Mint_tea(4641) Disputed
1 point

I'm sure it must be horrible for some of them to not have the right to push their beliefs on others and force obedience on those they deem lesser.

Side: Yes
1 point

There is a place for everyone in America. God bless America, the world's greatest circus nation.

You gotta fight for your right though. If you shrink away and give up, of course you won't have any freedom. You gave that away.

Sometimes you just gotta raise the middle finger way up high. That is what America is really about. The Declaration of Independence and the middle finger.

Side: No
1 point

There is a place for everyone in America.

Except gays, Muslims and Liberals.

Side: Yes
TzarPepe(763) Clarified
1 point

Why would you even say such a thing?

Of course there is a place for these people. We're even working on a special train that comes into town to bring them all to that place.

Side: Yes
1 point

Yet as if by magic, the left in America runs academia, Hollywood, the mainstream press, Broadway, and the culture. What you meant to say was Pakistan, Iran, Saudi Arabia...

If you're gay, Liberal or the wrong sect of Islam, the chances of making it to the end of the day alive in these countries aren't very high...

Side: No
1 point

Hello D:

Nahhh.. It takes work to keep them, and we're doing a pretty good job.. Just look at the love Colin Kaepernik is getting for enjoying one of his rights...

What??? Oh, that's right.. You don't LIKE the way he's enjoying his rights... If it was up to you, we wouldn't have that right...

Why do you hate America so??

excon

Side: No
1 point

What??? Oh, that's right.. You don't LIKE the way he's enjoying his rights...

He has no job now, is going broke, can't afford his millionaire lifestyle anymore, and no team will touch him. I don't think he's enjoying anything. I think he's a miserable dumbass.

Ever heard the saying, "don't bite the hand that feeds you"? Well he did, so that makes him little more than an ass clown who's now unemployed and got exactly what he deserved for not letting a dead dog lie in order to whore himself out for attention. Maybe Walmart will hire him.

Side: Yes
Dermot(5736) Disputed
1 point

Love ? Yeah , from idiots like you who think it's the American way to disrespect the flag ; the guys a scumbag who will end up making a living selling cheap combs on the sidewalk to fellow " patriots " like you

Side: Yes
1 point

Hello again, D:

There's more, of course.. Our rights are under continuous assault... And, YOU'RE one of the people perpetrating that assault.

That may be because you simply don't understand the words in the Constitution.. I dunno why... It's not very long and doesn't use any BIG words..

After all, you think the words, "but upon probable cause" mean the government CAN search people at RANDOM.. Do the Irish speak a different brand of English than Americans do?

excon

Side: No
Dermot(5736) Disputed
1 point

In what way do you make that out ?

I understand the constitution perfectly and never mentioned " but upon probable cause " I mentioned implied consent and American law which obviously is something else you know little about ...... you were pretty good at breaking the law though weren't you ?

The Irish speak a superior brand of English which is why we don't call a Toilet a .... restroom

Side: Yes
excon(18261) Disputed
1 point

I mentioned implied consent and American law

Hello again, D:

Yeah, I've heard your flapping gums about this so called "implied consent".. I've pleaded with you to link us to it innumerable times.. But, you refuse..

So, let's pretend, for a minute, that this "implied consent" is real, and it means the cops CAN pull over ANY driver he chooses at RANDOM and drug test them..

How do you reconcile that with the WORDS in the Constitution??? Does "implied consent" take precedence over "but upon probable cause"?? Seriously.. Do you believe that American drivers GIVE up their Constitutional rights just to DRIVE??

Truly, I wanna know how the right wing brain works..

excon

Side: No
1 point

There's more, of course.. Our rights are under continuous assault...

We know. We've seen your second amendment posts post Las Vegas. We've also seen you applaud ANTIFA for silencing free speech with violence and weapons...

Side: Yes

When it comes to the freedoms of our unborn, the American Left has sacrificed their freedoms for sake of convienence, but your nation is no better.

When it comes to other freedoms, America is probaby the most free nation on the planet.

We love our freedom that was bought with the blood of our service men. This is why we scream out at the idiots who take a knee during our national anthem, even though we understand their freedom to do so.

Side: No
1 point

When it comes to other freedoms, America is probaby the most free nation on the planet.

Yeah, it's just pure coincidence that America has the highest incarceration rate in the ENTIRE WORLD! Five percent of the global population and twenty five percent of the prison population. I personally do not understand how anybody could still be saying the stupid things that you say when the facts are so massively stacked in the other direction.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2015/07/07/yes-u-s-locks-people-up-at-a-higher-rate-than-any-other-country/?utm_term=.f1089d5435f3

Side: Yes