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Do you agree: the AK-47 is overall the best firearm ever made

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2 points

Well i cant say yes wholeheartedly though it is the best gun i know of. I say a history channel special on it. It's really rugged and tough to break or jam. Has great fire rate and power. Can be field stripped and repaired in a very short amount of time. And is clearly the favorite of many countries. The only thing it suffers in is accuracy and its not even that bad.

Plus i love it in MW3 ;)

1 year ago | Side: Yes give examples
NateDebate(66) Disputed
1 point

Haha you love it on Modern Warfare 3 (the game) that's probably why you would think it's the best firearm overall ever made.

In my opinion it most certainly isn't the best in modern warfare (in reality).

They were surprisingly cheap to buy which is why they were so often the weapon of choice in guerrilla war.

So yeah it could have been and I'm sure would have been the favored firearm for those who used it after its design was perfected in the last years of WWII as it has many advantages such as the simple design, its relatively light weight, most importantly for those who use it is that it as you quite rightly said "really rugged and tough to break or jam" which is why it's reliable and very well known up to this day.

Oh and... It looks nice with that lovely smooth woodgrain (in my opinion) hehe.

However I don't think it's the best overall firearm, maybe on your game it is but 'ever made' I can't agree as there have been many firearms since the Kalashnikov.

1 year ago | Side: No give examples
AveSatanas(2944) Clarified
1 point

I never really meant to say it was the greatest firearm EVER. Just that from what i hear its been the most widely used and has a lot of good aspects to it. It beats out the WWII M16 we used for sure.

1 year ago | Side: Yes give examples
HidekiTojo(147) Disputed
1 point

It was used in service in 1949 not in WW2! look it up before posting! Thats called ignorance!

1 year ago | Side: Yes give examples

I say a history channel special on it. It's really rugged and tough to break or jam.

One of my roommates (he's something of a gun-nut) was trying to explain to me why AKs are tough and reliable. He said its basically because they're poorly made and not finely tuned to begin with, so knocking some loose parts around doesn't make the gun any more or less accurate or functional than it was before. Comparatively, a lot of other guns are more precisely built and finely tuned, so any damage to that precise structure and they stop working (although producing guns that work in all conditions (sandstorms, in water, banged up, etc) has been a major focus for the gun manufacturers of the world, recently). You see this in cars, too. Cheap, roughly built cars are oftentimes the most reliable and the easiest to repair; complex, high performance vehicles are more prone to errors and typically more difficult to fix.

And, on a personal note, I dislike the gun in MW3. It's rate of fire is too slow and it's not powerful enough. Give me an FAD or a CM901, instead.

1 year ago | Side: Yes give examples
AveSatanas(2944) Disputed
1 point

Fair enough. I'm no gun expert. Wooooaaahhhh no way man. It's extremely powerful! It freaking two shots everything. Not that ist OP. it's fire rates fine. The FAD has way too little damage. And the cm901 sucks. Way inacurrate and too much kick.

1 year ago | Side: No give examples

An ak-47 can do this, awesome.

Crazy nut guy shooting 300 rounds with it on fire

1 year ago | Side: Yes give examples
1 point

This gun has the loudest gun fire that can kill you in like one shot.

1 year ago | Side: Yes give examples
1 point

Yes, it is the best rifle ever. Other than the FN-FAL, it is the best rifle. It is reliable, easy to use, cheap to manufacture, and the accuracy is decent. In the hands of a trained soldier, it is a deadly weapon. If I had to go into battle, I would go with an AK-47 by my side, not an M16. The cartridge on the M16 is too weak and it is not as reliable.

1 year ago | Side: Yes give examples
Pharmacy(212) Disputed
1 point

you are wrong. the 5.556 is superior to the 7.62, trust me. we are not looking for lethality.

1 year ago | Side: No give examples
Scout143(650) Disputed
1 point

Isn't the design of a rifle for lethality though? It's a weapon. Now I've heard of the tumbling affect on the 5.56 that can kill, which it could. But a 7.62 is a bigger chunk of lead. For example: when I go deer hunting, I like going out with a 308, which is a similar cartridge to the 7.62. One shot and the deer goes down, either in the heart, lungs, or head. Now with a .22 mag, which is similar to the 5.56, is a great round, I love it! But to knock down a deer, I need to shoot it solely in head or heart, which is harder to hit. I want lethality so the deer doesnt feel any pain. If we design a bullet for a rifle to wound someone, it defeats the purpose. A rifle is ment to kill, and it needs an effective bullet to do so.

In your earlier arguement, I noticed that you mentioned, "Wound one takes out 3." That is a great plan, but it is not applicable for the modern day. We are fighting terrorists, who believe that dying in battle is a sure way to go to heaven, I think they would want to fight to the death. I doubt they will take the same care to take back a wounded comrade as much as we do. Now I'm not saying everyone single was does. I do appreciate your view on the SMLE though. Man, it's a hard to beat weapon.

1 year ago | Side: Yes give examples
1 point

The AK series of rifles is truly legendary. The reliability is extreme! Mud can be placed into the action and the gun will still fire. Not too many other firearms can say that. Additionally, the 7.62x39 has good stopping power, and if that's not enough, the AK-47 is relatively cheep to produce.

1 year ago | Side: Yes give examples
2 points

No. It could be argued that it was the best of its time, even though i dont think it was, but its definitely not better than modern guns. If you mean the modernized ak-74 still its not the best. They are very reliable and powerful, but not very accurate. It is arguably he best for practical use in warfare because of its firepower and because it doesn't require much maintenance, but if you mean based solely on performance, i could think of many better guns.

1 year ago | Side: No give examples

And also its very cheap. .

1 year ago | Side: No give examples

AK-47 is not being manufactured since 1954. You are most probably talking about AKM which is not really accurate. AK-74 does not penetrates so deep into concrete but it's much more deadly.

1 year ago | Side: No give examples

No, the AK-47 is not the best firearm ever made. The only reason its used so much is because its cheap and easy to make, when soviet union collapsed these guns flooded the black market, they are unreliable and jam quite often.

In call of duty its good, but in the real world, no.

1 year ago | Side: No give examples
1 point

Finally an argument that makes sense. AK variations are still used by Russia but they are better than the original like the AN94, AKS74u, AK103 bullpop.The Call of Duty producers are ignorant.

1 year ago | Side: No give examples

The AK 47 was the only gun that the Soviet Union could produce because if its inability to calculate. Don't forget it was very inaccurate.

1 year ago | Side: No give examples

That gun is the best gun ever made if you're an African warlord trying to arm your militia of stunna-shade-wearing 20-somethings and children as quickly and cheaply as possible.

If you care about anything other that the simplicity of procuring the rifle and the cost (i.e. accuracy, reliability, range, compatibility, etc) you'd be better off going with any number of firearms other than the ak-47. Try something designed and made recently.

1 year ago | Side: No give examples
1 point

I am a bit of a gun nut, I have 7 firearms (.243 win., .30-06 sporterized mauser, .22 revolver, 2 9mm's, .380 and a SKS) in total and go to the range quite often. I don't not own an AK but i have shot plenty of them, my SKS shoots the same 7.62x39 round. Honestly, I don't care too much for the 7.62, it is capable of putting down thunderous bursts of fire power, but is largely in accurate, has too much of a barrel climb and is rather slow. the British .303 is a beauty tho. the best firearm ever manufactured in my opinion is the Lee Enfield SMLE Mk.III, its looks gorgeous and shoots like a cadillac. The bolt of this baby is just sooooooo smooth.

1 year ago | Side: No give examples
1 point

The 5.56 or .223 is a superior to the 7.62 in effectiveness and function. People say, "the 5.56 just isn't strong enough", yea, it's kindda small, but look at all the powder behind it. don't be decieved by its size, its velocity is so high when fired that a lead round will break up upon impact and travel throughout your body. The 5.56 has been considered by many as an inhummane weapon of war, due to the damage it caused. one could be shoot in the gut and the main mass of the bullet would exit their skull, it just travels so fast (only wit lead bullets, tho).

This being said, I have to mention that all of this only applies to 5.56 lead rounds, which we do not use anymore. We us the FMJ or the full metal jacket, because contrary to popular belief, the aim is no longer to kill in a fire fight, the goal is to maim, with a full metal jacket the projectile makes a (mostly) clean entry and exit. Why is our aim only to maim, you ask? The logic is simple, kill one man and you take one man out of the fight, injure one man and 2 of his buddies have to carry him out of the fight, so u just took out 3. It is more of an advantage if u have the guy on the otherside screaming and crying and praying at the same time..... it tends to destroy the will to fight any longer.

1 year ago | Side: No give examples
1 point

No, I'd say nuclear weaponry (power of the sun) is the most tragically beautiful firearm (wink wink), ever created.

And it shines like a mutha fucka.

1 year ago | Side: No give examples

The AK-47, to my knowledge, is a weapon of convenience. It does not jam easily and can survive every planetary environment and work, save being totally submerged for a long period of time.

Does this alone make it the best firearm ever made? I don't really think so. It can't necessarily hold up short-term wise against other assault rifles, even though the AK-47 is a good weapon in the long-term.

If it truly was the best, it would be as durable as it is without sacrificing damage, accuracy, user correction, etc. But I haven't seen any evidence that it's numerically better in these areas then every other rifle.

1 year ago | Side: No give examples
1 point

Its a good gun, but ti has a lot of kick. After a while of being around it looses it acuracy. It will probably never completely break down but it will slowly get looser.

1 year ago | Side: No give examples


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