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Do you feel like academia tried to brainwash you?

they did

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they did it right

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3 points

To a degree. There is a definite liberal bias (in my experience) at my high-school (I don't know about University yet). The agenda is pushed and it seems to be 'unquestionable.' The thing is, they've failed to brainwash anybody I know, everybody sees through the bullshit, so it's not really much of a problem. If anything, the people behind this agenda are now alienating almost all of the students I know. Lots of right wing media that I am familiar with is correct to point out the 'brainwashing' but they over-exaggerate its dangers. Many 'millennials' might be screwed up, but it seems the next generation is wising up. I wouldn't worry too much.

It is wrong to brainwash yes, but I don't think it is overly successful anymore. I could be wrong though.

Side: they did
1 point

Some faculty did try. There was a Cuban defector who was out to rattle the cage of any red blooded American. There was a sociology professor so devoted to the Conflict (communist) perspective that you couldn't write a paper against it without getting docked in grading. There were various religious types who wanted to push their brand of religion.

And yet, despite everything I listed, I am not brainwashed.

And WHY am I not brainwashed? Because I am an individual and already had my wits about me before I went to college. Any folks who fall for teachers shoving them in one particular direction really only have themselves to blame at that point. They're legally adults. They can vote, they can go die for their country as part of the army, they can buy property and marry and have kids. If they're coming out brainwashed then they failed to grow up. Period.

And, by the way, there isn't just liberal brainwashing. There is plenty of conservative brainwashing out there, too. That same school had faculty who were blatantly sexist, covertly racist, and pro censorship. And it was in a state heavily Republican so most of the people I listed on either side were actually Republican. Not kidding.

Basically, to become a professor there must be a topic which makes you want to "profess." The vast majority of faculty wherever you go have a lot of their own beliefs and values inserted to what they teach. And since they're the ones grading you it's fair to say quite a lot of them use their position to brainwash.

Side: they did
outlaw60(8867) Clarified
2 points

http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/education/article113811743.html

The Leftist SnowFlakes in Academia are not individuals but a group of scared little children

Side: they did
FromWithin(5082) Disputed
2 points

The ultra Liberl speaks again.......

Funny how your examples were Communists and religious types.... ROFLOL

No Liberals which is the vast majority of indoctrination on our children.

ROFLOL, you say as always how the other side is just as bad. FOOL LIAR! The Right is not trying to indoctrinate our children in schools! We want them to learn the basics! How to read and write, understand math and science.

You say..... "There is plenty of conservative brainwashing out there, too. That same school had faculty who were blatantly sexist, covertly racist, and pro censorship. And it was in a state heavily Republican so most of the people I listed on either side were actually Republican. Not kidding."

So you the fool are equating Conservatives as sexist, racist, pro censorship (while your ilk censor symbols of our Christian heritage).

Like Hillary, you are the intolerant Left who judge and ridicule the Right as being Deplorablle, irredeemable, and all your steriotipical lies.

You are the very teachers this debate is speaking about. I feel so sorry for any student you try to indoctrinate.

Side: they did it right
Grenache(4838) Disputed
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You weren't paying attention. I gave examples from both sides, as well as the fact almost everyone in that state is Republican including most of the faculty.

All you ever bring is the universal label of liberal for everyone who disagrees with you and the meaningless smears that they're fools and liars. And a quick jab at Hillary. Get some new material.

Side: they did
1 point

I will start off by saying that I chose to enter a sociology class merely to defy my parents' wishes for me not to. They certainly did attempt to brainwash me. They articulated an aggregate of intersecting theories, such as the patriarchy (b.s.), intersectionality (b.s.), heteropatriarchy (some call it business), and white privilege (what about asian privilege). My teacher even asserted that it is impossible to be racist against white people by making the semantic argument that presupposes the sociological definition to be the correct one. It's not. If implemented as law, the sociological definition of racism would possess inherent injustice due to the resulting double standard. She even posited that the debunked, wage gap is true. I could create a list.

Side: they did
3 points

No. I was never told we needed safe spaces and I was never told there were more than two genders by any professor. Instead I was given education and an opportunity to think for myself. It's typically the students who are pushing this BS "I need a safe space and if you don't give it to me you are offending me" nonsense.

Side: they did it right
outlaw60(8867) Clarified
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Come on Jewel all Academia need Safe Spaces it is you just cannot address what is reality !

https://www.thecollegefix.com/post/29876/

Universities across the nation on Wednesday offered safe spaces to students to help them process the anger and grief they felt as a result of Republican Donald Trump winning the presidential election.

Administrators, multicultural centers, LGBTQ directors, diversity gurus and other campus leaders emailed students and posted information on Facebook telling them they understood their “pain,” and advised them on where they could find safe spaces on campus to “process” the election results or obtain counseling.

Take the University of Michigan Flint, which sent three separate emails in the span of just five hours on Wednesday to console the campus community about the election and let students know where to find counseling and other resources. Students there also planned a “vigil,” according to one email.

“In more than 20 years at UM-Flint, I am sure that these support services were never provided after previous elections, and certainly not in 2008 or 2012,” according to economics Professor Mark Perry. “And if the outcome of the election had been different, I am confident that either no emails would have been sent out to the campus community, or they would have been announcements for post-election campus celebrations, rather than an announcement for a campus ‘vigil.'”

So why do the Little Leftist need Safe Spaces there Jewel ?

Side: they did
Mint_tea(1979) Clarified
1 point

You're the one telling me that all Academia needs Safe Spaces so why don't you tell me why?

Side: they did
1 point

Maybe you should move out of your mum's basement and try it? Education is not so scary.

Side: they did it right
1 point

I'm 46 years old, Mom is long since passed away, I got my education the old fashioned way...

https://www.army.mil/e2/c/images/2012/12/31/277275/original.jpg

and the United States military wasn't trying to brainwash us into believing there are 50 genders, that everyone is a Nazi, and that we need "safe spaces" in order to survive. Instead, they introduced us to real life, which is anything but safe.

Side: they did
Atrag(5019) Disputed
1 point

You are not 46 unless you were hit in the head when you were younger... I guess that makes sense if you really were in the army.

and the United States military wasn't trying to brainwash us into believing there are 50 genders, that everyone is a Nazi, and that we need "safe spaces" in order to survive.

Right. You believe everyone that is left wing is dangerous, every university and school is dangerous, and that 99% of scientists are trying to scam you. You are pretty fucked up arent you? Poor manchild.

Instead, they introduced us to real life, which is anything but safe.

The army is not "real life". Many soldiers have great problems reintegrating into normal society for that reason.

Side: they did it right
1 point

Hello bront:

Nahh.. In my civics class, they had us read our founding documents, and let us come to our own conclusion.. Naturally, I became a lib.. It wasn't hard. The Declaration is a very liberal document.. I don't think right wingers BELIEVE we're all created equal.. Then, of course, we have the liberal Bill of Rights.. I don't think right wingers BELIEVE criminals should have rights or be treated humanly.

So, if you understand what this country is founded on, you couldn't help but being a liberal..

excon

Side: they did it right
1 point

I don't think right wingers BELIEVE we're all created equal

Of course we do. We aren't the ones demanding we bring up some brown people to do our laundry and pick our lettuce.

Side: they did
1 point

The Declaration is a very liberal document

Oh? So why was America rampant with slavery when it was written?

Side: they did
1 point

Then, of course, we have the liberal Bill of Rights

Which doesn't mention or protect illegal aliens, terrorists, aliens from outer space, animals, plants, men in little girls' rooms, Prophet Muhammed...

Side: they did
1 point

So, if you understand what this country is founded on, you couldn't help but being a liberal

Slavery, stealing land from the Native Americans, stealing land from Mexico who stole it from the Natives, and denouncing British rule?

Side: they did
1 point

I don't think right wingers BELIEVE criminals should have rights or be treated humanly

Depends on the crime. What do you think is the proper punishment for people who do the following things.

-Rape children

-Burn children alive

-Shoot up girls' schools with military grade weapons

-Set off bombs at marathons

-Destroy skyscrapers killing 3,000+ people

-Shoot up gay nightclubs

-Shoot up theatres

-Set off bombs at a concert for kids

-Drown people in cages

-Take sex slaves

-Bomb trains used for public transit

-Bomb airports

-Pretend to be refugees in order to do all of the above

Side: they did