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Christians are delusional Christianity rocks!
Debate Score:116
Arguments:104
Total Votes:136
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 Christianity rocks! (46)

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Do you have to be delusional to be a fundamentalist Christian?

Do you believe that an invisible giant-in-the-sky God is ruling over us?

 

Do you believe that the same God that created the universe containing billions of galaxies cares about your sex life?

Christians are delusional

Side Score: 64
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Christianity rocks!

Side Score: 52

Do you have to be delusional to believe that an all knowing being with a fully developed and over inflated ego popped out of nothing and created a giant zoo? Do you have to be delusional to believe that a perfect god would create such a failure of a species that he has to drown every single one of them except one man and his family and that man happened to be a 300 year old alchoholic who manages to herd two of every species on to a giant boat? Do you have to be delusional to believe that God and God's son are the same person? Even moderate christians are insane.

Side: Christians are delusional
1 point

Since gods do not exist, anyone who believes in one is deluded but I suspect there are many Christians who are willingly self-deluded and who find the proper sentiments to justify their delusion.

Side: Christians are delusional
Chinaman(307) Disputed
1 point

Plenty of churches and mosques in America are they all deluded to justify their delusion.

Side: Christianity rocks!
FactMachine(250) Disputed
1 point

Yes they are. But to be fair some of them are run by lying sacks of nasal mucus who know they are full of it and just trying to make money.

Side: Christians are delusional
Rusticus(91) Disputed
1 point

@Chinaman -

Your comments lead me to believe that you're unaware that Muslims and Christians worship the same God.

But they do.

Side: Christians are delusional

Absolutely yes. Christianity is every bit as delusional, insane and cruel as the other two major monotheistic religions. Except of course if you ask a Christian.

Side: Christians are delusional
1 point

People are entitled to believe what they want to believe and live their life according to it. So I am not going to say belief in God himself is delusional. But here is what is...

Rejecting any modern scientific obervations which happen to conflict with tall tales told by Bronze Age civilizations is absurd. Knowledge of the world has advanced so much further. The rejection is like refusing to believe what a college professor tries to teach you because your babysitter said something else when you were four years old.

Rejecting the equal freedoms of your civil rights based society because despite all that you think your belief comes first over anyone else's.

Witnessing the hokum pokum of Christian leaders who in some cases are acting no different than your classic con men but you keep drinking their Koolaid anyway. Sex abuse, fraud and theft, lives of luxury, cheap theatrics, exposes of hidden homosexual encounters, and on and on. They do the things you insist are wrong with the non-Christian segments of society yet you give them a pass.

Elevation of a few Bible verses as more important to live your lives by than all the rest. This is a serious one. You can't harp on the inviolability of the whole document and then pick the half dozen verses from which something like Evangelicalism gets it's mandates from and not be guilty of delusion. That's like picking a half dozen sentences from the US Constitution and slavenly building your lives around those while saying the people still talking about all the other content aren't really US citizens.

Side: Christians are delusional
FromWithin(5133) Disputed
1 point

It's kind of like the Left and their fear of any mention of moral values. You would think that an intelligent person today (after so much evidence of the negative effects of immoral and irresponsible behavior on our lives) would recognise the importance of lifting up simple moral values that shape our entire quality of life.

These people you judge as not recognising scientific observations (which I do recognise)?

Look in the mirror! You refuse to recognise the most simple basic tenents of moral values lifted up in the Christian faith.

The bigotted Left does cartwheels to censor any and all mention of moral values from our public lives. It's as if you hate our children and say nothing while their lives are ruined from the millions of broken homes created after the lie of separation of Church and State.

People like you bury your heads and fear the undeniable proof that the moral values lifted up in our Christian faith was good for our children, our lives, and our nation. You would rather accept a welfare State of Government dependent people living in misery, rather than admitting the overwhelming evidence of the benefits of moral values in our lives.

You live in fear of anyone seeing the values to the many truths from the Bible because you are lost in your bigotted hatred towards our Christian faith and it's effect on our world. Kind of like what you say people do denying scientific evidence.

You are doing the EXACT things you just judged Christians as doing. You bury your head to the knowledge of the many good things drawn from our Christian heritage, no matter the damage caused from separating and censoring such wonderful truths.

Side: Christianity rocks!
Rusticus(91) Disputed
2 points

@FromWithin -

When you make the ridiculous assertion that only Christians like yourself are moral and the rest of us (the vast majority of the world's population) are amoral you immediately lose the argument because there is ZERO evidence to support your claim. Of course if you HAVE any evidence please by all means do produce it. (I won't hold my breath)

As for having any fear of mentioning moral values I have no fear of that at all so that assertion is ridiculous as well. The difference between me and you is that you constantly assert to be morally superior while I don't feel the need to do likewise which begs the question; why DO you feel the need to claim moral superiority?

Oh wait, could it be that what you pretend to be "moral values" are actually your own set of twisted beliefs that you seek to impose on everyone else? Why of course it is, and that's one of the great differences between a sanctimonious hypocrite such as yourself and sane persons.

As for your damming the separation of church and state as "lie" you give yourself away as someone who knows nothing about this country or its Constitution. The founders of our nation were well aware of the perils of religious power and involvement in government and sought to insure that their new nation would be protected from people of your ilk. Again, if you have one iota of evidence to dispute my claim, feel free to produce it, until then SHOVE IT!

Side: Christians are delusional
Grenache(5078) Disputed
1 point

The left believes in moral values, too, they just don't believe that comes exclusively from the Bible. And they're right. Nor do they believe archaic objections to everyting from women's rights to homosexuality is a mandate for modern society. When the left defends privacy and freedom and the right to coexist they're defending values. It's just you define their applications of those values as being sins.

I know you don't agree with me.

Utlimately though you don't agree with me because you are an Evangelical who thinks your whole life and everyone else's in the world has to be fixated on what Evangelicals believe. And ultimately I and the non-conservatives don't agree with you because we know that you're trying to impose your Evangelism over our lives and governments.

Lastly, you say we bury our heads, but the way I see it is we stand up to you sir pretty much every time you come in here trying to scare us with something. Our heads are not buried, though you actually wish they were.

Side: Christians are delusional

You have to be delusional to think there are 48 genders and that the Quran is a book about peace, yes.

Side: Christianity rocks!
1 point

You have to be delusional to think there are 48 genders and that the Quran is a book about peace, yes.

You have to be delusional to criticise the Quran when you simultaneously believe the Bible is the literal word of God. And what is this bs about 48 genders? Another of your idiotic straw man arguments I'd wager.

Side: Christians are delusional
1 point

You have to be delusional to think religion is delusional and then stick your hand down Muhammed's pants assuming you won't be raped and decapitated.

Side: Christianity rocks!
1 point

And what is this bs about 48 genders?

Oh? I thought you were a scholar of the Liberal Bible. Maybe you guys should have a meeting and get on the same page. Or perhaps you could look it up on google like a normal human being rather than a googleless chimp. Oh wait...

Side: Christianity rocks!
AveSatanas(4172) Disputed
1 point

nice dodge, pussy. Answer the question .

Side: Christians are delusional
2 points

You didn't ask a question. Are your puppet accounts confused again quantum?

Side: Christianity rocks!
FactMachine(250) Disputed
0 points

Your argument is irrelevant because SJW bullshit has nothing to do with christianity. Why don't you start a "Do atheism and liberal insanity have any correlation" debate and we can discuss whether or not I believe in 456546757567868 genders or if I'm tolerant of ISIS and jihadi refugees just because I don't believe in your primitive musings of malarkey.

Side: Christians are delusional
2 points

Your argument is irrelevant because SJW bullshit has nothing to do with christianity

I know. That's why we have no problem figuring out which bathroom is ours.

Side: Christianity rocks!
1 point

Do you have to be delusional to be a fundamentalist Muslim in America ?

Side: Christianity rocks!
FactMachine(250) Disputed
1 point

Yes you do. Perhaps even more delusional than a christian.

Side: Christians are delusional

Billions of galaxies, and the Left STILL believes in mystical evolutionary living cells (still having no clue of how they maggically popped to life).

Yet with BILLIONS OF GALAXIES, these same evofundies have not found any other life. Have not found one intelligent radio signal.

THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO BELIEVE IF EVOLUTION CREATED LIFE AS THEY SAY IT DID HERE.

Side: Christianity rocks!
Cuaroc(8044) Disputed
1 point

Left STILL believes in mystical evolutionary living cells

Which is somehow less believable then a all powerful being that cant be seen or observed always existing?

Side: Christians are delusional
Chinaman(307) Disputed
1 point

Muslims at the Pentagon Brace for Trump Administration

For Muslims inside the national-security apparatus whom the Obama administration welcomed with open arms, fear of Trump is already pervasive.

Muslims believe in Ol'Mo and were welcomed.

Side: Christianity rocks!
FromWithin(5133) Disputed
1 point

It's sad you keep repeating the same mindless rhetoric. I understand it is hard for you to grasp what we are saying here, but for one last time.......

I have no problem with people who believe in evolution. I have a huge problem with bigotted idiots constantly atacking Christians for their beliefs. This is when I bring up the evolutionary beliefs from the very people attacking Christian beliefs.

Yes, no matter what we believe, it is an amazing thing trying to grasp the beginning of life, of God, etc.

No one has all the answers, and we all have differing ways of seeing our beginnings, but when insecure bigotted losers spew their anti Christian rhetoric, I will speak to the unbelievability of their beliefs as well.

I say believe what you want, and allow other's the same without insulting and constantly attacking them.

Side: Christianity rocks!
excon(3621) Disputed
1 point

Have not found one intelligent radio signal. THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO BELIEVE IF EVOLUTION CREATED LIFE AS THEY SAY IT DID HERE.

Hello From:

Let's assume that intelligent life in the universe started, progressed and developed exactly like we did, and in the same time frame we did.. Because of the distances involved, and the speed of light, NONE of those societies would KNOW that we existed, and we clearly do.. That's because our radio signals would have taken MILLIONS of years to reach them, and MILLIONS of years for their signals to have reached us.

And, I'll bet there's a guy on THOSE planets making the same ridiculous argument you are.. He probably learned HIS science in church too..

excon

Side: Christians are delusional
1 point

Hello R:

Delusional means nuts.. Christians aren't nuts.. They're PROGRAMED..

excon

Side: Christianity rocks!
Rusticus(91) Disputed
2 points

@excon -

When you deny, or you can't accept reality for what it is and invent your own, you're delusional. Nuts.

Side: Christians are delusional
Eloy(150) Clarified
1 point

@Rusticus.

I do not believe this happens with most, if not all, Christians because they have inherited the Christian religion which has been in existence for many centuries rather than it being a case of "invent your own". Christians nowadays have not invented their religion or the god (or three gods) which is/are the object(s) of their worship. They are, by and large, the same denomination even as their parents and commonly as their community. It is rather a case of the religion which is delusional (if such can be the case) rather than those who have been brainwashed into believing in the supernatural.

Side: Christians are delusional
1 point

Do you believe that an invisible giant-in-the-sky God is ruling over us?

I guess it's going to be who you ask. I do believe in God, I also believe he gave us a set of guidelines to live our life with but I also think he gave us the freedom to do as we wish with the understanding that we will be judged when our life on this planet ends. So in terms of ruling, it's more of a Parent/Child relationship than a Dictator/Subject relationship. But that's my take on it, I'm sure there are others who think differently.

Do you believe that the same God that created the universe containing billions of galaxies cares about your sex life?

Again, this is my take on it. Only in that your sex life is with willing participants. Perhaps I'm imposing my personal opinion on the matter but I think He would care far less about two homosexuals engaging in a loving and intimate relationship, as opposed to someone raping a child.

Side: Christianity rocks!
-1 points

The God of Christianity is The Supreme and Ultimate Reality.

The Word of God is what caused everything to come into being. Everything that exists does so by The Word of God.

As everything was created from The Word of God, God manifests into all of Creation in the flesh through The Word.

God Almighty, The Ultimate Reality is salvation. That is the faith. To love God sincerely and with faith through The Word, that is with us in the flesh.

We do not live off of bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.

Through the body of The Word, we are all united together and one members of The Universal Church, which is The Word of God. God is sovereign over all things, as God's omnipresence has manifested into the world through The Word of God made flesh. As all things come about because of the word of God, God is omnipotent, behind every influence. As all things came about by The Word of God, God is Omniscient, knowing all. As God is what determines The Truth, God is The Righteous Judge.

There is only One True God, and that God is The Supreme and Ultimate Reality. There is no other god that can even compare. Christianity is about having a good relationship with God, to worship in spirit and in truth.

We have been redeemed back to God, The Ultimate Reality, through the sanctifying grace of God's Word, which we were created through. God is nearer than our breath! If we love God, we must love others, as to love others is to love God. This is done through charity out of a pure heart, of good conscience, and of faith unfeigned. We strive for this because this is how God has been to us, who are clearly mortal beings. Earthen vessels may die, but The Word of God is eternal, and so we have been saved through our Oneness with The Word of God, who is God in The Flesh.

It is The Holy Spirit, The Spirit of Truth, that ties it all together.

Side: Christianity rocks!
FactMachine(250) Disputed
1 point

You believe that words have bodies...what more is there to say?

Side: Christians are delusional
TzarPepe(129) Disputed
1 point

A "body" is defined by merriam-webster as...

"the main, central, or principal part"

What is "the main, central, or principal part"?

A "part" is defined by merriam-webster as...

"an essential portion or integral element "

So what is the main, central, and principal element of everything that is integral?

The Word of God is The Body.

Side: Christianity rocks!
-1 points

You believe a magical nothing manifested reality from its magical nothingness? What more is there to say? Do you believe in unicorns? Sure ya do. You probably think the winged monkeys in the Wizard of Oz are real too eh Nonfact Machine? How's Nothing, your skydaddy, doing these days?

Side: Christianity rocks!
Rusticus(91) Disputed
1 point

@TzarPepe -

You make a lot of wild claims preacher, got any proof?

Let me know when you find some.

I won't be holding my breath.

Side: Christians are delusional
TzarPepe(129) Disputed
1 point

What do you consider to be proof of The Supreme and Ultimate Reality? The proof is all around to me.What would convince you?

Side: Christianity rocks!